I do not yet have Bespin Gambit,but I was watching an unboxing and I saw something that disturbed me. Please tell me that the guy was unboxing a beta or something like that. He was going through the side misssion cards, and I saw that there were no time periods. Are there really no time periods on these missions? FFG has been pretty good at following the story line. But in ESB, Lando tells us that the Empire has no knowledge of Cloud City. Was he lying, or did FFG just blow it?

I can't recall, but Twin Shadows doesn't have a time period either, right?

There are no side missions in the mini campaigns - the missions are fixed, so the campaigns themselves do not need time periods.

The red side missions should not have time periods, otherwise the heroes could not be used in all campaigns.

There are no agenda side missions in the Besbin Gambit agendas. The agenda side missions of the villain packs do not have time periods so they are more versatile.

The Besbin Gambit green and gray side missions do not have time periods either.

I do not yet have Bespin Gambit,but I was watching an unboxing and I saw something that disturbed me. Please tell me that the guy was unboxing a beta or something like that. He was going through the side misssion cards, and I saw that there were no time periods. Are there really no time periods on these missions? FFG has been pretty good at following the story line. But in ESB, Lando tells us that the Empire has no knowledge of Cloud City. Was he lying, or did FFG just blow it?

Actually that's not what Lando said...

Lando: "Well, you see, since we're a small operation, we don't fall into the jurisdiction of the Empire."

Leia: "So you're part of the Mining Guild, then?"

Lando: "No, not actually. Our operation is small enough not to be noticed."

He never said that the Empire had no knowledge of Cloud City. They just don't fall under their Jurisdiction.

It's the Mining Guild that supposedly hasn't really noticed them due to the size of the operation.

Also Lando's leading them into a trap. So why would you assume that everything he's saying is factual?

Thanks for the quote so I don't need to dig it up.

Not being known and not being of strategic importance enough to warrant permanent presence or control (jurisdiction) are two different things.

Okay, I had a feeling that I was remembering wrong.

Thanks for the quote so I don't need to dig it up.

Not being known and not being of strategic importance enough to warrant permanent presence or control (jurisdiction) are two different things.

But like it was previously stated, Lando is already working for the Empire to lead Han and company into a trap with Vader, so nothing he says should be taken too canonically.

Also back to the OP's question, the small campaigns don't have Time Periods because you don't add any side missions into the experience. They are designed as mini-campaigns that can be done in about 4 games.

So in the Core and Hoth, you're playing a Story Mission, which will lead to one of two other Story Missions until the finale, with breaks to pull side missions to gather Allies and other rewards, while the Imperial player does the same.

The mini campaign is a little more linear in that the first mission will lead to one of two outcomes which strings into a specific follow up mission and so on. Bespin has a slight wrinkle with the ISB villain pack because it lets you stick that pack's mission into the Bespin Campaign, but otherwise it's pretty straightforward.

The cards included in the Bespin box are there if you want to run them as Side Missions in other campaigns, which could theoretically lead to the continuity disconnect you were worried about, but as I've reiterated from what was stated above, Lando's commentary on the Empire's dealings with Cloud City are too vague and potentially false to try and worry about it not making sense within the timelines of the larger campaigns that are listed in a specific Time Period.

I haven't read the flavour on the Bespin missions yet, as we're gearing up for that campaign shortly and I'll be on the Rebel side, so I didn't want to spoil the story, but maybe someone that knows better might be able to explain how weird it is to have Han Solo in a Core campaign as an ally you won on the first side mission showing up to run around on Cloud City with Lando in a later side mission.

Note that the Epilogues bind the story together when played as a minicampaign. The flavor text is much shorter when the missions are played as side or agenda side missions, so your own imagination and creativity can be used to fill in the blanks.

I think the OP is talking about why none of the missions at all have time periods. Making it awkward that Lando can fight with the rebellion even before Episode 5.

Well 2 out of the 5 missions are actually hero side missions if played outside of the Bespin mini campaign. So thats those 2. Lando makes appearances in Rebels and potentially Ep 8 & 9(we shall see).

Spoilers:

Also, if you read everything ahead in the mission, Lando is never in danger of getting caught. He uses the heroes. Therefore he can "help" the Rebellion. In ESB he is simply approached by Vader and cant "bargain" his way out of it.

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Well 2 out of the 5 missions are actually hero side missions if played outside of the Bespin mini campaign. So thats those 2. Lando makes appearances in Rebels and potentially Ep 8 & 9(we shall see).

Spoilers:

Also, if you read everything ahead in the mission, Lando is never in danger of getting caught. He uses the heroes. Therefore he can "help" the Rebellion. In ESB he is simply approached by Vader and cant "bargain" his way out of it.

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Since we are getting Obi-wan, Greedo and The Grand Inquisitor characters who all are dead before any of the campaigns start, I think the time lines are getting kinda screwed anyway.

Since we are getting Obi-wan, Greedo and The Grand Inquisitor characters who all are dead before any of the campaigns start, I think the time lines are getting kinda screwed anyway.

Yeah I am curious to see what they do with this. But IMHO, I think people get too obsessed with theme. At it's core its a board game thats wicked fun to play. If the characters don't completely fit the theme 100 percent, its not a big deal for me. I am just excited to have them. Personally, I am excited to see characters like Obi-wan enter the game, and I will allow my group to include him in the campaigns they wish to b/c its fun to play with him. I also hope they add Yoda, and make him wicked awesome, even though it wouldn't make sense from a story perspective.

Perhaps I am too opinionated to make an objective statement, but I think it's a darn pity that FFG went to all the trouble to make sure you couldn't bring Luke and Han back to Hoth, to just throw away time periods in the next expansion! I get that the Lando one is possible, but I'm told that one of the missions has Vader. And there is still no time period!

Vader and Bossk do show up, Lando also runs around killing Wing Guard and tougher-than-Storm-Troopers-Ugnaughts. Now it looks like Greedo will be able to show up in almost mission. They pretty much trashed everything about timelines. I doubt most people even paid attention to them anyway.

They pretty much trashed everything about timelines. I doubt most people even paid attention to them anyway.

I would agree with getting rid of time periods. We aren't playing the main Star Wars story anyway, so who cares.

That being said, none of the Wave 7 spoilers had time periods in the side mission cards. Might be that it wasn't fully decided before the picture was rendered.

Anybody who thinks they should trash time periods should just go to Otah Gunga!

Perhaps I am too opinionated to make an objective statement, but I think it's a darn pity that FFG went to all the trouble to make sure you couldn't bring Luke and Han back to Hoth, to just throw away time periods in the next expansion! I get that the Lando one is possible, but I'm told that one of the missions has Vader. And there is still no time period!

I just assumed Bespin took place just after ESB with Lando coming back to rescue an agent. Vader might still be around, and even if he isn't he could be there at a moment's notice now that he knows where it's at.

I was referring to the side missions, not the mini campaign.

There is nothing wrong here. None of these missions need to have time periods. There is no proof that the ISB couldn't have been occupying Cloud City before EP V, or that Lando couldn't have helped a secret cell of Rebels whose activities were unknown to Leia.

The wing guards are fighting Lando because they were (not all) notoriously corrupt before and even during Landos administration, so just as many wing guard opposed Lando as supported him at different times in his administration.

There is nothing wrong here. None of these missions need to have time periods. There is no proof that the ISB couldn't have been occupying Cloud City before EP V, or that Lando couldn't have helped a secret cell of Rebels whose activities were unknown to Leia.

The wing guards are fighting Lando because they were (not all) notoriously corrupt before and even during Landos administration, so just as many wing guard opposed Lando as supported him at different times in his administration.

I have the expansion now, so I can argue more intelligently now. I'll buy that the ISB is there before Episode V, and I can even buy that Vader and Land could have fought, but the Wing Guards, NO!

As regards your argument, there are probably many NYPD officers who support Mayor DeBlasio, but if he decided one day to start shooting a bunch of 'em who had joined forces with UN Troops, there would probably be some retribution towards him.

The UN are hardly comparable to the Empire, in your example.

More likely is that the cops in your example are a subset of the NYPD composed of crooked cops, and they have sided with a Mafia organization.

The DeBlasio would be cleaning up his city, one dirty Wing Guard at a time!

The UN are hardly comparable to the Empire, in your example.

More likely is that the cops in your example are a subset of the NYPD composed of crooked cops, and they have sided with a Mafia organization.

The DeBlasio would be cleaning up his city, one dirty Wing Guard at a time!

The UN are hardly comparable to the Empire, in your example.

More likely is that the cops in your example are a subset of the NYPD composed of crooked cops, and they have sided with a Mafia organization.

The DeBlasio would be cleaning up his city, one dirty Wing Guard at a time!

I wasn't trying to make things political. And the Hutt Cartel or Black Sun Crime Syndicate are like the Mafia, not the Empire!

I really think we've mixed our metaphors enough here, as I'm very sure you've misunderstood me and pretty sure I've misunderstood you...

I'm gonna play it so the Wing Guards Lando comes up against are corrupt, having sold out to the Empire.