IG-88 crew

By FourDogsInaHorseSuit, in X-Wing Rules Questions

Let's say that ig-88 the crew says that the equipped ship has the ability of every other ship equipped with the ig-2000 Title.

Now imagine you have a YV-666 equipped with this crew, a heavy laser cannon, and gunner.

Also IG-88B is in your squad.

Everyone follow?

Now the YV-666 shoots, and misses. Does it, under the above circumstances get to follow the attack up with both triggers from IG-88B to fire the HLC and then still use the original miss to fire again with gunner? This works regardless of if the HLC attack hit because the gunner trigger you're using is from the original attack?

If you resolve the IG88B trigger first, yes I don't see any reason you could not do that, there is nothing in the rules or FAQ that say that an attack break the trigger chain...

If you resolve the Gunner first then, to bad for you, because the gunner prevent you from doing further attack.

Yup, hypothetically you could miss with any attack, miss with a cannon attack, and then... hopefully not miss off the gunner's primary attack.

The main thing here is that when you have equipment that triggers at the same time (in this case, a miss) you can choose the order that they resolve to your liking.

Edited by Mozic

Moralo with ig gunner bossk engine. Alongside igb and add igc for epic games. Yeah...

This all depends on whether or not you feel the "immediately" on Gunner means anything...

Edited by Rawling

This all depends on whether or not you feel the "immediately" on Gunner means anything...

It does matter! As does the "you may" that was added to the card. So "you may" elect to not exhaust gunner after your first attack, and then "immediately" activate gunner following the second miss off of your equipped cannon. :)

This all depends on whether or not you feel the "immediately" on Gunner means anything...

It does matter! As does the "you may" that was added to the card. So "you may" elect to not exhaust gunner after your first attack, and then "immediately" activate gunner following the second miss off of your equipped cannon. :)

Oh yeah, if you miss your regular attack, don't trigger Gunner, trigger IG, miss that attack, trigger Gunner and make another attack, that's definitely fine.

I think people in here are hoping you can miss your regular attack, trigger IG and Gunner, hit with IG and then make the Gunner attack.

This all depends on whether or not you feel the "immediately" on Gunner means anything...

It does matter! As does the "you may" that was added to the card. So "you may" elect to not exhaust gunner after your first attack, and then "immediately" activate gunner following the second miss off of your equipped cannon. :)

Oh yeah, if you miss your regular attack, don't trigger Gunner, trigger IG, miss that attack, trigger Gunner and make another attack, that's definitely fine.

I think people in here are hoping you can miss your regular attack, trigger IG and Gunner, hit with IG and then make the Gunner attack.

Oh! No, in that case you're right on the money and the gunner's "no more shots" and dependency on a miss would make success with the gunner or the IG-88B an "either-or" scenario where you'd always want to leave gunner for last.

Has the IG-88 card been fully revealed? Or are we having a hypothetical question for something that we have no idea what may actually do?

Has the IG-88 card been fully revealed? Or are we having a hypothetical question for something that we have no idea what may actually do?

Hypothetical to the max. I wish they'd reveal that one just to save me a headache.

This all depends on whether or not you feel the "immediately" on Gunner means anything...

It does matter! As does the "you may" that was added to the card. So "you may" elect to not exhaust gunner after your first attack, and then "immediately" activate gunner following the second miss off of your equipped cannon. :)

Since the immediately matters, you never acquire a target lock with FCS before taking your second shot with Gunner do you?

This all depends on whether or not you feel the "immediately" on Gunner means anything...

It does matter! As does the "you may" that was added to the card. So "you may" elect to not exhaust gunner after your first attack, and then "immediately" activate gunner following the second miss off of your equipped cannon. :)

Since the immediately matters, you never acquire a target lock with FCS before taking your second shot with Gunner do you?

You certainly can! FCS and Gunner share an identical trigger, which is "after performing an attack" (that does not hit, in Gunner's case). The "you get to pick the resolution order" thing comes into effect here. The immediately really just means that you lose the opportunity if you do anything else other than resolve other "after performing an attack" type cards.

The reason I say this is primarily that gunner/bossk is a known working combo, and they share trigger conditions as well.

Since the immediately matters, you never acquire a target lock with FCS before taking your second shot with Gunner do you?

Can't say I've used that combo, but given the text on the cards and no precedent, I'd not expect it to work.

Edited by Rawling

This all depends on whether or not you feel the "immediately" on Gunner means anything...

It does matter! As does the "you may" that was added to the card. So "you may" elect to not exhaust gunner after your first attack, and then "immediately" activate gunner following the second miss off of your equipped cannon. :)

Since the immediately matters, you never acquire a target lock with FCS before taking your second shot with Gunner do you?

You certainly can! FCS and Gunner share an identical trigger, which is "after performing an attack" (that does not hit, in Gunner's case). The "you get to pick the resolution order" thing comes into effect here. The immediately really just means that you lose the opportunity if you do anything else other than resolve other "after performing an attack" type cards.

The reason I say this is primarily that gunner/bossk is a known working combo, and they share trigger conditions as well.

Right, if Gunner+FCS or Gunner+Bossk works, immediately doesn't carry any real meaning.

Pretend that neither Gunner or the IG-88B ability had the "You cannot perform another attack this round" bit. The "immediately" in Gunner wouldn't stop you from completely resolving the IG-88B ability (and all of its resulting triggers) before coming back to resolve Gunner.

Since the immediately matters, you never acquire a target lock with FCS before taking your second shot with Gunner do you?

Can't say I've used that combo, but given the text on the cards and no precedent, I'd not expect it to work.

The combo works. It's even called out in the FAQ as working. It's the interaction that is used on the Buzzsaw Shuttle and Buzzsaw Phantom builds.

I was using it as an example of "immediately" not actually meaning "immediately":

The combo works. It's even called out in the FAQ as working. It's the interaction that is used on the Buzzsaw Shuttle and Buzzsaw Phantom builds.

I was using it as an example of "immediately" not actually meaning "immediately":

Oh yeah, I know everyone knows it works. Just saying I wouldn't have expected it to without that precedent, and TBH I'd be happy to lose it if it also meant cutting down on triple-attack shenanigans.

I'd certainly be of the opinion that by current raw and assuming igb isn't subject to errata, igb, gunner, and bossk all share the same timing, so you could resolve them in any order, and potentially slip another trigger of bossk in between. I hadn't thought of it that way but it does seem to work...