This has probably already been discussed to death, but...

Norra Wexley, flew a Y Wing and (afaik) never an ARC-170

Shara Bey, flew an A Wing and (afaik) never an ARC-170

(looks like) Thane Kyrell, flew an X Wing and (afaik) never an ARC-170

I don't recognise the last pilot.

What the heck, FFG? I wanted Thane in an X Wing, Shara in her A Wing and Norra in a Y Wing!

Why cram them all into a single ship (which, BTW, looks like it could contain some neat upgrades for the T-65? Barrel roll anyone? I mean, I hate the idea that every ship needs some kind of post dial maneuver option, but I'll take what I can get to make my X Wings better!) that isn't iconic for any of them?

Very disappointed.

EDIT: Also, no generics? Hmm.

The first two flew Y and A at Endor, right?

I mean, this may simply be precursor to some other bit of New-Canon fluff that lumps them in a Squadron of Refitted and Repaired ARCs at some stage in the timeline.

The first two flew Y and A at Endor, right?

I mean, this may simply be precursor to some other bit of New-Canon fluff that lumps them in a Squadron of Refitted and Repaired ARCs at some stage in the timeline.

It's possible, but I'd be surprised. I think it's just some lazy developing, releasing a new ship that had no pilots in the lore (because the ship in question was never flown during the GCW) and having some neat and relatively popular pilots from the new lore that hadn't been released yet.

Ship without pilots, pilots without a ship, I think they just smushed the two together without much thought.

i'll take them in the interesting new (to x-wing) ship over their fluff ships anyday

gameplay >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fluff

i'll take them in the interesting new (to x-wing) ship over their fluff ships anyday

gameplay >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fluff

You're entitled to your opinion.

It is, of course, wrong , but you're entitled to it all the same.

Just an FYI, I keep you on my ignore list. I clicked 'read it anyway' because you've replied to my thread, but I won't be making that mistake again in the future, so don't be surprised if I don't respond to you again in this thread.

(because the ship in question was never flown during the GCW)

I really feel this part needs a qualifying statement. Such as: "As far as we know, so far." or "As far as the New-Canon has told us so far ..."

Because its very difficult to make definitive statements without knowing the whole picture - and we won't have the whole picture until there are enough complete storylines written from Aftermath-to-Force-Awakens.

I do agree - its odd to get that sort of information here first before seeing it elsewhere... But who knows.

I certainly don't know.

Corran in an E-wing, Tycho in an A-wing, Stele in an X1, ect...

It will be ok. Just breathe.

They will fly the ship that comes out when they come out and that's just how it'll be. However, you can take their abilities being revealed as possibly spoilers for if they ever find their way into their canon ships.

Because its very difficult to make definitive statements without knowing the whole picture - and we won't have the whole picture until there are enough complete storylines written from Aftermath-to-Force-Awakens.

Wrong era for an ARC-170, no?

Kinda seems more likely that we'd see these pilots in 'Rebels' or 'Rogue One' flying an ARC-170, before they later transfer into the fighters they are more commonly associated with.

Considering the ARC was flown mostly by Clones, to not have any generics is a little odd. They could have litteralylapped some TK numbers on the card and been good to go. There were still some clones in service by the outbreak of the GCW.

As for the aces, im not sure. This is a good ship, or it could be, and I plan to fly it even if that means picking the pilot i hate least.

Considering the ARC was flown mostly by Clones, to not have any generics is a little odd. They could have litteralylapped some TK numbers on the card and been good to go. There were still some clones in service by the outbreak of the GCW.

As for the aces, im not sure. This is a good ship, or it could be, and I plan to fly it even if that means picking the pilot i hate least.

The ARC-170 in-game represents the few ships the Rebels retrofitted, not the ships flown by clones during the Clone Wars (Most of whom are retired by now), so the lack of generics is to represent how rare the ship is today.

Because its very difficult to make definitive statements without knowing the whole picture - and we won't have the whole picture until there are enough complete storylines written from Aftermath-to-Force-Awakens.

Wrong era for an ARC-170, no?

Kinda seems more likely that we'd see these pilots in 'Rebels' or 'Rogue One' flying an ARC-170, before they later transfer into the fighters they are more commonly associated with.

The back of the ARC blister box states that the Rebel Alliance got a handful, and rebuilt/repaired them...

That's all I'm going by.

No generic?

Also, I was kinda miffed about the pilots I saw. Ehh. Something wholly boring of a name, Norra Wexley. Idk why. It just...

screams 70s attempt to be exotic?

I'm wholly underwhelmed at this ARC. not ucz its a bad ship, but cuz, sigh, it doesnt feel like what I hoped it would be.

Also, rebels seriously did not need a 9 hull 1 agi 3 attack ship.

I really feel this part needs a qualifying statement. Such as: "As far as we know, so far." or "As far as the New-Canon has told us so far ..."

Because its very difficult to make definitive statements without knowing the whole picture - and we won't have the whole picture until there are enough complete storylines written from Aftermath-to-Force-Awakens.

I do agree - its odd to get that sort of information here first before seeing it elsewhere... But who knows.

I certainly don't know.

Yeah, you're right. But I think it's pretty obvious that some marketing guys were talking about how many people thought the ARC-170 was cool, and wouldn't it be cool to get it into the game, and hey, we've also got these new pilots that don't have ships yet...

It's just disappointing, IMO.

Disappointed.

Lol Clones dont retire. They die, or run.
Yeah I know they represent the few the Rebel Scum were able to get, and honestly I hope the story of those souls and their ARCs get told, i'd love to read it. But the point remains, for generics they could have used John Smith..errr Stram Solo to use the SW version.
And come on! Poe's Mom?! I KNOW there will be a build with a custom black and orange ARC along with that T-70. IT'll happen and I'll have to feel bad for shooting down a family unit.

So FFG thought it to be smart to introduce a prequel ship with NO generic pilots...

But the longest and oldest thread begging for an Assault Gunboat... And we are now approaching wave 10 with NO hope of one?

Ughhhhhh.

Lol Clones dont retire. They die, or run.

Actually, the Empire retired the entire Clone Corps to replace them with Stormtroopers .

Keep in mind, they can still end up on ships that they're more known for. This is more odd for the ARC than it is for the pilots.

The first two flew Y and A at Endor, right?

I mean, this may simply be precursor to some other bit of New-Canon fluff that lumps them in a Squadron of Refitted and Repaired ARCs at some stage in the timeline.

It's possible, but I'd be surprised. I think it's just some lazy developing, releasing a new ship that had no pilots in the lore (because the ship in question was never flown during the GCW) and having some neat and relatively popular pilots from the new lore that hadn't been released yet.

Ship without pilots, pilots without a ship, I think they just smushed the two together without much thought.

Actually in Tarkin, it was the Empire who used the aging arc-170s in some early battles. Although I think this is a precursor to Rebels season 3. So there may be a method to this after all. And they can always put those pilots in their other ships at a later date. Look at Marek Steele.

The first two flew Y and A at Endor, right?

I mean, this may simply be precursor to some other bit of New-Canon fluff that lumps them in a Squadron of Refitted and Repaired ARCs at some stage in the timeline.

It's possible, but I'd be surprised. I think it's just some lazy developing, releasing a new ship that had no pilots in the lore (because the ship in question was never flown during the GCW) and having some neat and relatively popular pilots from the new lore that hadn't been released yet.

Ship without pilots, pilots without a ship, I think they just smushed the two together without much thought.

Actually in Tarkin, it was the Empire who used the aging arc-170s in some early battles. Although I think this is a precursor to Rebels season 3. So there may be a method to this after all. And they can always put those pilots in their other ships at a later date. Look at Marek Steele.

FWIW, the Rebels design team is the same one that did the Clone Wars CGI series. So we know they (specifically, those guys doing Rebels today) have a viable 3d model for the ARC-170.

(Indeed, they've already put the ARC-170 in 'Rebels' - you'll recall the two episodes where the team visited the abandoned Clone Wars asteroid base, where the hangar had all that wreckage in it. Definitely an ARC-170 present, there.)

Maybe they won't use it, again, but...I dunno, it's a cool looking ship, they have the model for it, they've even already used that model (in passing)...wouldn't surprise me at all to have the Phoenix cell encounter another group of Rebels (or even more old Clones) still flying ARC-170s.

Who cares? It's a game. You can have Poe fighting Vadar, who died like at least 20 years before Poe was a pilot. The fluff in this game doesn't have to make sense.

The thing I'm more annoyed about is how goddamn ugly the Arc-170 is, but maybe it'll grow on me like the K-wing didn't.

(because the ship in question was never flown during the GCW)

I really feel this part needs a qualifying statement. Such as: "As far as we know, so far." or "As far as the New-Canon has told us so far ..."

Because its very difficult to make definitive statements without knowing the whole picture - and we won't have the whole picture until there are enough complete storylines written from Aftermath-to-Force-Awakens.

I do agree - its odd to get that sort of information here first before seeing it elsewhere... But who knows.

I certainly don't know.

Most of this.

We know that the Galactic Civil War was basically a continuation of the Clone Wars, separated by a brief period of time where people changed hats. Old weapons never get retired, they just get pushed to the edges. There's no reason why the Empire wouldn't have sold off the ARC-170s (along with their Z-95s and V-wings) they inherited from the Republic as new weapons came online - and as the Empire's new military paradigms came into force, rendering the older vessels obsolescent - to outlying systems for their militias (from which they could easily be sold to Hutts, rebels, and other criminals following their "total loss" in operations).

I'm wondering if the ARC-170 was supposed to make an appearance in Rebels Season 2 when they started developing Wave IX, only for the ship to be dropped from the season after FFG had the model developed and in production.

Didn't Vader literally die the night that Poe was conceived? Or was Poe not born until significantly later?

Who cares? It's a game. You can have Poe fighting Vadar, who died like at least 20 years before Poe was a pilot. The fluff in this game doesn't have to make sense.

The thing I'm more annoyed about is how goddamn ugly the Arc-170 is, but maybe it'll grow on me like the K-wing didn't.

I personally think the Arc-170 looks great when viewed from the side or front, not so great when viewed from the top where the rounded wing-tips look weirder.

Didn't Vader literally die the night that Poe was conceived? Or was Poe not born until significantly later?

Although I have no doubt many Rebel babies were conceived the night Vader died, Poe was actually born two years before Endor.

The thing I'm more annoyed about is how goddamn ugly the Arc-170 is...

WRONG