OK so people have argued all sorts of reason on this. 2 big ones:

• They can't make packs of star wars cards it's got a different licence.

I don't buy this one becasue see here.

• It's too expensive for FFG to make these.

Well this is the one i guess is the most plausible but now I've just seen this new announcement.

This is 2 packs of 14 cards (11 standard american and 3 mini american) 5 bucks each and only 14 cards.

Now I don't exactly know for sure but this game isn't exactly in any kind of spotlight is it? I mean I do have a copy and it's decent enough but it's not like it's FFG biggest selling game or anything. Remind me again what is FFG's biggest selling game?

I'm probably gonna look a right berk and it's like Fury of Dracula or something, but my point still stands, something like this could easily exist for x-wing right?

So, card expansions for a card game is your "evidence".

Again, why would they make something like that, when they can toss a mini in there and charge much more?

Why would they change how they sell in your own words "their best selling product line"? Clearly their current model works.

If they're selling other products' expansions cheaper its likely to garner interest for that system, X-wing doesn't have that problem.

the only time I'd expect card packs were if FFG were ever to release a whole new version of X-wing

Warmachine has done this once already, transitioning from MK 1 to MK 2 by offering all the units' stat cards in fairly affordable packs (grouped and sold by the faction), and they're set to do it again for MK 3

well, they could easily just release pilot kits. New pilots for ships that are lacking in variety (especially large ships) coupled with upgrade cards but no ship. Even if it was 10 bucks, which is only 5 cheaper than the one with the model (a clear loss on our end, theres no way these models are only worth 5 bucks) people would still buy it.

What i doubt they'd ever do is strict pilot or upgrade card releases. Both, yes, but "Upgrade Pack: Imperial" where its got a bunch of general cards and all the imperial-only upgrade cards....yeah that would be really out of place and i'd be shocked to see it.

I was thinking of a different sort of expansion though, could be cool to have an expansion to game-play rather than ships and upgrades. Like maybe Objective cards similar to armada, or Squadron cards as discussed elsewhere.

I also recently picked up the little expansion to Elder Sign that had a few little cool extra game-play bits, little deck of phobia cards that you just plug in to the game to have a slightly different experience.

It just looks to me like these mini expansions seem to be viable, so someone at FFG must be thinking of ways to add to x-wing with them.

So, card expansions for a card game is your "evidence".

Again, why would they make something like that, when they can toss a mini in there and charge much more?

Unfortunately I think this is the right answer. The model is working, and WHQ is entirely a card game.

The bundling of universal cards with miniatures is why I never bought far into X-Wing and sold my collection.

They have said in multiple interviews they will not do this for x-wing. that's the main reason they wont

I expect it at some point but I don't think we're quite there yet. When ships stop moving off the shelves because they've made "enough" of them to sit around that might be one thing but, at least at every shop I've been to lately, there are few expansions that aren't always sold out or near to (I see a lot of interceptors, phantoms, and HWKs).

They'll need to do a major errata at some point and I expect that this could coincide with that.

I would love it but it wont happen.

I've been saying they should bring these kind of packs out for ages )):

http://xwing-miniatures.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:10252

They have said in multiple interviews they will not do this for x-wing. that's the main reason they wont

Why people insist on saying this is beyond me. As time progresses, the market changes. Sometimes, businesses and/or there products change to take advantage of or to keep up with the changing market. If it benefits FFG to sell card only packs, then FFG will do so. Think.

They have said in multiple interviews they will not do this for x-wing. that's the main reason they wont

Why people insist on saying this is beyond me. As time progresses, the market changes. Sometimes, businesses and/or there products change to take advantage of or to keep up with the changing market. If it benefits FFG to sell card only packs, then FFG will do so. Think.

No one has yet to present why card packs are better than the current operating procedure, though.

They have said in multiple interviews they will not do this for x-wing. that's the main reason they wont

Why people insist on saying this is beyond me. As time progresses, the market changes. Sometimes, businesses and/or there products change to take advantage of or to keep up with the changing market. If it benefits FFG to sell card only packs, then FFG will do so. Think.

No one has yet to present why card packs are better than the current operating procedure, though.

Well, at some point people might get tired of buying repaints of the same model, but expanding the roster of pilots in the game may be useful. There are only so many times they can do a HotR release and not have players get tired of buying essentially the same model.

In terms of development, I would tend to think cards are cheaper to produce than a 3D model + cards. I could be wrong, however.

Remind me again what is FFG's biggest selling game?

X-Wing is FFG's biggest-selling game. I assume you've heard the expression, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

Card only expansions doesn't fit the business model for their miniature games. In every expansion pack all of the cards are playable with the model. You do need the model to play X-wing or at least the base tiles. I know there are those that say the model has no mechanical purpose only the base but playing with only the base is needed is like playing a game of Warhammer/Warmachine/Hordes with only bases and nothing else. This isn't Disc Wars, the models are an integral part of the game be it in mechanics or aesthetics you cannot take them out.

They have said in multiple interviews they will not do this for x-wing. that's the main reason they wont

Why people insist on saying this is beyond me. As time progresses, the market changes. Sometimes, businesses and/or there products change to take advantage of or to keep up with the changing market. If it benefits FFG to sell card only packs, then FFG will do so. Think.

No one has yet to present why card packs are better than the current operating procedure, though.

Well, at some point people might get tired of buying repaints of the same model, but expanding the roster of pilots in the game may be useful. There are only so many times they can do a HotR release and not have players get tired of buying essentially the same model.

In terms of development, I would tend to think cards are cheaper to produce than a 3D model + cards. I could be wrong, however.

The Falcon is still their best selling model. Reprints are still fairly regular. We are still a long ways off from that point.

If it ain't broke.

No.

I wasn't talking about card packs for pilots though.

They could do Missions, Objectives, Squadrons, maybe a mini card deck of events, like asteroids moving, maybe a deck of cards that you can use during play as one time effects/buffs.

Some stuff that promotes X-Wing more like a fun tabletop game instead of a WAAC maths equation.

So, card expansions for a card game is your "evidence".

Again, why would they make something like that, when they can toss a mini in there and charge much more?

Ya'know; every-now-and-agains meanass Sithborg makes an awesome post funny!

They have said in multiple interviews they will not do this for x-wing. that's the main reason they wont

Why people insist on saying this is beyond me. As time progresses, the market changes. Sometimes, businesses and/or there products change to take advantage of or to keep up with the changing market. If it benefits FFG to sell card only packs, then FFG will do so. Think.

No one has yet to present why card packs are better than the current operating procedure, though.

Well, at some point people might get tired of buying repaints of the same model, but expanding the roster of pilots in the game may be useful. There are only so many times they can do a HotR release and not have players get tired of buying essentially the same model.

In terms of development, I would tend to think cards are cheaper to produce than a 3D model + cards. I could be wrong, however.

The Falcon is still their best selling model. Reprints are still fairly regular. We are still a long ways off from that point.

All true. Just making the presentation you asked for .

• It's too expensive for FFG to make these.

Well this is the one i guess is the most plausible but now I've just seen this new announcement.

This is 2 packs of 14 cards (11 standard american and 3 mini american) 5 bucks each and only 14 cards.

I don't think you are following what part is the thing makes something 'too expensive'.

Hint: it ain't the cardboard and plastic bits.

Hint #2: Compare the "famous" production and balance quality you get out of WizKid's cousin product line to this one, who do indeed churn out card-only expansion packs in their prize kits, as well as new retail kits, at a rate resulting in about a dozen new cards a month.

No.

For a Wookiee, you sure post a lot of one-word, binary responses.

I wasn't talking about card packs for pilots though.

They could do Missions, Objectives, Squadrons, maybe a mini card deck of events, like asteroids moving, maybe a deck of cards that you can use during play as one time effects/buffs.

Some stuff that promotes X-Wing more like a fun tabletop game instead of a WAAC maths equation.

All of these could be cleverly package with a model, however.

If you read one thing today oh mystical FFG forum mod, let it be this: No re-investment!