ARC dial from the article: "It flies well at slower speeds, but struggles at higher speeds, featuring six green maneuvers at speeds "1" and "2," even while four of its seven higher-speed maneuvers are red."

I'm calling it:

1-speed: straight and banks, all green.

2-speed: straight and banks green, turns white.

3-speed: straight and banks white, turns red.

4-speed: straight and K-turn both red.

First off, I like how FFG is addressing the whole issue with Wave 5 and turrets. They have made steps to make ships that you want to be in someone's firing arc. That's pretty cool. Also, with these new ships, there are lots of ships with numerous firing arcs. This is really good against all the Imp Aces that are running rampant. Lots of cool things to counter Arc Dodging, which is another issue I think X-wing needed to address as a game system. Perhaps you can have an Imperial Build that is more than just 3 Aces all the time?

not sure enthused about the arc pilots, though. Their abilities (PS 6 and 7) are stupidly situational and difficult to abuse without some serious luck

PS 6 sacrifices her own modifiers

PS 7 sacrifices her own modifier to add a result that needs to be further modified to do anything

basically need to PTL and hope you don't roll blanks

No imagination! Rebels excel at Synergy. There are a ton of options for these to pilots. Norra Wexley can use the Weapons Engineer crew to get 2 Target Locks. One for her target, and one for someone else. Also, you can use Dutch to give away a free TL to her. Tons of other options to give away actions, like Squad Leader, Cracken, etc.

Shara has other options than PTL. What about Norra, for example? R7-T1? Or Dutch? Or Squad Leader? Or Cracken? Or Garven Dries? Or Kyle Katarn? Or.....etc.

I don't think the ARC-170 fighters step on the toes of the X-wing so much as I'm sure their speed is not going to be very fast. X-wings are awesome at getting to where they need to be. Might not matter much for tournament play, but very important in Epic and Missions.

My disappointment stems from the fact that having Bey in an A Wing would refresh the A Wing...at least a little.

Just wait for the "Rebel Vets" to come out. She could be in there.

I think I want 2 of them so I can run "Yummy Mummies" or whatever that list ends up getting called.

I'm cringing just thinking of it, but let's get the obvious out of the way: "Mothers I'd Like to Fly."

Dang! You beat me to it!

Alright.....I'm looking at Fearless(ness?) the EPT. You get to add a hit result when you are firing at someone in your firing arc? This helps every single jouster in the game. That includes T-65's! Arc Dodging and repositioning might not be as important if you are OK with getting someone in your firing arc. OK...I am still expecting the T-67 title that adds Boost to the T-65, but it is really cool to see this added. Imagine Wedge with this. Reduce their green by 1 AND add in a free hit. If someone has to use Boost or BR (now an option with Vectoring Thrusters) to re-position to get the shot, they might not need to modify their dice if they have Fearless. OK...your averages drop, but you add in a hit. Which is better: getting a re-roll or just adding in a hit? I'd say the Hit most of the time, because you still have the chance of actually rolling well and adding to your total.

Fearless is also going to be awesome for the Kihraxz Fighter. Same with Vectoring Thrusters. They can do a 1 hard turn and then BR backwards? So cool.

Dengar is also going to love Fearless....and it even fits in with his backstory!

I like how Kad Solus' ability is kind of like Soontir Fel, but based on just the maneuvers. So, no PTL every dang turn to take advantage of it too much.

IG crew is very cool and we will see one IG in a list more than the few rare sightings from the interwebs. There will surely be some cool combos with cool pilots. What about Dengar with IG-88 A? I can see Dengar taking hits and taking down ships (especially with Fearless and R5-P8).

If Ketsu Onyo can get someone at R1 in their firing arc...they auto get the -1 Agility. She can then fire and if she has the title, they get another -1 Agility. Holy cow! That could be quite crazy. The only trouble is the high agility ships will be hard to get into arc.

So....can the Shadow Caster fire from either the mobile firing arc OR the front arc? I can see how you would want to have the mobile in the front for use of title and special ability by Ketsu, but that's pretty boss to have 2 firing arcs if you need it.

OK...enough rambling. I'm sure 2 pages have passed while typing.

I don't think Fearless is that simple. There's a lot of text we can't read. Also, as someone pointed out earlier, it appears to be Scum only.

Nice, TIE/SF! Fire at two targets! Rebels is pumping out a lot of large, seemingly powerful ships.

What's the typical wait time between this their appearance and on store shelves? The dreaded boat delay?

Q4 or Q1 next year.

The announcement says "late Q3", though... They'd almost have to already be printed and on the boat to make that schedule, wouldn't they?

i'd rather have a plethora of ships and toys to pick from than a 100% thematic game true to the movies.

If you want your thematics you can still have Vader chasing Luke around: oh wait nobody uses Luke anyway.

Or Boba after Han...oh wait Han vanished.

Game first, fluff second.

i'd rather have a plethora of ships and toys to pick from than a 100% thematic game true to the movies.

Well if that was the goal.. We'd of been done after Wave 3, and even that had a EU ship in it.

He definitely died in TPM. Full stop.

No he didn't, George Lucas himself brought him back in the Clone Wars TV show.

You don't understand. It's really stupid. and I don't accept it. I really don't care if you think it's good or not. I just meant it's a shame I have to boycot Rebels now too.

So that ps9 tie/SF + Palp will let me fly over a rock, palp to a hit, and attack Fel during the activation phase before he has tokens, right?

Yes. Assuming you're willing to take a damage, skip your actions, and potentially place yourself in Fel's arc...

Is this the first ship that would be better with a lower PS?

Everything with a bomb slot came first, but especially Deathrain....also, note that Quickdraw doesn't actually need a lower PS, because she can equip Enhanced Scopes.

Ptl/baffle. Hit Fel before tokens with your mods up.

My FLGS manager has had hands on the new expansions already.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153417344521580&set=p.10153417344521580&type=3&theater

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153417345046580&set=p.10153417345046580&type=3&theater

So that August release date that was suggested might not be far off the mark...

??!!!?!?!!!??!!eleven?one

Yup. I should add he's at the UK Games Expo, so these are still firmly in FFG's hands rather than out in the wild. :-)

Might be why it was so long before this wave was announced, Maybe they're trying to avoid having ship info out for months before the wave actually hits.

scum need a huge ship not a 5th large ship let alone another large ship with 2+ agility backed by good haul.

I almost get the sense FFG is content to let 4x Brobots be the default Scum Epic. And that Epic is not that much of a priority for them anymore. They had to get the Gozanti out to balance out the Imperial side, but now, it feels like they'd rather keep larger ships to Armada. Where they're smaller.

You don't understand.

No you don't understand. I don't care in the least what you think of it. I'm telling you what the canon says. Your opinion of how good of an idea it is, is completely irrelevant since you don't get to decide what is or isn't canon.

I also pointed out that George himself did this, so don't blame Disney for it.

Also, before you accuse anyone else of rushing to anything, you should consider that you're the one declaring the sky is falling based on a preview article.

Ah yes 'the sky is falling'! That thing I famously said.

He definitely died in TPM. Full stop.

No he didn't, George Lucas himself brought him back in the Clone Wars TV show.

You don't understand. It's really stupid. and I don't accept it. I really don't care if you think it's good or not. I just meant it's a shame I have to boycot Rebels now too.

He definitely died in TPM. Full stop.

No he didn't, George Lucas himself brought him back in the Clone Wars TV show.

He definitely died in TPM. Full stop.

No he didn't, George Lucas himself brought him back in the Clone Wars TV show.

You don't understand. It's f**king stupid. and I don't accept it. I really don't care if you think it's good or not. I just meant it's a shame I have to boycot Rebels now too.

C'mon Tally, don't we wanted to be a bit more mainstream, you and I?

From the UK Games Expo, thanks to my FLGS manager - embedded photos of the boxes this time rather than semi-functional Facebook links.

Also, ships from Rebels ARE the civil war era. It isn't just the trilogy. It was happening years before Luke got involved. We're just finally seeing it fleshed out with Rebels, comics and Rogue One!

These releases are all good for me. The Protectorate ships were awesome, the Shadow Caster was ace. And we all knew the SF was coming.

Arc is a surprise, but given the lack of Rebel ships at the time they made this wave (before they got details on Rogue One and Ep8) it was logical. Plus given the pilots they went for, maybe we'll see the Arc in OT-era comics soon? Either pre-ANH or post-ROTJ

So no more classic EU ships? .... aww ...

Not true. EU is just now Legends, which means it's waiting for the official reboot to re-introduce all that stuff. We just have to wait for it.

Are we getting away from the Civil War? This doesn't seem like a good move for content, this looks like an attempt to get more sales. Putting out models from newer movies (Clone Wars) and the recent successful cartoon TV show.

I think a Rebel veterans with an E-wing and T-65 fix would be more more substantial than these attempts to print new content in the hopes of getting more recent newer fans.

The Rebels tv show is the Galactic Civil War, so it's not getting away from it at all. It's going further into it.

The re-vamped Clone Wars ships don't have any generic pilots and all the pilots listed are from Galactic Civil War (novels and comics). So, even the re-used Clone War era ships are still fighting in the same Galatic Civil War era. I'm not sure what exactly is your complaint.

Rebel Veterans type boxed sets are never done in an official wave. Neither are epic ships. People who are disappointed that this wave doesn't include some sort of fix for them should understand that you need to wait for that boxed set to come out outside of a wave.

... and the Star Trek ship is from Rebels??

Yep. That ship doesn't look SW at all.

As I said in another thread, it is disappointing that ships that showed up for 20 seconds at SW Rebels are included instead of an EU ship that has a follow for the last 20 years .

At least, they did a good job in this Wave. I'm afraid they are trying too hard to make ships unique (overdoing titles), though.

Well, Gunboat for Wave X.

This is not Fake! It's on FFG's homepage. These new ships look awesome.

George Lucas also made the prequels. I wouldn't blame Disney for anything since they made TFA. they could have just NOT put him in Rebels though. that would have been best.

All you haters shut up!

That Arc170 is ******* SEXY!

That pancake with turrets on the other hand....not so much.

As someone who always wants the X-Wing to get some love, I can make out a pair of R3 astromechs! Now why would an ARC need 2 it wouldn't. Ladies and gentlemen I predict a fix card.

Well Shadow comes with 2 TJs when 0 were sufficient. Could just be filler.

As I said in another thread, it is disappointing that ships that showed up for 20 seconds at SW Rebels are included instead of an EU ship that has a follow for the last 20 years .

I thought the gunboat was for the imperials?

actual boxes eh? well, that makes me believe the Q3 release then. If they already have them printed then its just distribution and hype-training marketing left.

... and the Star Trek ship is from Rebels??

Yep. That ship doesn't look SW at all.

As I said in another thread, it is disappointing that ships that showed up for 20 seconds at SW Rebels are included instead of an EU ship that has a follow for the last 20 years .

At least, they did a good job in this Wave. I'm afraid they are trying too hard to make ships unique (overdoing titles), though.

Well, Gunboat for Wave X.

The imperial ship in wave 10 will be either a Rogue One Half-Interceptor or a FO Shuttle ...

So maybe we'll get the Gunboat in wave 12 ...

At least with the Tie/sf now having a back arc, this would still leave a spot for the Tie Aggressor with a turret slot ... for wave 13 ..............................

... and the Star Trek ship is from Rebels??

Yep. That ship doesn't look SW at all.

As I said in another thread, it is disappointing that ships that showed up for 20 seconds at SW Rebels are included instead of an EU ship that has a follow for the last 20 years .

At least, they did a good job in this Wave. I'm afraid they are trying too hard to make ships unique (overdoing titles), though.

Well, Gunboat for Wave X.

Or, you know, they can release the ships which currently exist in the canon. FFG can only print what they're allowed to print, and this is what they've got. I'm all for the EU, but people need to accept that it's gone for the time being.

I swear, I hear one more person go on about how they 'deserve' a gunboat, I'm just gonna buy all the ones at my store and film myself smashing them with a hammer.

The other prequel era star fighters that could legitimately appear (as refits like the 170) would likely be the N1 (seen in the Shattered Empire comic) and the V-Wing (flown by Vader in the Lords of the Sith novel). Both are canon in the contemporary era.

I don't think things like the droid fighters make sense, as they would have all been decommissioned by the time of the Civil War, UNLESS FFG makes a Prequel-Era game or expansion. Personally I think that's more likely for Armada than X-Wing.