hey guys,

just shedding a small tear for a series of forgotten upgrades (mostly crew now that I think about it) that could've been amazing, but are sadly so corner case (and old) by now that they'll probably just never see play

maybe the dream scenario will happen and ffg erratas these guys or maybe you'll use them in a custom league. I just feel the need to vent before I get too sad

1. Bombardier

always leery when you have to pay extra points to have an upgrade not be worthless. Bombadier without bombs does literally nothing, but you're still paying for it! You'd think they'd learn from Slave 1

seems the only acceptable card of this type is extra munitions, wherein you NEED to pay for munitions to get any use out of the card but it actually gives you value in return

this perhaps makes me the most sad of any other upgrade, because I love bombs

wish it had:

1.) 0 point cost, though sabine probably means it'd still never see use in rebels

2.) in addition to the card text,

"When you equip this card, place 1 ordnance token on it. When you are instructed to discard a Bomb upgrade card, you may discard 1 ordnance token on this card instead."

2. Saboteur

this guy is a game design nightmare

costs points, eats your action, probably does nothing; can do jack **** EVEN when it does work. It's a labyrinthine nightmare of horrible RNG stacked on RNG, assuming you have any targets for it in the first place!

wish it had:

After executing a maneuver, choose 1 enemy ship you are touching and flip 1 random facedown Damage card assigned to that ship faceup. Resolve that card immediately.

1 point

it'd sure as hell make oicuun even more hilarious

lastly. Chopper

okay, not nearly as bad as the other two and actually pretty interesting

just sad they didn't take inspiration from some of the more interesting scenes in the show

wish it was:

After executing a maneuver, you may choose 1 enemy ship you are touching and flip 1 upgrade card assigned to that ship face down.

If you do, at the beginning of the end phase, flip that same card face up. (for game balance purposes)

3/4 points

wish it was (v 2):

ACTION: choose 1 enemy ship at Range 1 that you are not touching. You may suffer one damage to assign a Weapons Disabled token to that ship and to yourself.

? points

okay that's off my chest

back to your possibly productive evening, gents!

Funkleton's wish that will never come to pass:

BTL-S3 Title

adds an entirely new upgrade slot to the Y-Wing that is a bit like a crew slot but not actually a crew slot (because there's a few potentially broken combos if that comes to pass)

A double K-wing bomb list made the cut at Naboo. In Swiss, I saw a game vs Palp Aces where a bombardier assisted Connor Net drop sent the shuttle off the board.

I'd have been happy if Bombardier let you use either 1-bank template instead of the 1-straight.

A mini-Emon, rather than 'stretch a little bit further'. For 1 point, it'd be enough.

My biggest wish is that the Sabine card had been Scum. C'mon, it's such a scummy card to sneak bombs on your ship, and imagine the glory that Emon Azameen would've been! (Though six-bombs-a-game K-wings are funny too, I guess.)

I actually wish the Bombardier was using bank templates, too. I've rarely found need to stretch it out further, but a clip to one side or the other is often desired. I think that'd make bombs a smidge more useful, too.

Princess Leia. Never seen anyone play her. ever.

Bombadier paired with Sabine is finding a home on double bombing K-Wing lists. As mentioned above, there was a list at Naboo that performed really well. There was also another list at a regional this past weekend that was running a Warden and Miranda kitted out with bombs. Sabine and Bombadier present in that list, also.

I'd have been happy if Bombardier let you use either 1-bank template instead of the 1-straight.

A mini-Emon, rather than 'stretch a little bit further'. For 1 point, it'd be enough.

My biggest wish is that the Sabine card had been Scum. C'mon, it's such a scummy card to sneak bombs on your ship, and imagine the glory that Emon Azameen would've been! (Though six-bombs-a-game K-wings are funny too, I guess.)

oh my that'd be so troll; I'd love it!

Bombadier paired with Sabine is finding a home on double bombing K-Wing lists. As mentioned above, there was a list at Naboo that performed really well. There was also another list at a regional this past weekend that was running a Warden and Miranda kitted out with bombs. Sabine and Bombadier present in that list, also.

while I love love LOVE the fact that my favorite ship and tactic can do well in some capacity, that's still a very corner case

I feel bombardier is a bit of a wasted opportunity in its design

stuff like this makes me sad too

http://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Rebel%20Alliance&d=v4!s!139:135,126,-1,-1,166,24,-1:-1:-1:U.-1;142:-1,126,-1,-1,139,138,-1:-1:16:;4:-1,77:-1:20:&sn=one%20gore-am%20point!

I think the M3 title should have been 0 Points.

A Negative points would have been better but I would be happy with 0.

Fel's Wrath seems to exist in the game just so people can make jokes about Fel's Wrath.

Fel's Wrath seems to exist in the game just so people can make jokes about Fel's Wrath.

Fel's Wrath has been balanced ever since his name has become synonymous with x-wing forum necro

My biggest wish is that the Sabine card had been Scum. C'mon, it's such a scummy card to sneak bombs on your ship, and imagine the glory that Emon Azameen would've been!

Depending on how the illicit SLAM card from Heroes of the Resistance works, you might have an even glorious bomb chucking maniac. Give him advanced SLAM to drop mines after the SLAM!

Saboteur... I can't believe I don't hear about people using this with the emperor.

Saboteur... I can't believe I don't hear about people using this with the emperor.

that's because the emperor sits like this

no room in the shuttle

Princess Leia. Never seen anyone play her. ever.

Princess Leia. Never seen anyone play her. ever.

to your point - when I read this I had to google the card to see what she did as I had (literally) forgotten she was in the game.

She's pretty awesome in Epic. In theory.

Fel's Wrath: Enemy ships within range 1 of you must attack you, if able.

It's got the bodyguard part of his lore down pat... and also the fact he's meant to explode messily.

Saboteur... I can't believe I don't hear about people using this with the emperor.

that's because the emperor sits like this

no room in the shuttle

3 shuttles with baffles and Anti-pursuit lasers, 2 with saboteurs, one with the Emperor. Then Wampa for good measure!

Massive traffic jams causing damage, Wampa skipping damage straight through shields, and saboteurs throwing gasoline on all the fires!

Saboteur... I can't believe I don't hear about people using this with the emperor.

Because it still wastes your action, still eats up a precious crew slot, and if we're being honest it still doesn't do all that much even when it does work. The only difference is that now you're potentially wasting the Emperor on it, as well.

Palp/saboteur decimator....wampa...colzet...

Spread the critacular good times in a few ways.

Put him in the decimator

Chopper idea is comical. "Bump. You cant use Autothrustors this round" lol

Dumping your action to essentially nerf one of their cards for a turn doesnt sound broken at all. For 0pts, yeah kinda strong, but probably a 2pt'r since you could really tick people off. Often people will pop Glitterstim once they bump because they know theyre about to be hammered... well... "Bump. You cant use glitterstim this round" lol TAKE THAT DENGAR!!

Princess Leia. Never seen anyone play her. ever.

https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Rebel%20Alliance&d=v4!s!158:43,-1,-1,-1,87,-1:25:3:;161:18,-1,166:-1:-1:U.138&sn=Unnamed%20Squadron

AS Boost (1 bank)

White 5k from VCX deploy phantom

Deploy Phantom

White 4k, Deploy bomb

opponent runs in to turn 1 bomb. lose the game, because thats the whole gimmick. or win the game because the opponent so furious that he got turn 1 bombed on soontir fel that he slams the table and losses by DQ

They should errata the Saboteur. Instead of "Action: Choose...", it should say "At the beginning of the combat phase, choose...".

Then it still costs 2 points, a crew, and you still have to roll for it to work. But it doesn't take your action, and you could do it every turn. Sounds more balanced. To make it competitive, you'd probably have to remove the rolling as well.

Im perfectly fine with random effects long as they DONT take actions to do so.

Nothing pisses me off more than getting a nasty crit that takes an action to remove, only to never get the **** roll on the action oh but i sure as hell roll it for the damage when that comes into effect.

Actions in this game are a resource that depending on the ship can be gamebreaking if you rob it from them. Probably the only ships i'd say its not that big a deal on are Z95s and Decimators, and even they would prefer to have a focus than nothing lol

3 shuttles with baffles and Anti-pursuit lasers, 2 with saboteurs, one with the Emperor. Then Wampa for good measure!

Massive traffic jams causing damage, Wampa skipping damage straight through shields, and saboteurs throwing gasoline on all the fires!

That sounds amazing!

That K-wing walking Palp off the board was such a cool thing to see in action. Initially, I really questioned the move as I expected a 1 straight, but then the bank was revealed!