Fantastic, someone lock this thread, please
I hate to be that guy, but someone's gotta do it.
I just don't get the whole "I had a minor rules flareup with a single person, therefore I'm going to stop playing entirely and sell off all $600 worth of my ships" mentality. Seems like cutting your foot off in response to stubbing your toe.
..but as I said, I'm over this game, so I won't be reading any more of the forum.
best wishes everybody.
Too bad! I was hoping you would see my post about there being a lot more to X-wing than the tournaments. Casual X-wing is alive and well.
OK....I have to say it.
If the tournament scene is bringing you down.....you don't have to sell your stuff. There is more to X-wing than tournaments.
NOT... for some STUPIDS there ain't. They already failed at life now they are failing in the nerd alternate universe of funk..
*NOTE: not all nerds are unwashed failures... so be happy that you are NOT one of The Stupids Monsters...
Nerds are smart. Geeks hmmm.
You were in the wrong. Not taking the extra damage cards could have influenced the rest of the game.
Either way if such a minor thing could get you to quit you were never really into the game to begin with.
Hope you find a game where a trifle wont get you to take your ball and go home.
X-Wing Tournaments are divided into three official tiers
Expecting a T.O. to overlook an infringement of the rules (at a Premier Tier tournament!) is expecting too much of the "Fly Casual" motto.
The rule may not matter to you or to your opponent, but had you received a critical effect later on, that would have been something else - the effect could easily be the deciding moment between your victory or failure. You may not care about that - but the person scheduled to play the winner might.
Players who imagine that they are entitled to change the rules so long as their opponents for a given round are "okay" with that - either fail to see the big picture (best case), or really couldn't give a rats ...bottom that it isn't up to them and their opponent to decide whether they will play by the rules. That kind of nonsense is fine in a casual game, and even in a great many relaxed tier tournaments - but when we begin to play at formal, and premiere tier events - we are expected to respect the rights of players who themselves have a right to play the legitimate winner of a round.
This isn't about flying casual - this is about quitting because someone didn't let you bend the rules.
best wishes everybody.
To anyone that might think not drawing extra cards doesn't matter: in my last tournament I had a game where opponent failed to do so, and this turned a modified win into a win. When time got called I had 2 U-boats below half hp (34 points on the board) vs. Inquisitor (31 points). By the end 9f the round I manage to sneak a lone crit onto the Inquisitor and it's a Direct Hit,giving me a full win.
Had my opponent drawn the proper amount of cards for his ships the inquisitor would have lived at 1 Hp (we checked afterward). He was super chill about it, I was super chill about it (the game was loads of fun for both of us) but somebody probably placed worse than he would have because we didn't obey that one rule.
Is it conga time yet?
as I said, I'm over this game, so I won't be reading any more of the forum.
so long
and thanks for all the fish
sigh
CONGA TIME!
do do do
come on and do the conga
I didn't expect this to be a 100+ posts topic, so I just skimmed through the posts this morning. I saw someone wondering if there had been some conflict between me and the TO before. I would say not really, the only disagreement we had was in the last league game we played, where he insisted that I measure range from my ship to his ship not from the plastic base but from the ship cardboard. he insisted the plastic base of my ship, especially the slated part, does not count for range for firing. I seem to recall he was hoping to be at range 3 of my primary attack. I thought to myself he was wrong but I let him have it since it didn't really make a difference, and because I've always tried to be friendly to my opponent, usually allowing them take backs and things even if I was losing. I did google it when I came home and I confirmed he was wrong - the plastic base does count.
anyway, generally speaking, the guy I had a problem with (the TO above) is not a bad guy. I do think he was wrong (and yes even bullying). if I want that kind of interaction with people, I'll go at the DMV. but as I said, I'm over this game, so I won't be reading any more of the forum.
best wishes everybody.
FYI, if it's a turret it's closest point to closest point. If it's a non turret shot it's closest point in arc to closest point of the defender. That means you don't use your corner as the line of your arc doesn't go over your corner. I've had shot be at different ranges based on that arc adding a little extra distance because of the angle.
This means it's possible that you really are measuring from your cardboard as it should be flush with your plastic base in arc.
I hope the OP follows through on his declarations.
This has become my favorite thread for some reason
This has become my favorite thread for some reason
It's the **** Wookie Muppet.
The thing I have learned from this thread is to draw extra cards. I was never quite sure about that (some edge case rules don't stick in my head sometimes). I won't forget it after this sh!tstorm.
As a NorCal guy some of the Mynocks are really cool, some however are getting more and more full of themselves. Grade 1 ego trip by TO and Grade 1 overreaction by you. Everyone loses. Too bad.
As a NorCal guy some of the Mynocks are really cool, some however are getting more and more full of themselves. Grade 1 ego trip by TO and Grade 1 overreaction by you. Everyone loses. Too bad.
Honestly not a grade 1 ego trip by the TO. As a TO; your job is to enforce the rules for everybody equally. I've seen a kid stack his damage deck with all the direct hits at the bottom and get away without shuffling and cutting in front of his opponent due to little kid points. Not milling your deck only helps to serve a stacked deck. Not saying the OP did this but refusing to abide by the rules, when they are there for a reason, and being deliberately confrontational with the TO (who no doubt would rather be playing than dealing with belligerent players over a clear rule infringement) is not the way to deal with "I think it's a silly rule". Either play by the rules or don't play at a competitive event. Do what you want at home...
TO was right- those are the tournament rules you should have known and followed. Doesn't matter whether or not you think it is an inconsequential or stupid rule, it is a rule. Your opinion of the rules is irrelevant, you don't get to choose which rules to follow.
You'll get no sympathy from me, your lack of respect for the rules of the game overrule any possible thought that the TO was a bully. I don't know of any competitive game where a player can expect to argue with a TO/judge about a clear and unambiguous rule violation and then expect to be able to act like a child without any sort of consequence.
I hope whomever purchases your ships will come to the game with a willingness to learn and a generous spirit.
It's the **** Wookie Muppet.This has become my favorite thread for some reason
That's got to be it
I hope the OP follows through on his declarations.
I'd rather the OP see the error of their ways and calm down during games and continue playing. Unless of course he flies fat turrets.
I am a regular customer who was not cheating but only broke a usually meaningless rule
Now, there's no need for him to be angry at you. He could simply ask you to follow the rule, and you should respect the TO even if you disagree with him/her.
But you deliberately refused to follow the rules and no it is not a meaningless rule, not when you can cycle the damage deck and reduce the number of specific crits remaining in the deck...
For everyone going on about how important it is to follow the rules, and how the TO was in the right...
I hope you're all using those critical hit tokens in your games. If not, I hope that you all retro-actively disqualify yourselves and return any prizes you may have earned.
I think a more apt comparison would be starting a fight with a TO over how you can't bear to put crit tokens next to your ships.
For everyone going on about how important it is to follow the rules, and how the TO was in the right...
I hope you're all using those critical hit tokens in your games. If not, I hope that you all retro-actively disqualify yourselves and return any prizes you may have earned.
We do, always have?
What is everyone else doing, playing Tetris?
THIS IS X-WING'AAAAAAAAAAAA !
For everyone going on about how important it is to follow the rules, and how the TO was in the right...
I hope you're all using those critical hit tokens in your games. If not, I hope that you all retro-actively disqualify yourselves and return any prizes you may have earned.
I think a more apt comparison would be starting a fight with a TO over how you can't bear to put crit tokens next to your ships.
You make an interesting point about critical hit tokens. The rules (below) do not suggest for a moment that critical hit tokens are optional, but these, being nothing more than a mandated reminder, are entirely redundant, and will not change the outcome of the game if they are not used. (which is not to suggest that it's okay not to use them - but rather that breaking this rule (unlike the other) has no actual consequences to the round, or the Swiss ranking.
When a ship is dealt a faceup Damage card, assign a critical hit token to that ship as a reminder of the card’s ongoing effect. That token is discarded if the card is discarded or flipped facedown.
I would say it makes an apt comparison with regards to "rule breaking" but not so apt a comparison with regards to "game outcome".