Why not give a title that works the same as for Tie Advance but on everything. First 5 points on T-65 is free. If that is "unbalanced" then equip 1 torpedo for free. T-65 needs that little extra now. No one plays with T-65 accept with Biggs and rarely Wes and Wedge. Do it FFG. Do it.

Of all the topics that appear on roughly a weekly basis, this one seems to be taking the spot as the most consistent.

No.

Having won a tournament in april with a red squadron pilot, and going 4-1 with a list based on Garven Dreis - I think competitively, while a lot of ships are pushed out by ordnance alpha strikes - the x-wing with IA is a pretty solid chassis.

This is the dumbest "fix" I've ever seen.

Cause Wedge getting PtL + BB-8 for free can't possibly go wrong.

For its points, is that so bad? Not a fan of the but it's not to bad. Maybe cost it a point.

I want to see the hero's expansion before doing a free clump of points though

As a lover of the T-65, no. No no no no 100000000x no. The T-65 has a fair share of problems, and people will argue 1000 ways to fix it, and the truth is it only needs one of these. If you have ever flown a tankier X-Wing with a barrel roll or boost, then you know how good repositioning is on them. There are other options sure, and they are a bit overcoats for what they are, but with integrated Astromech they aren't so bad, all they need is a little more power, but a bump like that would push them into game breaking territory. I don't want a broken X-Wing, I want one that is strong, but the X-Wing is meant to be a mult-role fighter, and with the right upgrades it can fill a variety of rolls. Admittedly some of these options are overcosted in my opinion, but there are better ways. I think the royal guard title would work better personally, as it would make integrated an auto take unless you wanted Autothrusters. But a 5 point reduction? No way, sorry. The ship needs a minor boost, not an overhaul.

As a lover of the T-65, no. No no no no 100000000x no. The T-65 has a fair share of problems, and people will argue 1000 ways to fix it, and the truth is it only needs one. If you have ever flown a tanker X-Wing with a barrel roll or boost, then you know how good repositioning is on them. There are other options sure, and they are a bit overcoats for what they are, but with integrated Astromech they aren't so bad, all they need is a little more power, but a bump like that would push them into game breaking territory. I don't want a broken X-Wing, I want one that is strong, but the X-Wing is meant to be a mult-role fighter, and with the right upgrades it can fill a variety of rolls. Admittedly some of these options are overcosted in my opinion, but there are better ways. I think the royal guard title would work better personally, as it would make integrated an auto take unless you wanted Autothrusters. But a 5 point reduction? No way, sorry.

As a lover of the T-65, no. No no no no 100000000x no. The T-65 has a fair share of problems, and people will argue 1000 ways to fix it, and the truth is it only needs one. If you have ever flown a tanker X-Wing with a barrel roll or boost, then you know how good repositioning is on them. There are other options sure, and they are a bit overcoats for what they are, but with integrated Astromech they aren't so bad, all they need is a little more power, but a bump like that would push them into game breaking territory. I don't want a broken X-Wing, I want one that is strong, but the X-Wing is meant to be a mult-role fighter, and with the right upgrades it can fill a variety of rolls. Admittedly some of these options are overcosted in my opinion, but there are better ways. I think the royal guard title would work better personally, as it would make integrated an auto take unless you wanted Autothrusters. But a 5 point reduction? No way, sorry.

This is why we don't do things on a mobile ^^^^ sorry for that, tried to fix it made it worse

T-65s just took a regional and have been placing high all tournament season and you want to give them a less restrictive version of the same boost given to the most infamously underpowered ship in the history of the game? Sure that makes total sense.

How do you really feel, BlueMusketeer28?

Why not give a title that works the same as for Tie Advance but on everything. First 5 points on T-65 is free. If that is "unbalanced" then equip 1 torpedo for free. T-65 needs that little extra now. No one plays with T-65 accept with Biggs and rarely Wes and Wedge. Do it FFG. Do it.

You need to refine your suggestion other than -5 points on a unique title. I am in favor of unique titles for the T-65 X-wing but to be honest I want several unique titles each one to be viable in its own right not just one good one and 4 will never see play. Also it would be nice to have some theme.

Example Red 5 <torpedo upgrades cost 2 less to equip> When attacking with a <torpedo> weapon you may reroll any <focus> results. 0 points

Or Red 2. If you were to take damage greater than your hull value discard all damage cards and deal 2 face down damage cards. If you have no stress tokens gain one stress. 0 points.

The biggest problem is that these upgrades have to be put in with another expansion set that has T-65 X-wings those ships and since we already got 3 sets (classic core, X-wing expansion, Rebel Transport) with T-65 X-wing and another 3 sets with T-70 X-wing (TFA Core, T-70 X-wing Expansion, upcoming heroes of the resistance). It will be some time.

Hey FFG, how about a battle for Yavin set?

Again sorry about that.. Honestly if it weren't for all of the talk about it and the T-70 showing up, I would feel the X-Wing is only slightly underpowered... I've been very successful with it. I was planning on playing Dash and Ys originally but fell in love with that little ship after a while. It takes some fancy flying, but it can do some serious work on the table.

Cause Wedge getting PtL + BB-8 for free can't possibly go wrong.

For its points, is that so bad? Not a fan of the but it's not to bad. Maybe cost it a point.

I want to see the hero's expansion before doing a free clump of points though

Wave 9 promises some repositioning with the mod in the ARC.

And a simple cost reduction? It's soooooo.... unimaginative.

As is giving it a boost action.

https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/topic/221901-biggs-corran-and-wes-win-utah/

Where will this anti meta list be when the meta changes? The trash bin. Don't get to distracted by it.

Also, it's awesome it happened.

Once again, the forum proves that they are horrible designers.

Dude, 5 whole points?

2 at most.

I'll remind everyone of my idea of a torpedo upgrade that costs -2, putting X-Wings at 19 and allowing for you to fly 5 of them with IA. Response was typically of two varieties:

1. Stupidly simple and derivative, but could work.

or

2. Holy snap, that's broken! 5 X wings! HAX!!!

I think this just goes to show that it only needs a slight "boost" (as Alex Davy said it *wink wink*).

Too much and it's over-powered. I think a title giving it a boost action is the most likely outcome.

How about a seasonal handicap instead that balances the points without having to wait years for a card that will need rebalancing again when the meta shifts again.

I'll remind everyone of my idea of a torpedo upgrade that costs -2, putting X-Wings at 19 and allowing for you to fly 5 of them with IA. Response was typically of two varieties:

1. Stupidly simple and derivative, but could work.

or

2. Holy snap, that's broken! 5 X wings! HAX!!!

I think this just goes to show that it only needs a slight "boost" (as Alex Davy said it *wink wink*).

Too much and it's over-powered. I think a title giving it a boost action is the most likely outcome.

No we don't need another chardan refit. Missiles have been taken out of A-wings altogether because of that. You would now see missiles only on Z-95s or TIE Advanceds (both kinds). They were rarely seen much before Aces already now they are gone from the rebels inventory.

Sure a 2 point discount wouldn't hurt the X-wing, but I would prefer to see an upgrade that gives the T-65 X-wing a 2 point discount AND makes use of the <torpedo> upgrade slot. Sounds like a perfect title for a Red 5 unique upgrade. Something along those lines.

Perhaps a droid.

"Once per round, when you acquire a target lock, you may assign one evade token to your ship."

An evade token roughly equals 1 shield, that is worth 4 points.

This allows the X-Wing to mitigate more damage during a game than Integrated Astromech could do by itself.

Moreover, this makes the X-Wing viable even without Integrated Astromech, allowing it to equip Guidance Chips, Vectored Thrusters or other valuable mods. Or Integrated Astromech for even more tankiness.

Also, this would allow the T-70 to make use of the Comm Relay, and the Y-Wing and E-Wing to gain extra durability in this time of alpha strikes.

Finally call it R3 Astromech and pack it with the ARC-170, along with an Evade token. Add two copies of it, as this is supposed to be a "fix".

I think right now x-wings are in a similar position to most ships.

There's a few that work well or can be made to work well and a bunch of others that aren't particularly competitive.

And I'm fine with that in the same way that most of us dont have a problem with the fact that only generic B-Wings see much table time or you rarely see named A-Wings (except Jake).

At worst the x-wing just needs the faintest tickle of a boost to toughen it up and capitalise on the IA mod.

Maybe a 0 point generic astromech that allows you to flip a blank green or red to a focus once per round or something

Edit - come to think of it that would make a rather neat double-sided card.

One side allows you to flip a blank to a focus on offensive rolls - the other on defense rolls - giving you additional tactical options depending on what you're facing.

Gives a nice boost to Garven as he'll always be able to get some added value from his ability ( no more spending focus to convert zero eyeballs)

Luke becomes a big fat beast

And it won't do any harm to generics who move early and rarely lose actions.

Ya, I love the T-65 but 5 free points is a bit OTT.

My dream T-65 title would be a dual card. If it's a multi-role fighter, make it one. Currently it's a subpar jouster.