Let's put it this way: if FFG stopped releasing new packs for the next full year, the Falcon and other ships would crop up again. This regional season is under the effect of wave 8 being out right before it, and people have finite time to try out their ships competitively and tend to not switch lists every game so that they can become good with them. You're looking at very narrow data without considering the "pulses" of relative stagnation and mutual copying that go with them listwise and which usually last a season. People like to consult successful lists and like to mimic their success. If you put these same people in an alternate universe where everyone is playing 5x A-Wings that'd be your dominant list instead of imp aces.

What I'm saying is: don't only use the fast changing, short-lived narrow tendencies of tournaments to produce data-driven fundamental changes to ignored ships. That's only a minor piece of the puzzle. There are far more matchups not being played right now which must also serve as a basis for consideration.

but I honestly can't remember the last time a Falcon pilot took a top spot in a major tournament.

I can

trust me, this state of things is a MASSIVE improvement over that

seriously, **** the fat PWT archetype. It's a tragic waste of an iconic ship and an utter failure of game design. Even though torpscouts took my lovely conners off of the competitive table, I will have nothing but good things to say to them about how they simply ruin Han/Cheri.

even then, I'm still buying Heroes (T-70's baby!). After all, only the YT-1300 title works exclusively with YT-1300 s. Even the Smuggler's Compartment that grants illicits has too much text to specify YT-1300 Only , which means we'll probably see it on its far less obnoxious younger brother

What confuses me about the hate with this expansion is why people think the rest of us care what they aren't going to buy ? I'm not buying Imperial Veterans, does anyone care ? Nope. Great. Why would you ?

I'm fine with it. I get it. It's about new Star Wars stuff from the new movies. That's OK. I won't buy it, but that's probably more to the fact that I haven't ever flown my original Falcon once. I bought it when it came out and just never flown it. Oh, I used it a couple of times for the Trench Run missions that someone else flew. I just have no interest in buying another Falcon to collect dust.

What confuses me about the hate with this expansion is why people think the rest of us care what they aren't going to buy ? I'm not buying Imperial Veterans, does anyone care ? Nope. Great. Why would you ?

because its the internet

MY OPINION MATTERS NO MATTER HOW DUMB IT IS LISTEN TO MEEEEEEE!!!

in all seriousness, the main reason people are urked about the new Poe is purely because tons of people have repainted their T70 already and now they feel like they wasted their time. Which i can kinda understand. As for the hate for the falcon? I dont get that one. Falcon needs help, the stuff in that box is helping it both with new pilots, new toys (illicit/fancy turn), and new....model....ok that doesnt count lol.

What confuses me about the hate with this expansion is why people think the rest of us care what they aren't going to buy ? I'm not buying Imperial Veterans, does anyone care ? Nope. Great. Why would you ?

because its the internet

MY OPINION MATTERS NO MATTER HOW DUMB IT IS LISTEN TO MEEEEEEE!!!

in all seriousness, the main reason people are urked about the new Poe is purely because tons of people have repainted their T70 already and now they feel like they wasted their time. Which i can kinda understand. As for the hate for the falcon? I dont get that one. Falcon needs help, the stuff in that box is helping it both with new pilots, new toys (illicit/fancy turn), and new....model....ok that doesnt count lol.

I never repainted mine as we all knew this was gonna come out eventually.

I don't own a Falcon, yet. I'm waiting for this one now.

Hey, as long as you Rebel Scum have to wait as long as we did for Vets, then you can do whatever you want with your fire arcs. You'll be stressed anyways...

Hey, as long as you Rebel Scum have to wait as long as we did for Vets, then you can do whatever you want with your fire arcs. You'll be stressed anyways...

suspicions (hopeless speculation) are set for a gencon release

which, at this rate, is where Imp Vets will also be

I agree with the OP. The YT-1300 is iconic and I for one want to be able to fly it in this game without feeling like I'm creating a negative playing experience. I bought one a couple years ago because it's the Millenium Falcon. But the poor PWT design led me to not play it. The designers seem to understand the problem with PWT's and hopefully HotR will make the Falcon viable in a not-just-a-3-die-PWT manner. Hopefully, I can start playing with this iconic ship and feel good about it!

Edit: grammar

while I'm optimistic about the not yt-1300 portion of heroes, I don't think FFG is going to be able to fix the NPE of PWTs in this case

they had the opportunity, with new resistance pilots (even if two of them are technically still Han and Chewie) and a new resistance Falcon model, to release a Mobile Arc version of the yt-1300 and they didn't take it

even with Rei's arc-locked ability and FFG's (overdue) emphasis on the firing arc, I doubt the falcon will have what it takes to transcend the shackles of that horribly designed rule. Either it'll be dragged down by huge point costs and continue to represent a very easy target for torpscouts, or torpscouts will fade and we'll be back to Wave 5 (assuming Palp Aces even care about PWTs anymore; half a list for a single 3-die primary isn't impressive any of them anytime soon)

Wave 5 PWTs presented the NEED for hyper-defensive tech in the first place, simply because you could not outplay them. Hell, even the PWTs were hyper defensive or else they couldn't dice-trade against each other!

They're a very polarizing capability in that regard, and simply introducing a few in-arc benefits isn't going to change that

How many square dish Falcons do I want?

ONE

How many black/orange T-70 BB-8 Poe X-Wings do I want?

ONE

How many Heroes of the Resistance Expansions do I want?

ONE

Hmmmmmm

Works out rather well for me.

BONUS TIME!

I like the new Falcon title, and I plan to combine it with Rey pilot and Ezra Bridger crew. If you fly behind me you are going to pay! This is the Falcon I'm looking for.

(Will still fly my old Chewie with Lando crew though)

I'm also pleased to see some more named T-70 pilots. Can't wait to see what they bring to the game. I'm lovin' the T-70, the two of us are a winning combo right now.

as of right now i dont see a reason to get 2 of them but theres a ton of stuff that isnt revealed yet. There could be some good generics or other non-unique upgrades.

Then again scum players might really want the illicit SLAM. Could make some ships really rocket across the board, even if it is one use.

Heroes is a very considerate expac in that there are a LOT of multiples in there, and most of the single upgrades are unique

As long as prow thrusters isn't the auto thruster of the t70 (or if snapswarm Trump's crackswarm), I don't think ffg intended for people to purchase more than one

Heroes is a very considerate expac in that there are a LOT of multiples in there, and most of the single upgrades are unique

As long as prow thrusters isn't the auto thruster of the t70 (or if snapswarm Trump's crackswarm), I don't think ffg intended for people to purchase more than one

Unlike, imp veterans, aces, and rebel aces where the custom paint jobs are unique to a squadron or class, not a single pilot.

Heroes is a very considerate expac in that there are a LOT of multiples in there, and most of the single upgrades are unique

As long as prow thrusters isn't the auto thruster of the t70 (or if snapswarm Trump's crackswarm), I don't think ffg intended for people to purchase more than one

The models inside are unique custom ships so it wouldn't make sense to fly more than one of anything inside.

Unlike, imp veterans, aces, and rebel aces where the custom paint jobs are unique to a squadron or class, not a single pilot.

well, unless you're going for an I'M SPARTICUS! list of course

I think FFG has learned from the PWT fortress days, I think we are going to probably see some different pilot abilities which at least favor pointing the ship at an enemy. I am really hoping for Han himself to get a new ability, or at least a few cards that favor more advanced flying to go with him. We already have the slooping on demand card revealed, that is kinda neat. If the box is as good as I am hoping, I will probably end up skipping buying the original YT-1300 all together. Theoretically it could have a new dial as well, seeing as this is a resistance ship and not a rebel one, but I dunno if that is going to happen.

nah it's still a yt-1300

if it were a whole new ship (same ship-type; different rules easy to distinguish as only the resistance pilots would have the "rotate mobile arc" action), we'd see mobile arcs on it ala the Shadowcaster (missed opportunity imo)

As somebody who deeply dislikes Heroes of the Resistance, here's why:

-My main reason is that I dislike the idea of having multiple cards with the same name (Han, Chewie, Poe, Falcon title) but different in-game effects and possibly different costs. I feel it will add an unneeded layer of confusion and it opens the door for lazy fixes from FFG. So far FFG has been pretty creative in fixing ships. However, if the new cards are well received what's stopping them for simply recosting/changing around PS and abilities of underperforming pilots in the future? That maybe won't happen, nut it's no longer something I can say 'FFG will never do that' because they already have.

I feel it's greatly devaluing my Millennium Falcon purchase. If new Han, Chewie and Title turn up to be better than the old ones, what exactly do I still have of value from the old pack apart from Engine Upgrade and a very expensive paperweight?

Opening my Falcon was an experience that took me back to being a four year old at christmas in '77!

I don't expect the same sensation from this set. But I'll get it happily for the rest of the gubbins inside. I'll probably give the new Falcon to my daughter or nephew as I don't really feel the need for two.

Unless I paint one as an ORS.

I honestly don't care about the Falcon part of it, i want the three new T-70 pilots and the oodles of upgrade cards. New EPTs, new modifications, new tech card, new astromech, new crew, new titles. What's not to like?

I'll get it mostly for the upgrades personally, though Rey sounds like a fun pilot with the new title.

My Black One is much, much better looking than the one in that pack, so the FFG one will just be fodder to be repainted, I'll just have to decide on a design for it, seeing as I've done my Red Ace.

Having a second Falcon will be cool for my sons. There's three of us playing in my house, with the fourth very much looking forward to being allowed to play. I'm sure they'll be overjoyed to each be able to pick a YT-1300 to face me.

I honestly don't care about the Falcon part of it, i want the three new T-70 pilots and the oodles of upgrade cards. New EPTs, new modifications, new tech card, new astromech, new crew, new titles. What's not to like?

It's a good point, though

We're getting

3 t-70 pilots (**** off Poe 2.0)

1 new tech (possibly 2 not sure which slot Prow... goes in), which seems to put "perform action" before "check pilot stress" after a (probably red) manuever

That is auto include for t-roll Poe but, if priced right (1), you could see it on FO ships or TA t-70s

Smugglers compartment (illicts for seemingly BOTH yts)

SLAM illicit for YTs AND scum ships

New epts

Two new rebel only (hopefully not yt-1300 only, which hasn't happened yet but it'd really piss in the porridge) crew

New unique Astro!

Sexy t70 paintscheme

And a large base paperweight to keep the AC from blowing your work away this hot summer