Hey guys, a friend of mine just bought the book and we are starting a game. Im just wondering if there is a career tree for Form VII? I see the other forms represented, but not Juyo. Has anybody made their own tree for it?

Hey guys, a friend of mine just bought the book and we are starting a game. Im just wondering if there is a career tree for Form VII? I see the other forms represented, but not Juyo. Has anybody made their own tree for it?

Sounds like something for the warrior book.

People have debated about it, but it's probably incoming. Eventually.

So nothing available right now though?

Nothing official right now, although like many others I expect it to be a Warrior spec once that book comes out.

For the moment, I would suggest going with the Aggressor - Terrify and its Improved Version are very similar to the kind of emotional attacks that Juyo uses. It's the closest we've got at the moment.

Nothing at the moment, with the Warrior career book being the most likely place that we'd see such a spec if FFG opts to create one for a Form that (in Legends at least) was exceedingly rare even when the Jedi Order was at the height of it's power and influence.

Currently, best way to replicate a Juyo practitioner would be to use Aggressor + Shii-Cho Knight. In fact, I think that's what Keith Kappel did for his 2000 XP Jedi Master game when building Mace Windu,

I still hope we see it though. It would feel incomplete not to have all 7 forms.

There really isn't a good spec to replicate Juyo right now simply because Juyo is a purely offensive style that has no real defense. It has no real fear component to it. Its a rage fest.

I think you could now use the Executioner specialization in Savage Spirits to enhance a Juyo-using character. It is focused on assault, like the aggressor, but without the fear aspect. What it lacks, however, is any direct connection to a lightsaber.

Nothing at the moment, with the Warrior career book being the most likely place that we'd see such a spec if FFG opts to create one for a Form that (in Legends at least) was exceedingly rare even when the Jedi Order was at the height of it's power and influence.

Currently, best way to replicate a Juyo practitioner would be to use Aggressor + Shii-Cho Knight. In fact, I think that's what Keith Kappel did for his 2000 XP Jedi Master game when building Mace Windu,

IIRC At the height of the jedi orders power and influence there would have been plenty of sith using form VII, just no Jedi. And at the time of the jedi order's biggest corruption there is Mace Windu and a few other Jedi who adapted this Sith technique to their own.

Vaapad should be pretty rare, but Juyo is really, really old, taught for millennia. Infact even the magna droids were familiar with the form. It was uncommon to use within the jedi order and once Bane established the rule of two you naturally don't have that many sith anymore, but at the same time I would assume that any jedi master was at least familiar with the form, just like they were with the other forms. I would be really surprised if they do not add form VII to the warrior career, which would fit thematically best and as well gives the warrior career two forms which should work fine with brawn AND give them one good and easy form against groups and own for duelling.

Nothing at the moment, with the Warrior career book being the most likely place that we'd see such a spec if FFG opts to create one for a Form that (in Legends at least) was exceedingly rare even when the Jedi Order was at the height of it's power and influence.

Currently, best way to replicate a Juyo practitioner would be to use Aggressor + Shii-Cho Knight. In fact, I think that's what Keith Kappel did for his 2000 XP Jedi Master game when building Mace Windu,

That's what I did.

Well, am doing.

Sigh which would provide absolutely nothing that Juyo does.

Ataru is the closest existing form to Juyo.

Juyo is just as physically demanding and acrobatic as Ataru.

The primary difference is Ataru flows from one move to the next while Juyo is very Staccato.

Aggressor is fear based, while Juyo is based entirely on rage to an almost berserk level.

A lot of this is really in how you choose to describe your attacks and no single Specialization is going to have everything you want. My advice is to not rely on a specific spec to tell the story for you, take multiple Specializations, buy the Talents that work for you and tell describe it as whatever form you want. It's not like anyone is going to tell you you're role playing character is doing a made up Jedi lightsabre form wrong...

Sigh which would provide absolutely nothing that Juyo does.

Ataru is the closest existing form to Juyo.

Juyo is just as physically demanding and acrobatic as Ataru.

The primary difference is Ataru flows from one move to the next while Juyo is very Staccato.

Aggressor is fear based, while Juyo is based entirely on rage to an almost berserk level.

So basically you need the Marauder tree, only it works with lightsabers.