As a NorCal guy some of the Mynocks are really cool, some however are getting more and more full of themselves. Grade 1 ego trip by TO and Grade 1 overreaction by you. Everyone loses. Too bad.

Care to elaborate? Because it seems you threw nonsensical sentences about TO lightly. Meanwhile said TO did all the things right, forcing people to follow game rules (as it should be).

For everyone going on about how important it is to follow the rules, and how the TO was in the right...

I hope you're all using those critical hit tokens in your games. If not, I hope that you all retro-actively disqualify yourselves and return any prizes you may have earned.

I think a more apt comparison would be starting a fight with a TO over how you can't bear to put crit tokens next to your ships.

You make an interesting point about critical hit tokens. The rules (below) do not suggest for a moment that critical hit tokens are optional, but these, being nothing more than a mandated reminder, are entirely redundant, and will not change the outcome of the game if they are not used. (which is not to suggest that it's okay not to use them - but rather that breaking this rule (unlike the other) has no actual consequences to the round, or the Swiss ranking.

When a ship is dealt a faceup Damage card, assign a critical hit token to that ship as a reminder of the card’s ongoing effect. That token is discarded if the card is discarded or flipped facedown.

I would say it makes an apt comparison with regards to "rule breaking" but not so apt a comparison with regards to "game outcome".

That said; I've played games where both me and my opponent have forgotten a crit effect either me or they have had that MAY have affected the game outcome. Console Fire, for example.

Overreaction but the guy was an a hole

That said; I've played games where both me and my opponent have forgotten a crit effect either me or they have had that MAY have affected the game outcome.

Which is why you really should use them.

But the problem with Chucknuckle's comment is that he's comparing apples to pineapples and trying to claim they're both the same thing.

The issue with the OP isn't the fact that he didn't follow the rules, the real issue is that he refused to do what the TO told him to do. If you're playing at a tournament you have two options in terms of the game X-Wing, you do what the TO tells you to do or you risk being expelled from the event.

So for Chucknuckle's post to be at all on point he would have to claim that the rest of us don't use critical tokens and then refuse to use them when the TO tells us to, and then have a hissy fit about it. But that isn't the case so his point is frankly pointless.

Using a critical token in of itself has no impact on the game it is purely a memory device, drawing extra cards on the other hand can actually have an impact.

But again neither of those are the real point, the real point is the way the OP reacted to the TO.

I'm getting deja vu reading the comments.

Might have to break the repetitive monotony soon.

Let me know when it's time

For everyone going on about how important it is to follow the rules, and how the TO was in the right...

I hope you're all using those critical hit tokens in your games. If not, I hope that you all retro-actively disqualify yourselves and return any prizes you may have earned.

I think a more apt comparison would be starting a fight with a TO over how you can't bear to put crit tokens next to your ships.

I absolutely hate it when opponents don't use crit tokens. Funny how after THEY'RE always the ones to forget some crit to their benefit. Or worse, I forget one of their crits to my detriment.

It changes the game drastically. They are NOT OPTIONAL.

That said; I've played games where both me and my opponent have forgotten a crit effect either me or they have had that MAY have affected the game outcome.

Which is why you really should use them.

But the problem with Chucknuckle's comment is that he's comparing apples to pineapples and trying to claim they're both the same thing.

The issue with the OP isn't the fact that he didn't follow the rules, the real issue is that he refused to do what the TO told him to do. If you're playing at a tournament you have two options in terms of the game X-Wing, you do what the TO tells you to do or you risk being expelled from the event.

So for Chucknuckle's post to be at all on point he would have to claim that the rest of us don't use critical tokens and then refuse to use them when the TO tells us to, and then have a hissy fit about it. But that isn't the case so his point is frankly pointless.

Using a critical token in of itself has no impact on the game it is purely a memory device, drawing extra cards on the other hand can actually have an impact.

But again neither of those are the real point, the real point is the way the OP reacted to the TO.

Totally agree, as stated in my previous post; getting pissy with the TO for a rules infringement is a bad move. TO'd events myself and never had to deal with someone so willing to throw their toys out the pram.

I'm getting deja vu reading the comments.

Might have to break the repetitive monotony soon.

Let me know when it's time

It is getting a tad repetitive. Congo time?

CONGA TIME!

do do do

come on and join the conga

Scrolling through that very fast is a disturbing experience...

I'll make a new conga with this next time.

The Wookie is starting to lose it's appeal

Conga's in general lose their appeal the second time they are used (and thereafter) in the same conversation. It's like a medicine that is good only in small doses.

I couldn't find a Gloria Estefan gif worth using.

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h*

Henry's

Horrendous

Haberdashery

Hollering

Hilarious

Hysterical

Hubbub

Hourly

Miami Sound Machine was just mentioned in this thread. Lock it up folks.

Bacon.

Bacon.

With sausage, hashbrowns, eggs, fried bread and ketchup

For everyone going on about how important it is to follow the rules, and how the TO was in the right...

I hope you're all using those critical hit tokens in your games. If not, I hope that you all retro-actively disqualify yourselves and return any prizes you may have earned.

I think a more apt comparison would be starting a fight with a TO over how you can't bear to put crit tokens next to your ships.

I absolutely hate it when opponents don't use crit tokens. Funny how after THEY'RE always the ones to forget some crit to their benefit. Or worse, I forget one of their crits to my detriment.

It changes the game drastically. They are NOT OPTIONAL.

Have you tried asking them?

I don't use them because they do nothing for me (after several games with/without I can't say they make a difference FOR ME; on the contrary, they needlessly increase the token stack next to the ships and I'm rather clumsy) but I'd never object if an opponent/TO asked me to.

I have never used a crit token for its intended purpose in my life.

That being said, were I in a tournament and a TO asked me to put down crit tokens I would not go full testosterone on him.

As a NorCal guy some of the Mynocks are really cool, some however are getting more and more full of themselves. Grade 1 ego trip by TO and Grade 1 overreaction by you. Everyone loses. Too bad.

Care to elaborate? Because it seems you threw nonsensical sentences about TO lightly. Meanwhile said TO did all the things right, forcing people to follow game rules (as it should be).

Which part the TO getting angry with the player or the part where he demanded he be thrown out of the store? Either one of those seem nonsensical or reasonable to you? The TO enforcing the rule was fine if not priggish by the TO at a local monthly tournament where both players were ambivalent. His overreaction was beyond the pail. Hope this satisfies your query.

As a NorCal guy some of the Mynocks are really cool, some however are getting more and more full of themselves. Grade 1 ego trip by TO and Grade 1 overreaction by you. Everyone loses. Too bad.

Care to elaborate? Because it seems you threw nonsensical sentences about TO lightly. Meanwhile said TO did all the things right, forcing people to follow game rules (as it should be).

Which part the TO getting angry with the player or the part where he demanded he be thrown out of the store? Either one of those seem nonsensical or reasonable to you? The TO enforcing the rule was fine if not priggish by the TO at a local monthly tournament where both players were ambivalent. His overreaction was beyond the pail. Hope this satisfies your query.

So, in your opinion what is the correct TO reaction when a player more or less tells him to his face 'I will not obey the rules on this matter. What are you going to do about it?'

As a NorCal guy some of the Mynocks are really cool, some however are getting more and more full of themselves. Grade 1 ego trip by TO and Grade 1 overreaction by you. Everyone loses. Too bad.

Honestly not a grade 1 ego trip by the TO. As a TO; your job is to enforce the rules for everybody equally. I've seen a kid stack his damage deck with all the direct hits at the bottom and get away without shuffling and cutting in front of his opponent due to little kid points. Not milling your deck only helps to serve a stacked deck. Not saying the OP did this but refusing to abide by the rules, when they are there for a reason, and being deliberately confrontational with the TO (who no doubt would rather be playing than dealing with belligerent players over a clear rule infringement) is not the way to deal with "I think it's a silly rule". Either play by the rules or don't play at a competitive event. Do what you want at home...

It's not that he enforced the rules it's how he went about it that I take issue with. Of course the OP is not blameless and he should have dealt the cards. That doesn't make what the TO did right or acceptable. Becoming angry and demanding to have players thrown out of the store are not qualities/actions a TO should take. He could have just as easily quietly requested that he take the cards or forfeit the match.

As a NorCal guy some of the Mynocks are really cool, some however are getting more and more full of themselves. Grade 1 ego trip by TO and Grade 1 overreaction by you. Everyone loses. Too bad.

Care to elaborate? Because it seems you threw nonsensical sentences about TO lightly. Meanwhile said TO did all the things right, forcing people to follow game rules (as it should be).

Which part the TO getting angry with the player or the part where he demanded he be thrown out of the store? Either one of those seem nonsensical or reasonable to you? The TO enforcing the rule was fine if not priggish by the TO at a local monthly tournament where both players were ambivalent. His overreaction was beyond the pail. Hope this satisfies your query.

So, in your opinion what is the correct TO reaction when a player more or less tells him to his face 'I will not obey the rules on this matter. What are you going to do about it?'

So are you still sticking to, "the TO did all the things right"? As stated in my other response he could have simply and quietly asked him to take the cards (as per the rules) or forfeit the match. The OP should have taken the cards. That, however, doesn't excuse the TO.

As a NorCal guy some of the Mynocks are really cool, some however are getting more and more full of themselves. Grade 1 ego trip by TO and Grade 1 overreaction by you. Everyone loses. Too bad.

Care to elaborate? Because it seems you threw nonsensical sentences about TO lightly. Meanwhile said TO did all the things right, forcing people to follow game rules (as it should be).

Which part the TO getting angry with the player or the part where he demanded he be thrown out of the store? Either one of those seem nonsensical or reasonable to you? The TO enforcing the rule was fine if not priggish by the TO at a local monthly tournament where both players were ambivalent. His overreaction was beyond the pail. Hope this satisfies your query.

So, in your opinion what is the correct TO reaction when a player more or less tells him to his face 'I will not obey the rules on this matter. What are you going to do about it?'

So are you still sticking to, "the TO did all the things right"? As stated in my other response he could have simply and quietly asked him to take the cards (as per the rules) or forfeit the match. The OP should have taken the cards. That, however, doesn't excuse the TO.

You're putting too much stock into the credibility of the angry party's presentation of the events as they occured