Origins US Nationals Observations
From talking to some of the FFG folks that were there, the lack of promotion for the event was out of their control. Hopefully, next year things are better. It was the first year for the vent here, it has time to grow and improve. I played in both the second day, graduated cut, and the team epic event. Had a great time in all the events.
It is in my back yard, so if it is in town and I have another list I think can compete (go bombers!), I'll participate.
What list were you flying and what did you face?
And how did your opponent fly Dengaroo? Paul thinks it sucks, I disagree. Did you go after Manaroo first or Dengar?
I agree 100%
I would add that if you are going to promote a certain record to the second day, you have to have the format for the final day be so that a couple of those have a reasonable chance at making the next cut.
A little thing would be for them to bring 3x3 press boards for next year, so that the mats don't have the bump in the middle from the two tables.
But overall, I had a good time for my first nationals as well. Been flying for 7 months so it has definitely been a crazy ride and I'm actually looking forward to the gap from now until worlds.
Agree with Hawkstrike, It was fun and enjoyable. The main compliant was side events for those that did not make the Sat games. Those that failed to qualify on Thursday were unable to try to qualify in the Friday event. Without having some side events many of those people did not have events to attend on Friday. I was 3-2 made Sat games, my son was 2-3 missed the Sat, but being unable to re-enter due no re-entries of Friday. We both would have liked either re-entries on Fri or some side events. The people running the event and the players were a pleasure to be with.
Agree with Hawkstrike, It was fun and enjoyable. The main compliant was side events for those that did not make the Sat games. Those that failed to qualify on Thursday were unable to try to qualify in the Friday event. Without having some side events many of those people did not have events to attend on Friday. I was 3-2 made Sat games, my son was 2-3 missed the Sat, but being unable to re-enter due no re-entries of Friday. We both would have liked either re-entries on Fri or some side events. The people running the event and the players were a pleasure to be with.
I have no problem with no re-entries (you already had your chance, and if you played friday you don't get another chance to re-enter, so gives an advantage to people who play thursday if they can try again friday), but they definitely should have had some side events on both fridya and saturday.
What list were you flying and what did you face?
And how did your opponent fly Dengaroo? Paul thinks it sucks, I disagree. Did you go after Manaroo first or Dengar?
I flew a Tala Ordnance Swarm (3 w/ Homing Missles, 1 w/ Concussions) seasoned with a T-70 StressX.
Round 1 was against Triple Imp Aces (Vader, Soontir, Inquisitor). Didn't have too much problem with this as the Homing Missiles are great against the Imp Aces; Soontir had a Hull Upgrade instead of Stealth Device which allowed him t survive a missile hit, but he bumped the next turn and died. I lost one Tala and won 100-18.
Round 2 was against Prockets Jake and Fan Han. Jake got one-shotted by a Homing Missile (Crit to Direct Hit) and I was consistently only getting one damage from Han, preventing Luke + Predator from causing massive damage. My opponent's poor dice plus my missiles killed the Falcon; I didn't lose a ship, 100-0 (my opponent did go on to make the Day 2 cut, though!)
Round 3 was against Dengaroo. Opponent set up in opposite corners and ran Manaroo across the top while Dengar came up the left side. Not wanting to joust Dengar, I went after Manaroo -- and I did *not* know that she passed off red target locks, so I was surprised when I had her locked and close to cornered and *poof* all my locks shifted to Dengar. At that point I should have stayed focused on Manaroo with primaries, but instead chose to follow my locks and turned on Dengar, who killled a Z, Countermeasured another lock away, and chewed me up pretty quickly even when I refused to attack in arc. I got half health off of Dengar, but lost 28-100. Better tactic would have been to either focus on Manaroo exclusively, or try to envelop Dengar. Not sure where my opponent ended the event but with my loss I know he made day 2.
Round 4 was against a Wes/Corran/Biggs list. I chose my initial line of approach poorly and couldn't focus fire on Biggs while Wes stripped target locks. From that point I struggled to get damage into Biggs, who I needed to clear to pop Corran with a missile (some hot dice on my opponent's part, and cold ones on mine didn't help). Wes and Biggs finished the game with one health each and Corran was undamaged; I didn't get a missile off the entire game and lost 0-100. (This player & list made day 2.)
Round 5 was against a Crack Swarm (Howlrunner, Mauler, Scourge, Wampa, 2x Blacks, with 5 of 6 Crack Shots). It opened well for me; at the merge I lost one Tala as my opponent's fire was scattered over multiple ships, but got all four missiles off and killed all three PS 4 TIEs. At that point I made a critical error ... recognizing my opponent would probably K-turn the remaining ships, I forgot to stress my StressX target (which should have been Howlrunner, but I shot Scourge), which allowed my opponent to continue to focus fire. From that point we traded hits, to my detriment ... I ended up in a Core set battle with a fresh Howlrunner & Mauler against a wounded StressX. I killed Howlrunner finally, then we ended up with the last two ships facing each other at range one ... hit & two crits from the TIE with no evades stripped my lA and last two hull, and with lower PS I couldn't fire back. Lost 82-100 and my tournament ended, though my opponent moved on to day 2.
Why did Nationals use a graduated cut that isn't detailed in the official regs document? I hope they update it to allow regionals to do something similar next season.
Origins judge here. First, thanks for the compliment! I tend to agonize over my TO calls. I don't want it to be my mistake that causes someone to have a bad time. The player and judge interaction at this event was top notch.
I think my only disagreement with you is the side event comment. We had a hanger bay event on Wednesday. Granted, I understand not all people could get that many days off. We only had 2 X-Wing TOs (outside of FFG staff) for the 5 days. Handling any additional side events would have been impossible. Sure they could have more volunteers, but volunteers aren't free though the word "volunteer" would suggest otherwise. There was a weak turn out on Wednesday and Thursday so more events on those days would be a little unnecessary.
I think a couple hanger bays on Saturday would have been good for players who didn't make the cut. Again, an extra volunteer would be needed. We were able to break away 1 TO to do the Epic event after the graduated cut. Unfortunately not everyone brings 300 points of ships to jump over to that event or cares to play epic at all.
I think the event structure was fairly solid for a con the size of origins and the turnout that we had. Could things be tweaked a bit for gencon or origins next year? Sure. We'll see when the time comes.
Why did Nationals use a graduated cut that isn't detailed in the official regs document? I hope they update it to allow regionals to do something similar next season.
This structure was described in the "organized play by play" articles that they but out a little while ago.
Round 2 was against Prockets Jake and Fan Han. Jake got one-shotted by a Homing Missile (Crit to Direct Hit) and I was consistently only getting one damage from Han, preventing Luke + Predator from causing massive damage. My opponent's poor dice plus my missiles killed the Falcon; I didn't lose a ship, 100-0 (my opponent did go on to make the Day 2 cut, though!)
I had a good time playing you though. Out of the three matches that I lost Jake, two of them were crit into direct hit.
Bummed that you didn't make the cut. That looked like a fun list to fly.
Why did Nationals use a graduated cut that isn't detailed in the official regs document? I hope they update it to allow regionals to do something similar next season.
This structure was described in the "organized play by play" articles that they but out a little while ago.
That's not the same as being an allowable format for Regionals. If it's not in the tournament regs or the accompanying documentation in the Regional kit, we can't do it.
I agree with hawkstrike on all he said. I had a great time I would like to see this game get bigger with more streaming added and extra events. I wanted to see the epic game but it just wasn't something I could make happen. I do like the idea of an epic game after all we all have the ships gaining dust on our shelves. Maybe some kind of large game going where people can join in as the weekend goes on, ships get destroyed then get added at the board edge or something like that. I do understand it takes people to run these events and that takes money but a suggestion.
I thought the judging was good it's hard I know to staff these events and I thought they did a great job.
I had a great time and would come back next year, and so should you if you didn't go.