Imrahil!

I don't remember where, but i remember somebody speaking about a new imrahil hero version could be released in this cycle. You guys remember where did it happened? And how is spoken it? I'm curious... How could it known? Just musings... or there was any clue to think about this Imrahil?

Thanks

I did, when A Storm on Cobas Haven was anounced, they teased a new Tactics hero, and since the quest takes place in Dol Amroth I speculated Tactics Imrahil was the hero in the pack, and it ended up being Na'asiyah. Had to wait for the very next announcent though!

Late third quarter release? That means the next 5 adventure packs are coming in the next 4 months

Imrahil!

I don't remember where, but i remember somebody speaking about a new imrahil hero version could be released in this cycle. You guys remember where did it happened? And how is spoken it? I'm curious... How could it known? Just musings... or there was any clue to think about this Imrahil?

Thanks

I did, when A Storm on Cobas Haven was anounced, they teased a new Tactics hero, and since the quest takes place in Dol Amroth I speculated Tactics Imrahil was the hero in the pack, and it ended up being Na'asiyah. Had to wait for the very next announcent though!

Yes, it might have to be Beregond for Flame. It would be fun if he stayed with the same stats and become Spirit, thus within a box an ultimate defender and quester would swap spheres… and become very unorthodox in their new ones, Beregond even more so, I would say, no matter the ability.

By the way, Prince of Dol Amroth goes much better on the Leadership Imrahil, I feel. Him, Denethor and Hirluin will beat anything. But I might not bother trying, Outlands felt like cheating three years ago, they should be much more ridiculous now...

I feel. Him, Denethor and Hirluin will beat anything.

That is exactly my plan when I saw that attachment.

Initial observations:

A new archetype is emerging in deck design where you empty your deck so that you can control exactly what you put back and play over and over again. I see tactics Imrahil fitting into that style. For instance, with an empty deck and Beorn you can use Imrahil to attack for 8 every round. That can come in handy.

I like the Imrahil Silvan deck idea.

I just looked it up, the Elrond ally does NOT have the noble trait... bummer.

Red deck questing is becoming a thing, and I definitely approve. I like color identity as much as anyone, but certain aspects of the game (like questing) are too indispensable to be eliminated from a color. Imrahil is a good questing hero because his ability still applies while exhausted. I think this is one of the most important areas in the game to improve and I'm happy to see that the designers agree.

I love power decking and it seems that Outlands has no cieling. The pack does not, however, actually improve the trait. Unlike Silvans, Outlands does not benefit from allies coming in and out of play, so Imrahil does not fit even with the title. Also, the title grants one extra resource a round, which is nice, but at a cost of 3 it takes three rounds to break even. If you compare that to leadership Denethor the contest is a complete joke. Outlands decks don't take that long to destroy quests so the title is not even worth playing. Oh well.

So... Prince Imrahil the hero (he grew a beard?) and Sword-thain are a pretty good match.

So... Prince Imrahil the hero (he grew a beard?) and Sword-thain are a pretty good match.

How are you playing Sword-thain? Vilya? Well-equipped?

So, the article and pack are titled "The City of Corsairs", but the partially spoiled quest card says "City of the Corsairs". Which one is it? Something tells me it originally was "The City of Corsairs" but as an afterthought they decided to change the cards so it says "City of the Corsairs" becuase they didn't want too many more packs beggining with "The", but forgot to change the packaging.

A new archetype is emerging in deck design where you empty your deck so that you can control exactly what you put back and play over and over again. I see tactics Imrahil fitting into that style. For instance, with an empty deck and Beorn you can use Imrahil to attack for 8 every round. That can come in handy.

But you will draw Beorn after you shuffle him into an empty deck... Enter Miruvor, heh. (An idea, like so many, from the head of Seastan.)

The best part is you can give Leadership Imrahil the outlands trait as well, which is awesome!

By the way, Prince of Dol Amroth goes much better on the Leadership Imrahil, I feel. Him, Denethor and Hirluin will beat anything. But I might not bother trying, Outlands felt like cheating three years ago, they should be much more ridiculous now...

Why do people think Leadership Imrahil is better for Outlands? His ability is counter-intuitive to building up an army. Tactics Imrahil creates more bodies to use A Very Good Tale on and get temporary bonuses from.

Also, the title grants one extra resource a round, which is nice, but at a cost of 3 it takes three rounds to break even. If you compare that to leadership Denethor the contest is a complete joke. Outlands decks don't take that long to destroy quests so the title is not even worth playing. Oh well.

I think the biggest gain is the Outlands trait, honestly. Giving Imrahil the bonuses from the allies is probably going to be huge. A potential +3 to any of his stats will be ridiculous.

Why is nobody else discussing this aspect:

When I glanced as Inspiring Prescense" the upper-case "P" looks like an upper-case "D" and I swear it said "Inspiring Dress scense"

Sure the white robe looks good but it's not exactly groundbreaking on the catwalk.

I know it's not spelled that way but c'mon, look at the card and tell me you don't see it...

The best part is you can give Leadership Imrahil the outlands trait as well, which is awesome!

By the way, Prince of Dol Amroth goes much better on the Leadership Imrahil, I feel. Him, Denethor and Hirluin will beat anything. But I might not bother trying, Outlands felt like cheating three years ago, they should be much more ridiculous now...

Why do people think Leadership Imrahil is better for Outlands? His ability is counter-intuitive to building up an army. Tactics Imrahil creates more bodies to use A Very Good Tale on and get temporary bonuses from.

I dont know about "better", but I do know early game when outlands are weak. You have to use a guy or 2 to block while you're setting up your monster army it would give PI good action economy to help get through the early game until you are set up.

Running Leadership Imrahil lets you play Lord of Morthond which is pretty good. Also there are many more leadership related Outlands cards.

Also I am just now realizing that now that we have In Service of the Steward, you can give any ally Sword of Morthond too. You could make OHaUH Gandalf 7/7/7/7 with that Outlands trait!

*breaths heavy

" and the Númenorean artifact grants them a strange and corrupting power."

Probably reading too deep into it, but that sounds right up my alley. Here's hoping it's some hint for the next cycle!

Here's hoping to see some mutated tentacle corsairs

I love power decking and it seems that Outlands has no cieling. The pack does not, however, actually improve the trait. Unlike Silvans, Outlands does not benefit from allies coming in and out of play, so Imrahil does not fit even with the title. Also, the title grants one extra resource a round, which is nice, but at a cost of 3 it takes three rounds to break even. If you compare that to leadership Denethor the contest is a complete joke. Outlands decks don't take that long to destroy quests so the title is not even worth playing. Oh well.

Yes, the attachment does not do much for Outlands. Except, the allies will leave play in such a deck if you want it or not -- and thus Leadership Imrahil, with the attachment, will usually get to use two of his boosted stats, so the cost might be worth it… but again, I do not see myself trying it...

Giving a hero with action advantage an Outlands trait is kinda bonkers to be honest.

Is new Imrahil a severe case of sphere bleed? His ability seems very much Leadership-y to me. This type of ally mustering shouldn't be in tactics, even as a combat action.

But it's not mustering, it's jump-in - kick some ass (or get your ass kicked for the team) - jump out (if your ass is still intact). Pretty Tacticsy to me.

I dont know about "better", but I do know early game when outlands are weak. You have to use a guy or 2 to block while you're setting up your monster army it would give PI good action economy to help get through the early game until you are set up.

Giving a hero with action advantage an Outlands trait is kinda bonkers to be honest.

I get that. I don't see how bringing in a temporary ally to chump block is worse than chumping to ready Imrahil. Yea, the action advantage is bonkers on an Outlands character (Forlong anyone?), but the trigger for that action advantage doesn't synergize with Outlands at all.

Yeah not that fond of Outlands getting even more powerful, not matter how thematic that Title card is. I am sick and tried of seeing every other deck on ringsdb including Ethir Swordsman as it is...

Anyway, Imrahil seems like a Hero you could fit into many different types of decks. Nice!

I don't think they really wanted to boost Outlands that much either, but so many people talked about the fact that Prince Imrahil should technically be Outlands, so they granted us our wish.

One last thing: pairing the new Imrahil with hero Gandalf could be awesome. Like with Elrond, Wizard Pipe could be used to set up the top card so you never fail with his ability... or at the very least you can see the top card.