Trying to come up with casual B-lists. This may not be as effective as a TIE Crack Swarm, but it would be fun to try.

Tansarii Point Veteran (17)
Crack Shot (1)

Tansarii Point Veteran (17)
Crack Shot (1)

Tansarii Point Veteran (17)
Crack Shot (1)

Tansarii Point Veteran (17)
Crack Shot (1)

Serissu (20)
Crack Shot (1)
Shield Upgrade (4)

Total: 97

It would be one less Crack Shot attack and not as durable as the TIE Crack Swarm, but it does have Target Locks to make the alpha strike more effective and Serissu to aid in defense (for one round, probably).

Thoughts?

My only thought is that I've thought about it a lot, but being down a ship seems like a real handicap. Plus, I don't own that many Scyks.

Put a mangler cannon on them. That way the CS counts/hurts more.

Put a mangler cannon on them. That way the CS counts/hurts more.

Well, that opens this debate...

List A--96 points.

Tansarii Point Veteran (17)

Crack Shot (1)

"Mangler" Cannon (4)

"Heavy Scyk" Interceptor (Cannon) (2)

Tansarii Point Veteran (17)

Crack Shot (1)

"Mangler" Cannon (4)

"Heavy Scyk" Interceptor (Cannon) (2)

Tansarii Point Veteran (17)

Crack Shot (1)

"Mangler" Cannon (4)

"Heavy Scyk" Interceptor (Cannon) (2)

Tansarii Point Veteran (17)

Crack Shot (1)

"Mangler" Cannon (4)

"Heavy Scyk" Interceptor (Cannon) (2)

List B--96 points

Black Sun Ace (23)

Crack Shot (1)

Black Sun Ace (23)

Crack Shot (1)

Black Sun Ace (23)

Crack Shot (1)

Black Sun Ace (23)

Crack Shot (1)

Dials are nearly identical. So I can have either 3 AGI + Evade + Barrel Roll + free Hit to Crit OR 2 AGI + 2 extra hull + 4 dice at Range 1. With List B, I could give 2 of them Glitterstim to make the list 100 points.

Split the difference?

List C--100 pts.

Tansarii Point Veteran (17)

Crack Shot (1)

"Mangler" Cannon (4)

"Heavy Scyk" Interceptor (Cannon) (2)

Tansarii Point Veteran (17)

Crack Shot (1)

"Mangler" Cannon (4)

"Heavy Scyk" Interceptor (Cannon) (2)

Black Sun Ace (23)

Glitterstim (2)

Crack Shot (1)

Black Sun Ace (23)

Glitterstim (2)

Crack Shot (1)

My only thought is that I've thought about it a lot, but being down a ship seems like a real handicap.

I was hoping Target Lock would help make up for the lack of a sixth ship.

Put a mangler cannon on them. That way the CS counts/hurts more.

Well, that opens this debate...

List A--96 points.

Tansarii Point Veteran (17)

Crack Shot (1)

"Mangler" Cannon (4)

"Heavy Scyk" Interceptor (Cannon) (2)

Tansarii Point Veteran (17)

Crack Shot (1)

"Mangler" Cannon (4)

"Heavy Scyk" Interceptor (Cannon) (2)

Tansarii Point Veteran (17)

Crack Shot (1)

"Mangler" Cannon (4)

"Heavy Scyk" Interceptor (Cannon) (2)

Tansarii Point Veteran (17)

Crack Shot (1)

"Mangler" Cannon (4)

"Heavy Scyk" Interceptor (Cannon) (2)

List B--96 points

Black Sun Ace (23)

Crack Shot (1)

Black Sun Ace (23)

Crack Shot (1)

Black Sun Ace (23)

Crack Shot (1)

Black Sun Ace (23)

Crack Shot (1)

Dials are nearly identical. So I can have either 3 AGI + Evade + Barrel Roll + free Hit to Crit OR 2 AGI + 2 extra hull + 4 dice at Range 1. With List B, I could give 2 of them Glitterstim to make the list 100 points.

Split the difference?

List C--100 pts.

Tansarii Point Veteran (17)

Crack Shot (1)

"Mangler" Cannon (4)

"Heavy Scyk" Interceptor (Cannon) (2)

Tansarii Point Veteran (17)

Crack Shot (1)

"Mangler" Cannon (4)

"Heavy Scyk" Interceptor (Cannon) (2)

Black Sun Ace (23)

Glitterstim (1)

Crack Shot (1)

Black Sun Ace (23)

Glitterstim (1)

Crack Shot (1)

I think I'd go with the hybrid build. Glitterstim is very powerful, but so is the barrel roll. I, personally, have more fun with Scyks, but the Black Sun Ace is no slouch.

My only thought is that I've thought about it a lot, but being down a ship seems like a real handicap.

I was hoping Target Lock would help make up for the lack of a sixth ship.

Yeah, me too. I wrote a long analysis a few months ago comparing the 7-Scyk swam to the 8-TIE swarm. That was my main consolation -- every ship gets an extra Target Lock Action. But the more I think about it, the more I feel it just isn't enough.

Also, in the TIE CrackSwarm, you often have Howlrunner helping by allowing rerolls for the swarm. With focus + 1 reroll, they can hit pretty accurately. I think it outclasses a single target lock action.

Put a mangler cannon on them. That way the CS counts/hurts more.

Well, that opens this debate... List A--96 points.Tansarii Point Veteran (17)Crack Shot (1)"Mangler" Cannon (4)"Heavy Scyk" Interceptor (Cannon) (2)Tansarii Point Veteran (17)Crack Shot (1)"Mangler" Cannon (4)"Heavy Scyk" Interceptor (Cannon) (2)Tansarii Point Veteran (17)Crack Shot (1)"Mangler" Cannon (4)"Heavy Scyk" Interceptor (Cannon) (2)Tansarii Point Veteran (17)Crack Shot (1)"Mangler" Cannon (4)"Heavy Scyk" Interceptor (Cannon) (2) List B--96 pointsBlack Sun Ace (23)Crack Shot (1)Black Sun Ace (23)Crack Shot (1)Black Sun Ace (23)Crack Shot (1)Black Sun Ace (23)Crack Shot (1) Dials are nearly identical. So I can have either 3 AGI + Evade + Barrel Roll + free Hit to Crit OR 2 AGI + 2 extra hull + 4 dice at Range 1. With List B, I could give 2 of them Glitterstim to make the list 100 points. Split the difference? List C--100 pts. Tansarii Point Veteran (17)Crack Shot (1)"Mangler" Cannon (4)"Heavy Scyk" Interceptor (Cannon) (2)Tansarii Point Veteran (17)Crack Shot (1)"Mangler" Cannon (4)"Heavy Scyk" Interceptor (Cannon) (2)Black Sun Ace (23)Glitterstim (2) Crack Shot (1)Black Sun Ace (23)Glitterstim (2) Crack Shot (1)

My only thought is that I've thought about it a lot, but being down a ship seems like a real handicap.

I was hoping Target Lock would help make up for the lack of a sixth ship.

I played a similar list in a tournament a while ago.

Kihraxz Fighter: Cartel Marauder (20)

Kihraxz Fighter: Cartel Marauder (20)

Kihraxz Fighter: Cartel Marauder (20)

M3-A Interceptor: Cartel Spacer (14)

"Heavy Scyk" Interceptor (2)

"Mangler" Cannon (4)

M3-A Interceptor: Cartel Spacer (14)

"Heavy Scyk" Interceptor (2)

"Mangler" Cannon (4)

-- TOTAL ------- 100/100p. --

It played really well. I went 2 - 2 in the tournament. I lost my first game against a swarm by one ship. We went to time, finished the round as he axed one of my kihraxz, giving him the edge.

I barrel rolled an M3A into a position that prevented another player from bringing a jumpmaster all the way on the board. Won that game with a barrel roll...

The hybrid was nice. I worried that I'd miss the extra 4 hull, but found evade tokens and barrel rolls more than made up for it.

I am taking a similar list to have fun with tonight, it is:

Tansarii Point Veteran (17)
Crack Shot (1)

Tansarii Point Veteran (17)
Crack Shot (1)

Tansarii Point Veteran (17)
Crack Shot (1)

Tansarii Point Veteran (17)
Crack Shot (1)

Kaato Leachos (15)

Crack Shot (1)

Binyare Pirate (12)

Well, that opens this debate...

Tansarii Point Veteran (17)

Crack Shot (1)

"Mangler" Cannon (4)

"Heavy Scyk" Interceptor (Cannon) (2)

Tansarii Point Veteran (17)

Crack Shot (1)

"Mangler" Cannon (4)

"Heavy Scyk" Interceptor (Cannon) (2)

Black Sun Ace (23)

Glitterstim (1)

Crack Shot (1)

Black Sun Ace (23)

Glitterstim (1)

Crack Shot (1)

Tansarii Point Veteran (17)

Attanni Mindlink (1)

"Mangler" Cannon (4)

"Heavy Scyk" Interceptor (Cannon) (2)

Tansarii Point Veteran (17)

Attanni Mindlink (1)

"Mangler" Cannon (4)

"Heavy Scyk" Interceptor (Cannon) (2)

Black Sun Ace (23)

Attanni Mindlink (1)

Black Sun Ace (23)

Attanni Mindlink (1)

With 4 points left to put towards something. You don't need Stim with all the free focus. You could FA both, or go asymmetrical and put a cloak and SPA on one of them. Or Deadman's Switch both of them if you aren't scared of hurting your own guys. I wish there were a way to squeeze 2 more points somewhere so you could upgrade the Scyks to HLCs, but oh well.

So it gets rid of Crack for a healthier lifestyle and picks up some jedi mind trickery.

I've been on the fence about mindlink swarms. I tend to feel having a mini-swarm and a non swarm ship to feed the focus to the swarm.

What's been the experience others? I just wish about that one fellar who only has the one Focus. Maybe taking Katoo as a companion would solve some of that?