2016 Nationals Results

By MajorJuggler, in X-Wing

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I'm really disappointed that someone should refer to it as "only the Dutch Nationals" in what appears to be a derogatory way. I hope that wasn't the intention but unfortunately that's how it read to me.

I'm sure the winner and indeed all the top players in Swiss had to fly well to get to that top 8 cut.

The meta is whatever the meta is, wherever you play. There are differences in Europe from the US that's very clear, but let's not get to the stage of running down events in other countries because they are different to our own perceived meta, as a community we are surely better than that.

Your response is much nicer and more eloquent than anything I was thinking of responding with for those two idiots.

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Wish there was a place with all the results and links to videos, so there would be no need to search within the thread... :) I envy everyone, who can attend such amazing events. Here nothing happends - there's like 8 players in my biggest town in the country xD

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I'm really disappointed that someone should refer to it as "only the Dutch Nationals" in what appears to be a derogatory way. I hope that wasn't the intention but unfortunately that's how it read to me.

I'm sure the winner and indeed all the top players in Swiss had to fly well to get to that top 8 cut.

The meta is whatever the meta is, wherever you play. There are differences in Europe from the US that's very clear, but let's not get to the stage of running down events in other countries because they are different to our own perceived meta, as a community we are surely better than that.

I would like to second this. At Yavin, i played three of the Dutch guys who had come over for the event. One of them (who was in the top four here actually) was the only player to beat me, and the other two were also seriously good players. I believe two of them also made the top 8 cut (at a 400+ person event). These guys take the game very seriously and are some of the best players in the world. To belittle their national tournament, and/or their choice of lists shows how little knowledge you have about the world and this game.

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At Yavin, i played three of the Dutch guys who had come over for the event. One of them (who was in the top four here actually) was the only player to beat me, and the other two were also seriously good players. I believe two of them also made the top 8 cut (at a 400+ person event). These guys take the game very seriously and are some of the best players in the world. To belittle their national tournament, and/or their choice of lists shows how little knowledge you have about the world and this game.

Ah I think you played me then! What list did you play again?

We did very well at Yavin. We went there with 8 or 9 guys, of which 4 made the second day, of which 2 made the top 8, I was 10th, and the other one was still in the top32. And at the Kopenhagen Open Series I and another Dutch guy made the cut as welI. think I can safely say our level of play is on par with the rest of the world.

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Congratulations to everyone who didn't take a Jumpmaster or Palpatine to their national champs. You are the true heroes and probably the better players.

Increasingly, I find myself not really caring who finished top as It seems it is usually going to be won by a broken netlist list with a low skill floor and a player who won the initiative/dice off in the mirror matches.

Tried watching some streams but got bored with the card games and fell asleep. Wake me up when someone fixes this nonsense.

so those who took Jumpmasters or Palpatine are not as good as the other "better" players out there?

what nonsense is this?

send someone who are not as good with a netlist that wins most tournaments out there and it won't guarantee that person will be unstoppable. have we all not played this game enough that on any match day it depends on your flying, match up, dice rolls etc

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I'm really disappointed that someone should refer to it as "only the Dutch Nationals" in what appears to be a derogatory way. I hope that wasn't the intention but unfortunately that's how it read to me.

I'm sure the winner and indeed all the top players in Swiss had to fly well to get to that top 8 cut.

The meta is whatever the meta is, wherever you play. There are differences in Europe from the US that's very clear, but let's not get to the stage of running down events in other countries because they are different to our own perceived meta, as a community we are surely better than that.

I would like to second this. At Yavin, i played three of the Dutch guys who had come over for the event. One of them (who was in the top four here actually) was the only player to beat me, and the other two were also seriously good players. I believe two of them also made the top 8 cut (at a 400+ person event). These guys take the game very seriously and are some of the best players in the world. To belittle their national tournament, and/or their choice of lists shows how little knowledge you have about the world and this game.

Fun fact: for all the jumpmasters haters out there, after taking top 8 at Yavin with Jumpmasters I took first and second place with palp aces at the following regionals. At the nationals I finished 1 after swiss but lost my top 8 match due to a rules oversight. But maybe Palp aces is another "no skill list".

The jumpmaster equals no skill argument is getting old. Or maybe I should say the "you not playing what I play equals no skill" argument.

Back to lurking :) .

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I'm really disappointed that someone should refer to it as "only the Dutch Nationals" in what appears to be a derogatory way. I hope that wasn't the intention but unfortunately that's how it read to me.

I'm sure the winner and indeed all the top players in Swiss had to fly well to get to that top 8 cut.

The meta is whatever the meta is, wherever you play. There are differences in Europe from the US that's very clear, but let's not get to the stage of running down events in other countries because they are different to our own perceived meta, as a community we are surely better than that.

I would like to second this. At Yavin, i played three of the Dutch guys who had come over for the event. One of them (who was in the top four here actually) was the only player to beat me, and the other two were also seriously good players. I believe two of them also made the top 8 cut (at a 400+ person event). These guys take the game very seriously and are some of the best players in the world. To belittle their national tournament, and/or their choice of lists shows how little knowledge you have about the world and this game.

Hey Pattison, I am the dutch guy who you played in the last round of swiss at Yavin! Yes, two of us made top 8 and three of us top 10.

Fun fact: for all the jumpmasters haters out there, after taking top 8 at Yavin with Jumpmasters I took first and second place with palp aces at the following regionals. At the nationals I finished 1 after swiss but lost my top 8 match due to a rules oversight. But maybe Palp aces is another "no skill list".

The jumpmaster equals no skill argument is getting old. Or maybe I should say the "you not playing what I play equals no skill" argument.

Back to lurking :) .

that was a terrifying, terrifying game. honestly, refusing that ID was really, really hard. i remember in the second or third turn i was so nervous i was knocking my ships over and you said to me 'you could have avoided all this' and i was screaming inside. i was very glad you made it in anyway!

At Yavin, i played three of the Dutch guys who had come over for the event. One of them (who was in the top four here actually) was the only player to beat me, and the other two were also seriously good players. I believe two of them also made the top 8 cut (at a 400+ person event). These guys take the game very seriously and are some of the best players in the world. To belittle their national tournament, and/or their choice of lists shows how little knowledge you have about the world and this game.

Ah I think you played me then! What list did you play again?

We did very well at Yavin. We went there with 8 or 9 guys, of which 4 made the second day, of which 2 made the top 8, I was 10th, and the other one was still in the top32. And at the Kopenhagen Open Series I and another Dutch guy made the cut as welI. think I can safely say our level of play is on par with the rest of the world.

heh, i won it, playing the seven tie swarm. The entire 186th Squadron have a healthy respect for you guys, i can assure you.

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Wish there was a place with all the results and links to videos, so there would be no need to search within the thread... :) I envy everyone, who can attend such amazing events. Here nothing happends - there's like 8 players in my biggest town in the country xD

I'm behind, but I'll eventually update the front page.

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heh, i won it, playing the seven tie swarm. The entire 186th Squadron have a healthy respect for you guys, i can assure you.

Ah then we did not play, only had a chat. The guy that beat you won our nationals ;)

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Malaysian Nationals

Winner

Palp Reinforced Deflectors

Ryad Adaptability X7 MK.II

Jax PTL Auto Shield Upgrade

Top Two

Delta X7

Ryad PTL X7 MK.II

Vessery Juke X7 MK.II

Top Four

Torkil TLT Recon

Palob Autoblaster Moldy

Boosk Attani Zuckuss 4-LOM

Tel Trevura

Zuckuss

Palob ICT

The Malaysian Nationals lists can be viewed at List Juggler http://lists.starwarsclubhouse.com/get_tourney_details?tourney_id=2078

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Anyone have the lists for the top cut for Germany, France, or Poland?

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Anyone have the lists for the top cut for Germany, France, or Poland?

In France, as best as I can remember without consulting anything, the lists were:

Winner (me)

Vessery, Ryad and a Glaive, all with crack shot and X7

Runner up

Dalarisse

Palp shuttle

Soontir PtL, AT, SD and title

Inquisitor PtL, AT, title and PR

Top 4

Raphael

Palp shuttle

Inquisitor PtL, AT, title and PR

Ryad PtL, TMkII and X7

Zapata

IG-88 B&C with AT, title, HLC, CS, FCS and GS

Top 8 (here is where I start to forget details)

Dengaroo

Uboats

Han/bomber K

Palp aces with inquisitor and Soontir (funny fact: this list lost the mirror match in a final salvo after exchanging shuttles)

Top 16

Uboats x2, Dengaroo, Dengar/Tel and 3 more lists that escape me.

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Anyone have the lists for the top cut for Germany, France, or Poland?

In France, as best as I can remember without consulting anything, the lists were:

Winner (me)

Vessery, Ryad and a Glaive, all with crack shot and X7

Runner up

Dalarisse

Palp shuttle

Soontir PtL, AT, SD and title

Inquisitor PtL, AT, title and PR

Top 4

Raphael

Palp shuttle

Inquisitor PtL, AT, title and PR

Ryad PtL, TMkII and X7

Zapata

IG-88 B&C with AT, title, HLC, CS, FCS and GS

Top 8 (here is where I start to forget details)

Dengaroo

Uboats

Han/bomber K

Palp aces with inquisitor and Soontir (funny fact: this list lost the mirror match in a final salvo after exchanging shuttles)

Top 16

Uboats x2, Dengaroo, Dengar/Tel and 3 more lists that escape me.

Thank you!!

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Czech/Slovakia Nationals final is going on. No stream tho.

Lists are....

4 rebel TLT vs. 3 scum TLT + bumpmaster

1/2 final was:

4 rebel TLT defeated 2 k-wing bombers

3 TLT+ bumpmaster defeated Palob, Manaroo, Party bus

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Czech/Slovakia Nationals final is going on. No stream tho.

Lists are....

4 rebel TLT vs. 3 scum TLT + bumpmaster

1/2 final was:

4 rebel TLT defeated 2 k-wing bombers

3 TLT+ bumpmaster defeated Palob, Manaroo, Party bus

Rebel list is not true 4 TLT:

Y-wing TLT

Y-wing TLT

Y-wing dorsal stress hog

HWK TLT with Chewbacca and Moldy Crow

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How is it going?

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They circle around asteroids. No shots were exchanged yet.

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They circle around asteroids. No shots were exchanged yet.

And here I thought it would be a gut-wrenching match.

*sarcasm*

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Surprisingly rebels have won :)

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It seems TLT meta stands still in our country and our closest European neighborhood. I've lost to 3xTLT+Biggs myself on the tournament...

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I corrected a mistake on Louis' List ;)

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It seems TLT meta stands still in our country and our closest European neighborhood. I've lost to 3xTLT+Biggs myself on the tournament...

TLTs worried me more than U-Boats in the tournament.

Still the lists were fairly diverse (despite the number of x7 defenders on the tables) :D ?

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It seems TLT meta stands still in our country and our closest European neighborhood. I've lost to 3xTLT+Biggs myself on the tournament...

I had a lucky break against it with Triple Defenders but it was a hard match.

TLTs worried me more than U-Boats in the tournament.

Still the lists were fairly diverse (despite the number of x7 defenders on the tables) :D ?

I don't think that's really diverse. Lots of little variation but mostly Palp lists, Jumpmasters and X7s.