Outrider and HLC

By redviperofdorne, in X-Wing Rules Questions

An opponent armed a YT-2400 with outrider and HLC. I told him he couldn't use range bonus dice because HLC was still a secondary weapon. I told him for the same reason he couldn't shoot at range one because of HLC's limitation. I told him if at some point in the game if he wanted to shoot at range one, he would have to give up outrider for the rest of the game. Was I correct?

Correct except for being able to give up HLC to shoot at range 1. Range 1 is off the table the entire game once outrider and HLC are equipped.

Correct except for being able to give up HLC to shoot at range 1. Range 1 is off the table the entire game once outrider and HLC are equipped.

Not entirely true if youre using the damage deck from the original core set. There's a critical damage that disables secondary weapons. If you get this crit, the HLC is offline and you revert back to the 2 dice primary. I don't think this crit is in the second (blue box) core.

Or if the opponent is forgiving-ish, he could Boba Fett the card ;)

Or if the opponent is forgiving-ish, he could Boba Fett the card ;)

I'd use Boba to halve Dash's offensive power every day of the week. Nothing forgiving about it at all.

Edited by DR4CO

Well, if you're gonna arm your YT2400 with an HLC, better be prepared for the consequences: The donut hole of offensive impotence.

I told him if at some point in the game if he wanted to shoot at range one, he would have to give up outrider for the rest of the game. Was I correct?

Players are not permitted to discard upgrade cards unless a game effect instructs them to do so.

Same note... Defenders don't get range bonus vs. HLC on the outrider. Correct?

Correct.

A YT-2400 with the Outrider title cannot perform primary attacks as long as a cannon upgrade is equipped on the ship (as per the text of the title card).

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You could take the title, and not equip a cannon (which would be a huge waste of five points), and then still be able to fire through the primary weapon - but once you add a cannon to the build, you may no longer use your primary weapon under any circumstance.

Of course, you could take the canon minus the title and have a pretty good ship. Three dice at R1 and 4 dice at R2+ in arc. Takes some getting use to but pretty decent depending on the opposition.

Thanks for the help.

My personal favourite HLC platform is S&V Kath Scarlet. You've got a 4-die attack from Range 1-3 in both arcs.

My personal favourite HLC platform is S&V Kath Scarlet. You've got a 4-die attack from Range 1-3 in both arcs.

In fact, small detail, but you got a 5 dice at range 1 in the auxilary arc... This is a lot...

Very true. Maybe I should have said "at least" 4 dice. :)

Very true. Maybe I should have said "at least" 4 dice. :)

Wanted to add the info, because many people would take it at face value and say: No on the forum the guy said 4 dice everywhere...