Accuracy corrected front and rear arc shots, yes please!

Yeah i agree he's awesome. And Rebels get stupid Poe Dameron that gets wrecked by current meta on PS 9. My imperial half is happy about Quickie, but my Rebel half is really salty. Especially since the ARC 170 does not seem especially flashy. Looks cool, sure, but i highly doubt its impact on the table... Looks like a eorse Y-Wing of some sort!

also 3 other pilots and "prow thrusters", plus a tech that presumably gives you actions before stress from a red maneuver (could be quite decent if it costs what it's supposed to, ie 1 point)

poe is easily the least exciting thing in that pack by a country mile

I don't even consider the new Poe when crafting lists. He was fine before. I would have liked a new ability to go along with PS9.

firmly agreed there, but eh what can you do?

not that Quickdraw is necessarily a similar acquisition to a "proper" ps 9 ace on the imperial side. As mentioned before, dude's a glass cannon more akin to wedge (even in price!) than poe

though ito of being a unique, interesting addition to the game, he kicks the crap out of ps 9 carbon copy poe

Accuracy corrected front and rear arc shots, yes please!

Yeah i agree he's awesome. And Rebels get stupid Poe Dameron that gets wrecked by current meta on PS 9. My imperial half is happy about Quickie, but my Rebel half is really salty. Especially since the ARC 170 does not seem especially flashy. Looks cool, sure, but i highly doubt its impact on the table... Looks like a eorse Y-Wing of some sort!

also 3 other pilots and "prow thrusters", plus a tech that presumably gives you actions before stress from a red maneuver (could be quite decent if it costs what it's supposed to, ie 1 point)

poe is easily the least exciting thing in that pack by a country mile

I don't even consider the new Poe when crafting lists. He was fine before. I would have liked a new ability to go along with PS9.

firmly agreed there, but eh what can you do?

not that Quickdraw is necessarily a similar acquisition to a "proper" ps 9 ace on the imperial side. As mentioned before, dude's a glass cannon more akin to wedge (even in price!) than poe

though ito of being a unique, interesting addition to the game, he kicks the crap out of ps 9 carbon copy poe

Maybe we should start a super complaint thread about PS9 Poe and get him a sweet new ability. It's new ground for FFG so maybe they are playing it safe.

He gets the black one title which let's him shed a target lock which absolutely shuts down ships like Omega Leader and TAPs (certain builds anyway), not to mention he can shrug off target locks from some ordnance carriers too. It's cool but I love how different and unique the Tie/sf is, and the ARC. I don't fly rebels but I think it looks cool and the abilities are pretty interesting.

He gets the black one title which let's him shed a target lock which absolutely shuts down ships like Omega Leader and TAPs (certain builds anyway), not to mention he can shrug off target locks from some ordnance carriers too. It's cool but I love how different and unique the Tie/sf is, and the ARC. I don't fly rebels but I think it looks cool and the abilities are pretty interesting.

With the prevalence of OL I would say if you have to look hard at black one title. If you have a point it's worth it certainly.

He gets the black one title which let's him shed a target lock which absolutely shuts down ships like Omega Leader and TAPs (certain builds anyway), not to mention he can shrug off target locks from some ordnance carriers too. It's cool but I love how different and unique the Tie/sf is, and the ARC. I don't fly rebels but I think it looks cool and the abilities are pretty interesting.

not really

to shut down omega L, you need bb-8. Otherwise, you're boosting, and then Omega L's just shooting at you unmodified anyway

personally, I don't really care enough. Poe's a wasted opportunity, but there's 3 more T-70s and a BOATLOAD of upgrades to look forward to (including potential crew for the ARC )

there's also tech in heroes that the Tie/sf could steal

one thing to remember about the Black One title: its not once per turn. Give him BB8 or the new barrlroll mod and he can shed 2 targetlocks a turn (and since it works on friendly ships for some reason...dont get how that works...thats pretty **** good).

Though it does force him to have PTL if he wants the mod, otherwise he'd be tokenless.

Black One is kind of down the route i feel Xwings should be, but not really. Theyre always escorting ships, yet Biggs is the only one that actually does that job. I feel they should have a title akin to "Draw Their Fire" only its both hits/crits, once per attack, can pick if its a hit or crit (so you can soak crits into your shields, hits to your hull).

That would also give the generic xwing shmucks a value. Since its not an EPT they could also use it. Would make having a random Xwing ot T70 pretty important, especially if he had regen of some sort (R2D2 or whatever that other droid was with focus)

one thing to remember about the Black One title: its not once per turn. Give him BB8 or the new barrlroll mod and he can shed 2 targetlocks a turn (and since it works on friendly ships for some reason...dont get how that works...thats pretty **** good).

Though it does force him to have PTL if he wants the mod, otherwise he'd be tokenless.

Black One is kind of down the route i feel Xwings should be, but not really. Theyre always escorting ships, yet Biggs is the only one that actually does that job. I feel they should have a title akin to "Draw Their Fire" only its both hits/crits, once per attack, can pick if its a hit or crit (so you can soak crits into your shields, hits to your hull).

That would also give the generic xwing shmucks a value. Since its not an EPT they could also use it. Would make having a random Xwing ot T70 pretty important, especially if he had regen of some sort (R2D2 or whatever that other droid was with focus)

I will say that Black One would've been the coolest thing ever had it been X-wing only

Freaking bb-7 Wes/Wedge would've been ecstatic

bb-8 poe, though, is just not a threat especially not the overpriced ps 9. dude is horribly squishy without regen, and bb-8 is stupidly vulnerable turning two turns:

• red maneuver to get back into the fight
• the turn spent shedding the stress from said red maneuver

not to mention Quickdraw won't give a crap in either his PTL (use the TL before/after Poe rolls) or Rage (what's a TL?) variations

Now Nasty Asty is the man for bb-8, but PS 7 is super unfortunate for Black One (stupid PS 8 imperials)

Accuracy corrected front and rear arc shots, yes please!

Yeah i agree he's awesome. And Rebels get stupid Poe Dameron that gets wrecked by current meta on PS 9. My imperial half is happy about Quickie, but my Rebel half is really salty. Especially since the ARC 170 does not seem especially flashy. Looks cool, sure, but i highly doubt its impact on the table... Looks like a eorse Y-Wing of some sort!

also 3 other pilots and "prow thrusters", plus a tech that presumably gives you actions before stress from a red maneuver (could be quite decent if it costs what it's supposed to, ie 1 point)

poe is easily the least exciting thing in that pack by a country mile

I don't even consider the new Poe when crafting lists. He was fine before. I would have liked a new ability to go along with PS9.

The Arc-170 is very probably going to be another decent, but not good or excellent ship. Except if it was a lot cheaper than assumed so it could be a really tanky swarm-capable jouster. I don't know...

Edit: i just re-checked and saw 4 unique pilots on the Arc... So no swarm of them i assume. With Wexley at 29 it's not exactly cheap either.

Wex also has a good ability but then we have a serious contender named Miranda Doni in a 9hp agility 1 Rebel ship at 28 points before TLT... I guess they will be pretry different ships in the end but the power level of Miranda is a good benchmark for Rebel competitive lists i guess.

He gets the black one title which let's him shed a target lock which absolutely shuts down ships like Omega Leader and TAPs (certain builds anyway), not to mention he can shrug off target locks from some ordnance carriers too. It's cool but I love how different and unique the Tie/sf is, and the ARC. I don't fly rebels but I think it looks cool and the abilities are pretty interesting.

But i do like the fact that wave 9 goes into the direction of jousters with additional boons. If they do it correctly, there will be ships out-jousting U-boats so they finally get a hard counter like it should be.

He gets the black one title which let's him shed a target lock which absolutely shuts down ships like Omega Leader and TAPs (certain builds anyway), not to mention he can shrug off target locks from some ordnance carriers too. It's cool but I love how different and unique the Tie/sf is, and the ARC. I don't fly rebels but I think it looks cool and the abilities are pretty interesting.

not really

to shut down omega L, you need bb-8. Otherwise, you're boosting, and then Omega L's just shooting at you unmodified anyway

personally, I don't really care enough. Poe's a wasted opportunity, but there's 3 more T-70s and a BOATLOAD of upgrades to look forward to (including potential crew for the ARC )

there's also tech in heroes that the Tie/sf could steal

Yes! I hadn't considered that HotR will have some new tech to play with. So far it's much more slanted towards my imperial buddies. Crossing my fingers for an evade token to make juke work for SF's.

He gets the black one title which let's him shed a target lock which absolutely shuts down ships like Omega Leader and TAPs (certain builds anyway), not to mention he can shrug off target locks from some ordnance carriers too. It's cool but I love how different and unique the Tie/sf is, and the ARC. I don't fly rebels but I think it looks cool and the abilities are pretty interesting.

not really

to shut down omega L, you need bb-8. Otherwise, you're boosting, and then Omega L's just shooting at you unmodified anyway

personally, I don't really care enough. Poe's a wasted opportunity, but there's 3 more T-70s and a BOATLOAD of upgrades to look forward to (including potential crew for the ARC )

there's also tech in heroes that the Tie/sf could steal

Yes! I hadn't considered that HotR will have some new tech to play with. So far it's much more slanted towards my imperial buddies. Crossing my fingers for an evade token to make juke work for SF's.

doubt it

looks to trigger off of "When executing...[a maneuver]

...you may...

Pilot Str[ess]...

the Perfor[m Action..."

probably inverts the order of Perform Action and Check Pilot Stress, so you can focus before your seggy's stresses you

also, you could action + PTL before Check Pilot Stress on a green move (ending up with no stress) unless it specifies executing a red maneuver

if the price is right (1 point max), it could be very solid

i cant even guess what that HotR tech upgrade is. It has something to do with pilotskill from what we can read, i think anyway.

edit: course someone posts right before me a plausible answer lol

If it lets you dodge the stress from a red move for actions, oooo thats glorious.

He gets the black one title which let's him shed a target lock which absolutely shuts down ships like Omega Leader and TAPs (certain builds anyway), not to mention he can shrug off target locks from some ordnance carriers too. It's cool but I love how different and unique the Tie/sf is, and the ARC. I don't fly rebels but I think it looks cool and the abilities are pretty interesting.

not really

to shut down omega L, you need bb-8. Otherwise, you're boosting, and then Omega L's just shooting at you unmodified anyway

personally, I don't really care enough. Poe's a wasted opportunity, but there's 3 more T-70s and a BOATLOAD of upgrades to look forward to (including potential crew for the ARC )

there's also tech in heroes that the Tie/sf could steal

Yes! I hadn't considered that HotR will have some new tech to play with. So far it's much more slanted towards my imperial buddies. Crossing my fingers for an evade token to make juke work for SF's.

doubt it

looks to trigger off of "When executing...[a maneuver]

...you may...

Pilot Str[ess]...

the Perfor[m Action..."

probably inverts the order of Perform Action and Check Pilot Stress, so you can focus before your seggy's stresses you

also, you could action + PTL before Check Pilot Stress on a green move (ending up with no stress) unless it specifies executing a red maneuver

if the price is right (1 point max), it could be very solid

Either of those would be excellent and Poe being able to focus on Sloops would be really strong.

He gets the black one title which let's him shed a target lock which absolutely shuts down ships like Omega Leader and TAPs (certain builds anyway), not to mention he can shrug off target locks from some ordnance carriers too. It's cool but I love how different and unique the Tie/sf is, and the ARC. I don't fly rebels but I think it looks cool and the abilities are pretty interesting.

not really

to shut down omega L, you need bb-8. Otherwise, you're boosting, and then Omega L's just shooting at you unmodified anyway

personally, I don't really care enough. Poe's a wasted opportunity, but there's 3 more T-70s and a BOATLOAD of upgrades to look forward to (including potential crew for the ARC )

there's also tech in heroes that the Tie/sf could steal

Yes! I hadn't considered that HotR will have some new tech to play with. So far it's much more slanted towards my imperial buddies. Crossing my fingers for an evade token to make juke work for SF's.

doubt it

looks to trigger off of "When executing...[a maneuver]

...you may...

Pilot Str[ess]...

the Perfor[m Action..."

probably inverts the order of Perform Action and Check Pilot Stress, so you can focus before your seggy's stresses you

also, you could action + PTL before Check Pilot Stress on a green move (ending up with no stress) unless it specifies executing a red maneuver

if the price is right (1 point max), it could be very solid

Either of those would be excellent and Poe being able to focus on Sloops would be really strong.

would be if he could sloop

dude only knows how to t-roll

but yeah, I suspect poe's the reason why the tech exists. Of course, doesn't mean our sexy segnor packing Tie/sf couldn't abuse it either (for the right price) esp if Backdraft does something with his auxiliary arc and you ain't got time to waste flying past people

i wish t-roll was more of a barrelroll than what it is. That way it rotates your ship's facing 90, allowing you to broadside your target instead of headon.

Might be a bit too powerful though.

i wish t-roll was more of a barrelroll than what it is. That way it rotates your ship's facing 90, allowing you to broadside your target instead of headon.

Might be a bit too powerful though.

nah, that's iggy-D

got nothing against the t-roll personally, I find it's actually very useful for navigating obstacle fields and other obstructive things

the seggy's are just sexier due to the facing change

In hoping one day for the ability to add segnlrs to older ships. Academy pilots with seggy's would be sweet.

In hoping one day for the ability to add segnlrs to older ships. Academy pilots with seggy's would be sweet.

those are called Epsilon Squadron Pilots

In hoping one day for the ability to add segnlrs to older ships. Academy pilots with seggy's would be sweet.

those are called Epsilon Squadron Pilots

Yeah but those cost 15, not as good a swarm ship as academies.