So it seems To the Limit has found a home with Bossk. My question is exactly when does the character become stunned? For instance can I.
1. Move (gain 4 movement points)
Use 2 movement points.
2. Indiscriminate Fire
Spend remaining movement points
3. To the Limit. Attack.
I think that sounds right. Just use it after your second action.
"then you become stunned." That takes place after your bonus 3rd action, well before Bossk's "end of round" effect triggers.
So I see it as:
Note that the second action needs to be a special action (so, Indiscriminate Fire or something from a command card) to be able to play To The Limit.
(But Indiscriminate Fire isn't an attack, so you have a choice of Move and Attack for the 1st and 3rd. But don't make the mistake of performing a Move as the 3rd, because you would not have a chance to spend movement points gained from it.)
Edited by a1bertI am not as versed as many here as to all of the "lawyer" bits of the game, but I don't think your understanding is correct. The card says "use after performing an -> (special action right?)"; If this is the case, I would think that you could not interrupt to move before performing this third action. At the same mark, the card does not say immediately; so I really don't know.
So it seems To the Limit has found a home with Bossk. My question is exactly when does the character become stunned? For instance can I.
1. Move (gain 4 movement points)
Use 2 movement points.
2. Indiscriminate Fire
Spend remaining movement points
3. To the Limit. Attack.
Can you spend the MP AFTER using the special attack? Wouldn't that interrupt the trigger for To the Limit?
Correct, you can't spend movement points between the special action and To The Limit. It would be giving up the trigger of after performing a special action.
Correct, you can't spend movement points between the special action and To The Limit. It would be giving up the trigger of after performing a special action.
That is the crux of my question. To the Limit doesn't state "immediately" perform an additional action. Since movement points can be spent any time during your activation I wasn't sure on this timing interaction.
Almost every if not every "after XX" or "before XX" or "may interrupt" trigger has an implied immediately, except if there are other abilities with the same trigger happening.
For example Gideon cannot suffer strain for movement points or spend movement points between resolving Command and exhausting Masterstroke. (Just had this question come up yesterday.) There's actually a ruling about this. (And apparently there's an older ruling which says otherwise, but was corrected.)
Edited by a1bertThe --> in this card specifically refers to a special action, and not just any action?
The --> in this card specifically refers to a special action, and not just any action?
Yes. It's the special action symbol. There are also cards that grant special actions. There are other cards that require or grant a generic action which does not use the special action symbol.
The --> in this card specifically refers to a special action, and not just any action?
Yes. It's the special action symbol. There are also cards that grant special actions. There are other cards that require or grant a generic action which does not use the special action symbol.
That's good to know. I had assumed it was just shorthand for 'action'
Cool good to know. Most ideally this would be happening on the last activation of the turn so getting to spend the leftover movement points to get closer to cover would ideally not be necessary. Thanks for the clarification. Now to see what my Bossk Troopers list can do this weekend. (Sadly not at a regional just a local casual tourney)
Edited by brystromSo could you move, use Indiscriminate Action, play To The Limit and Indiscriminate Action again?
Each special action can only be performed once per activation.
(Unless you have started the activation with Single Purpose.)
Edited by a1bertSo it would go move > IA > attack *stunned* end of round stun is cleared and regen 2 health of suffered. Interesting.. definitely an end of round or really close to end of round play. If you are running the strain penalty build (Skirmish version of Subversive Tactics 
) then that IA special action becomes pretty powerful, especially if you already had some trando's up there causing havoc.
Ugh, To The Limit is so much more complex than it needs to be.
Ugh, To The Limit is so much more complex than it needs to be.
Agreed... it would be more usable if it wasn't tied to a special action.
Right now you can only do this
Move
Indiscriminate Fire
To the Limit
Attack
Get Stunned
Or
Attack
Indiscriminate Fire
To The Limit
Move
Get Stunned
However.... if you use cards like Urgency you could flip that around a bit.
Are we assuming that you can trigger another special action from To the Limit? Obviously not Indiscriminate Fire again but something else? Like Merciless? Or does it only allow another regular action?
Ugh, To The Limit is so much more complex than it needs to be.
Agreed... it would be more usable if it wasn't tied to a special action.
Right now you can only do this
Move
Indiscriminate Fire
To the Limit
Attack
Get Stunned
Or
Attack
Indiscriminate Fire
To The Limit
Move
Get Stunned
However.... if you use cards like Urgency you could flip that around a bit.
Are we assuming that you can trigger another special action from To the Limit? Obviously not Indiscriminate Fire again but something else? Like Merciless? Or does it only allow another regular action?
It's even more complicated than that - from what I understand you couldn't even do your second option. You could technically choose the Move action as your free one from To the Limit, but you would be stunned immediately afterwards (before you could actually spend the movement points that you gained).
You're pretty much limited to using an attack for the free action, or, as you said, a different special action.
I'd honestly be more interested in playing a Parting Blow with him. If he's already activated, there's essentially no penalty.
You could use the rest of your movement points after playing 'To The Limit' if you have not already spent them. Then do the attack, then become stunned. Any movement points you have left after completing your last action are wasted due to being stunned immediately after the action.
You could use the rest of your movement points after playing 'To The Limit' if you have not already spent them. Then do the attack, then become stunned. Any movement points you have left after completing your last action are wasted due to being stunned immediately after the action.
No, you can't do this. You must do the To the Limit action immediately. There was a ruling somewhere.
Its pretty clear that if you do anything other than playing To the Limit immediately after the Special Action that triggered it you lose the window to play it.
Its also pretty clear that the action gained from To the Limit must be used immediately upon playing To the Limit.
At least, it is to me...
To the limit is a pretty simple card if you just stick to the timing windows.
You do a special action, then you have to play to the limit right away (except if you have other interrupt command cards that would stick to the same timing window), then you do the extra action from to the limit. After the action you are stunned.
Maybe someone can look for FFGs response we have about this somewhere in the forum for those who are not willing to accept it.
No, you cannot spend movement points between the special action and To The Limit. If you do, you miss the trigger of To The Limit (after resolving a special action). I think we already said so above.
(Edit: oops, page 2, so, well, we have now said it at least 5 times in this thread.)
Edited by a1bertTo The Limit is actually the only card with an entry under the Command Card headline in the FAQ - and it even has two entries!
This is perhaps the most ruled upon command card in the game (which unfortunately says more about the FAQ needing a bit more meat to it, than it does about To The Limit). Check it out if you are not certain how it works (after repeated explanations above).