I'm suprised that FFG got the licence for Horus Heresy the boardgame. This was an old GW game made in 92 or 93 I don't remember it that good. Could this mean that there is a small chance for Mighty Empires or even Warhammer Quest?

PS. I don't know if You have seen that some days ago GW forced the Board game Geek to delete all the fan content for thier old games. Could this mean that the gived the licence for all thier products to FFG? Maybe only not for the battle games but for all the old board game titles? Hmm, GW mades really strange moves.

ffgfan said:

GW's decision to remove online content has far more to do with trying to compensate for the recession than anything else.

On the other hand, I believe FFG have more or less carte blanche to rerelease board games as they did for Chaos Marauders and to develop new ones as with the excellent Chaos in the Old World, so there's hope to see some old favourites

GW legal dept is apparently throwing cease & desist orders left and right nowadays. BGG is not the only site to receive it, a number of fansites also did, including the Dark Reign forum (for Dark Heresy). It's not just the old games, GW has a really anal-retentive approach to all of their intellectual property.

As for Warhammer Quest, I vaguely recall reading somewhere that the licence GW sold FFG specifically didn't include that game (as well as anything that would use minis). I may be wrong of course, but in that case, WHQ would be probably the next game released by FFG after Talisman, being a sure hit and all. At the very least, there should be some announcements already.

Warhammer Quest is my favorite game of all time. It's the game that made me a board game addict! I *really* hope FFG can figure out some way to either make it or at least a decent clone.

The chances of WHQ coming back in the past were slim to none as IIRC a misshap destroyed all the original files of WHQ. But I'm sure there are a lot of smart people employed by FFG who are able to rebuild a better version of WHQ (and hopefully a better balanced one as the old one was pretty broken on higher lvls).

FFG doesn't seem to produce anything that provides miniatures that could be used in Warhammer or Warhammer 40k. I think Warhammer Quest would be much more likely as a limited release from GW like the recent Space Hulk reissue.

HMM I think that what GW does in these cases are only to distribute risks away from themselves.

The risks lies with the companies that produce the licensed products, if the product fails, GW will not risk losses, but the producing company will. If it`s a success GW will cash in. In either situations its a win-win situation for GW when concering risks.

I don`t like that marketing angle from GW. But on the other hand, their licenses agreements, do allow the world of warhammer to spread in almost any possible incarnations available. from boardgames, new rpgs, toothpaste and coffee mugs and such. I think over time it would be better for FFG to buy the rights to produce WHRP rather than "borrow" the rights. Even though the initial cost would be more expensive than licensing it. But that option will only be available if GW choose to sell the rights.

I am not a fan of companies that can sit on rights they don`t act on. Like not producing WHRP, but still have the rights. I am more in favour of "if intention of said ownership is not met, the rights should be invoked or sold to a company willing to fulfill the intention of said product". What about the consumers` rights? A company that just sit on the rights, but have no intention of selling or products other through expensive licenses should lose their right to have warranty of such product.

oh, enough ranting from me. I am just sceptical to the whole GW strategy, from the customers point of view

Wallabee_Champ said:

Before Warhammer Quest there was HeroQuest (and Advanced version). Those featured HUGE amount of plastic miniatures very much Warhammer Style even HeroQuest was not exactly placed in the Warhammer World. Great games.

I dont know did Warhammer Quest have it, but HeroQuest had also long-lost Fimir

Shouldn't this be in another forum?

Ferozstein said:

Yes. This is a shame. OtOH they dont have much problem stealing theirselves ideas from media and fiction. (ever seen Aliens and then played Space Hulk?) What a crap company.

superklaus said:

Warner bro's took GW to court over that many years ago... and lost, as genestealers and space marines are nothing like aliens vs humans, they did not just do it over space hulk thou it was the entire tyranid range, which at the time was nothing like the films. Now due to double jeapody they cant be taken to court again and you can see the simularties in model design creeping in, especially with the warriors, gaunts and hive tyrants.

Do you think there is still a place for WHQ next to Descent ? I see a lot of overlap between the two games, the only real difference is that one is placed in the Warhammer Universe, and the other not. But if that difference alone is enough to warrant a new game ? I doubt it.

I own both Warhammer Quest and Descent and I would say that despite certain similarities, they are very different games.

In particular, Warhammer Quest has an optional "roleplay" variant that makes it more like D&D.

Descent on the other hand has a lot of unique elements like spawining, conquest tokens, etc. which make it much more tactical.

I love both games for different reasons.

FFG has not liscence to make miniatures for anything GW - that is the one thing GW will choke hold for themselves until the company has become dust.

KjetilKverndokken said:

LOL, try again... You obviously havn't seen the front page of FFG's website...

Miniatures are different than boardgame pieces. Miniatures are glue-together paintable kits, while boardgame pieces are often one piece (at the most, three) plastic 3D tokens. Not hating on boardgame pieces, they're rad too!

cadamec said:

You mean Horus Heresy? Those minis are actually okay, since they are of clearly different scale and cannot be used alongside (or, what GW fears the most, instead of) regular WH40K miniatures. Same thing as with Talisman, which in FFG version also uses minis and not standups.

Ferozstein said:

But this whole argument is pointless. So they can't use Citadel minis. Big deal. They are obviously capable of making thier own minis for the games, just like they always have been. I seriously doubt FFG would want to put model sprues in their games anyways.