So me and a friend were playing a casual game of x-wing and he was using Han Solo. Now when Han attacked he used his ability kinda like a target lock so he only rerolled his non-hits. Now I told him that I belive Han has to reroll his hits too since it states "As many of your dice as possible". We didnt know the corrcect awnser so I just let him use it that way since we were unsure and it was only a casual game. But we do want some clarification because I am 99% sure that I saw someone reroll everything including hits in a tournament that I watched when he used Han's ability.
Edited by PatrikA Queston about Han's pilot ability
Han has to reroll all the dice he can. Usually this means all of them, but each die can only be rerolled once, so if he had already rerolled a die with Predator for instance his ability could not reroll that die again.
Thanks for your awnser and i didn't know you cant reroll dice twice.
Drive-by citation: Rules Reference page 13 "Modifying Dice"
You may not want to but Han MUST reroll ALL dice that can be rolled. If something else was used to reroll a die then it becomes safe from Han but that doesn't change everything else.
Believer or not there are times when you'll actually want to use Han's ability despite having "good" die results. A prime example of this is when his ship has a Gunner on board. Even if the first attack rolls a good result and a bunch of bad ones you probably want to use his ability to see if you can get more good result; there may even be times when you want to see if you can roll away a good result so you're sure the attack will MISS and Gunner will get the opportunity to trigger. When using Han w/ Gunner you usually want at least two or more good results on your attack dice on your first attack because a target would often let one damage through (by not spending tokens or other abilities) just to avoid triggering a second attack that is likely to cause more damage but have less defensive options available.
Sensor Jammer also specifically prohibits rerolling the attack die it downgrades, and since "Defender Modifies Attack Dice" comes before "Attacker Modifies Attack Dice", this will prevent Han from using his ability on that one die.
thats actually something to keep in your mind is when you modify what dice.
All too often people will roll their dice and immediately reroll or mod them before the defender does anything. Defender mods attacker dice before attacker mods his dice, and flip-wise for defense (attacker mods raw defense dice, defender mods defense dice).
Heres a question regarding the reroll a reroll. Han cant reroll if he predators a specific die, but lets say someone he attacks has R7 Astromech and spends his targetlock to force Han to reroll all of his dice before the steps allow him to mod his dice at all. If Han uses his ability now, would this be considered rerolling a reroll, or is this an exception since its not the same player causing the reroll?
Edited by Vineheart01Yes, that would be considered rerolling a reroll. It doesn't matter what the source of the reroll is, attacker or defender, the rule still stays in effect for the die or dice that are rerolled. If the defender used R7 and forced Han to reroll all his dice, he's effectively nullified Han's ability.
As mentioned it doesn't matter who causes a die to be rerolled because it can still only be done one time during an attack.
Run into R7 and it rerolls your dice then you can't reroll those. Now if it rerolled say 2 out of 4 then you could reroll the other two although the 2 he forced you to reroll are barred from that. Note that while R7 could force an attack to reroll any number of attack dice (can't think of anything that would stop it right now yet) it will most likely just reroll any good results and maybe even the Focus results if you'll be able to turn them easily (have a Focus token) later.
in my experience R7 is more of an annoyance than an actual tactic. Every time ive been forced to reroll i get the same result or a better one (crits this time) and every time i force my opponent to reroll same thing lol.
But it would seriously tick off any Han user lol....or people abusing easy targetlocks (vessery...)
Ok, if I may from the thread above:
I have Han Solo,
He attacks, and rolls 3 hits
The Defender modifies Hans rolls with 3 evades thus Han has no hits
Han then can re roll his dice pool again and misses.
Han has a target lock on the target. Can Han re roll again?
Lets say he does, and misses, with Luke sky walker, can he re roll again?
That is a lot of rerolls???
However given the new PDF it states
Modifying attack dice Attack dice may be modified after they are rolled, but before the defense dice are rolled. Attack dice can be modified in the following ways: • Spending a Focus Token: If the attacker has a focus token, he may return it to the supply to change all of his ? results to ? results. • Spending a Target Lock: If the attacker has a target lock on the defender, he may return the pair of target lock tokens to the supply to re roll one or more attack dice of his choice.
Using a Card Effect: A player can modify the attack dice as instructed on a card.
It is only after all the effects have been executed; then the defender rolls their defense and modifies accordingly...
Please advise
Edited by chrisleeingram
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I'm not seeing the question here.
It seems to me that Han had a great initial attack roll (3 hits!) and because if it didn't make any modifications during the time that attack dice would be modified. After that Defense turned out to be even more impressive with 3 Evade result that happen to cancel out all of those hits. There is nothing Han or the TL could have done with his attack dice although now that the attack missed Luke (or Gunner) wakes up and gets to make A BRAND NEW ATTACK; this is a new attack and can be modified by Han's ability or by spending token before a fresh Defense is rolled.
2 hours ago, chrisleeingram said:Ok, if I may from the thread above:
I have Han Solo,
He attacks, and rolls 3 hits
The Defender modifies Hans rolls with 3 evades thus Han has no hits
Han then can re roll his dice pool again and misses.
Han has a target lock on the target. Can Han re roll again?
Lets say he does, and misses, with Luke sky walker, can he re roll again?
That is a lot of rerolls???
You have misunderstood the rules. When you roll defence dice, that's not modifying attack dice. It's just rolling defence.
Here is the correct sequence:
- Han rolls.
- The defender may use abilities which modify the attacker's roll. Sensor Jammer is a good example, turning a hit into a focus, or M9-G8 to force a reroll on one die.
- Now the attacker may use abilities to modify attack dice. This is where Han's ability triggers.
- Then the defender rolls defence dice.
- The attacker modifies defence dice. Things like Juke trigger here.
- The defender modifies defence dice. Mostly this means spending focus or evade tokens.
- Then, and only then, do you actually compare results.
In other words, rolling attack and defence dice are two totally different steps. Han can't reroll his attack dice if the defender rolls 3 evades, because at that point the attack is over! That's it.
Let's instead assume that Han rolled three blanks, and then used his ability. At this point he could not spend his target lock, because each die can only be rerolled once per attack. That's why Han never takes target locks. They clash with his ability.
However, you're right that Han can end up rerolling a whole bunch of dice. He can, in theory, roll all of his attack dice four times if he has Gunner or Luke. This is how people used to run Han, because it gave him really consistent offence - you didn't even need focuses, because with four rolls (and Predator for those situations where you roll two hits and a focus/blank) you're probably gonna get three hits at some point. (Especially with Luke.)
Let me know if this doesn't make sense. It's an important part of the game, so try and make sure you understand it!