Rebel fleet massing near Sullust

By evanger, in X-Wing

I agree with Crabbok. With Rogue One coming out, FFG will save an X-Wing and Y-Wing re-release for tie-ins to the movie. It makes the most sense marketing wise.

My guess is that we'll see a tie in set released on Force Friday. If they want it in big box stores, like Target, it will need to be another Core set.

I agree with Crabbok. With Rogue One coming out, FFG will save an X-Wing and Y-Wing re-release for tie-ins to the movie. It makes the most sense marketing wise.

My guess is that we'll see a tie in set released on Force Friday. If they want it in big box stores, like Target, it will need to be another Core set.

there has been no news in General from FFG for a few days now........ I think they are all busy testing the new Tie defenders

Hel-nah Brah... they are playing with the AT-AT's & AT-ST's that are part of that new $100 boxed game that will come with ROUGE ONE.

None of it will work for X-WING of course because Chris likes to make each game it's own thing... bet yeah they are playing with land war stuff.

;)

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I've said it once but I'll say it again: Heroes of the Resistance is "Rebel Veterans".

I don't think so. And here's why:

Heroes of the Resistance is likely just a separate release meant to partially fulfill the content from Episode 7. We know they will probably do more Force Awakens stuff at some point right? A TIE/sf, Kylo Ren's Shuttle? Leia's Resistance Shuttle? That "fast" ship Rey wanted initially before it was blown up? Maybe even Kanjaklub's ships? The problem is, these are all new ships and they can easily do a whole wave of Force Awakens ships and have it be all new. But for Poe's black X-Wing and the new Falcon, well we already have those models in our collections so you'd need to do them as an "aces" style box. Now they can do more "new" ships from TFA. Now we don't have to worry about how were going to get Finn and Rey. Oh, and Finn had better fly SOMETHING in episode 8!

I think we will still see a separate rebel "veterans" type box meant to address legacy ships, but it might be on hold until we see Rogue One come out. If FFG has some liberty on when to release it, then they will probably want to hold off as long as possible, else they end up with another pilot name calamity like we had in the TFA Starter and initial blisters full of generic "elites".

The problem with this is a veterans pack or aces should be adding pilots to old ships. So let's assume the TFA stuff is its own thing. Then we already have an A and B wing pack, so the (small) ships left are the X Y Z HWK, and let's assume the resistance is out since it's a veterans pack. So with those ships it seems agreed the E-Wing needs help... I am thinking a few new pilots and maybe a point reduction in exchange for some slots... Not breaking Corran is the problem. Now the Y-wing is well played and in several packs already so I thinks it's safe to assume we won't get one of those, same for the Z-95. The HWK and X are all that's left, but many would and have argued it already has 3 packs. Even so there is a demand for several pilots in the X-Wing so maybe... We aren't getting a hwk. But if we assume the Veterans is the TFA stuff then it works like an aces or veterans, we have T-70s and Falcons, and get new pilots and upgrades... Which is typically done in an aces pack as discussed.

Rebellion-only astromechs could be a fix for T-65 X-Wings, Y-Wings, and E-Wings all at the same time.

Rebellion-only astromechs could be a fix for T-65 X-Wings, Y-Wings, and E-Wings all at the same time.

Rebellion-only astromechs could be a fix for T-65 X-Wings, Y-Wings, and E-Wings all at the same time.

These would be like printing money for FFG:

T-65 X-wing green stripe re-paint (bonus if Rogue Squadron name involved...you can't have the 181st and Emperor's Guard and not have the Rogues. That's just silly)

Rebel Y-wing gray squadron re-paint (more than 2 named pilots (and more than 4 total pilots) for the Rebellion's most commonly used starfighter of the Galactic Civil War)

Jabba's ship

TIE/sf

Kylo Ren's dorky shuttle

Given that the X-Wing apparently needs a fix (?) and the E-Wing certainly does, I think we'll see a Rebel Veterans one pretty soon.

But not before Scum Aces.

Given that the X-Wing apparently needs a fix (?) and the E-Wing certainly does, I think we'll see a Rebel Veterans one pretty soon.

But not before Scum Aces.

I don't want to see anything E-wing related, ever.

Also not interested in more Rebel HWK, Z-95, A-wing, B-wing, or K-wing.

I almost only like S&V for the ESB bounty hunters; I guess they should have an Aces pack, but maybe they shouldn't mirror the two other factions in release structure.

Edited by evanger

Given that the X-Wing apparently needs a fix (?) and the E-Wing certainly does, I think we'll see a Rebel Veterans one pretty soon.

But not before Scum Aces.

Not trying to be rude, you think it doesn't need a fix? That's the common consensus so I am wondering what your idea on this was. Again not trying to be sarcastic I am genuinely intrigued.

I just kinda thing the X-Wing is mostly okay. Whatever happens to it, it needs to fill a different role than the T-70. I would not give it boost, entirely because it just becomes a (almost) cheaper T-70.

It got the integrated Astromech though, and that's pretty good for it.

Given that the X-Wing apparently needs a fix (?) and the E-Wing certainly does, I think we'll see a Rebel Veterans one pretty soon.

But not before Scum Aces.

Not trying to be rude, you think it doesn't need a fix? That's the common consensus so I am wondering what your idea on this was. Again not trying to be sarcastic I am genuinely intrigued.

I just kinda thing the X-Wing is mostly okay. Whatever happens to it, it needs to fill a different role than the T-70. I would not give it boost, entirely because it just becomes a (almost) cheaper T-70.

It got the integrated Astromech though, and that's pretty good for it.

Rebel Ywing with crew is only acceptable if it takes away the astromech. I'd BTL with Tactican all day but with R3, that's insane.

BTL-Tactician-TLT is three stress. That alone is painful enough.

And, no no no on the Star Jewel. Not before we get an Action Transport with Talon Karrde. At least that ship type was in the movies.

Also, there's really no need to ship it with a separate fighter. The CR-90 was shown to be able to hold at least one fighter and wasn't shipped with one.

Given that the X-Wing apparently needs a fix (?) and the E-Wing certainly does, I think we'll see a Rebel Veterans one pretty soon.

But not before Scum Aces.

Not trying to be rude, you think it doesn't need a fix? That's the common consensus so I am wondering what your idea on this was. Again not trying to be sarcastic I am genuinely intrigued.
I just kinda thing the X-Wing is mostly okay. Whatever happens to it, it needs to fill a different role than the T-70. I would not give it boost, entirely because it just becomes a (almost) cheaper T-70.

It got the integrated Astromech though, and that's pretty good for it.

agreed on all points except to say that "mostly ok" means there is still some room for improvement - IA was a good start but it needs something to differentiate and provide true value

The thing is the old guard want T-65 to be as good as T-70, or worse still they want it to be as good as a B-WING. It should not be that good.

I think the only thing the T-65 may need still is more reliable damage output. I think if FFG just made a card like Linked Cannons (what I have had for them for two years now) to allow a reroll of all blank results; that would be good enough. It should be a 1 point MOD or an Asromech maybe that can still function with the IA card. This way the pilot could use Focus for defense.

:)

agreed on all points except to say that "mostly ok" means there is still some room for improvement - IA was a good start but it needs something to differentiate and provide true value

The thing is the old guard want T-65 to be as good as T-70, or worse still they want it to be as good as a B-WING. It should not be that good.

I think the only thing the T-65 may need still is more reliable damage output. I think if FFG just made a card like Linked Cannons (what I have had for them for two years now) to allow a reroll of all blank results; that would be good enough. It should be a 1 point MOD or an Asromech maybe that can still function with the IA card. This way the pilot could use Focus for defense.

:)

I personally just want it to have a viable roll that isn't done better/cheaper by something else. I agree with Lackwit on not giving it boost and do like your Linked Cannons idea, I just don't see enough reasons to take a T-65 over something else, except thematically. I know it's a cop-out but something similar to Chaardan Refit that gives more options to a squad might also be a step in the right direction.

That said, I'm being a complete hypocrite as I do occasionally love a Wedge/Poe/Jake trifecta :)

Edited by Bojanglez

agreed on all points except to say that "mostly ok" means there is still some room for improvement - IA was a good start but it needs something to differentiate and provide true value

The thing is the old guard want T-65 to be as good as T-70, or worse still they want it to be as good as a B-WING. It should not be that good.

I think the only thing the T-65 may need still is more reliable damage output. I think if FFG just made a card like Linked Cannons (what I have had for them for two years now) to allow a reroll of all blank results; that would be good enough. It should be a 1 point MOD or an Asromech maybe that can still function with the IA card. This way the pilot could use Focus for defense.

:)

I personally just want it to have a viable roll that isn't done better/cheaper by something else. I agree with Lackwit on not giving it boost and do like your Linked Cannons idea, I just don't see enough reasons to take a T-65 over something else, except thematically. I know it's a cop-out but something similar to Chaardan Refit that gives more options to a squad might also be a step in the right direction.

That said, I'm being a complete hypocrite as I do occasionally love a Wedge/Poe/Jake trifecta :)

I love both the old and new X-Wings... people just like to fuss, don't they Brah.

;)

agreed on all points except to say that "mostly ok" means there is still some room for improvement - IA was a good start but it needs something to differentiate and provide true value

The thing is the old guard want T-65 to be as good as T-70, or worse still they want it to be as good as a B-WING. It should not be that good.

I think the only thing the T-65 may need still is more reliable damage output. I think if FFG just made a card like Linked Cannons (what I have had for them for two years now) to allow a reroll of all blank results; that would be good enough. It should be a 1 point MOD or an Asromech maybe that can still function with the IA card. This way the pilot could use Focus for defense.

:)

I personally just want it to have a viable roll that isn't done better/cheaper by something else. I agree with Lackwit on not giving it boost and do like your Linked Cannons idea, I just don't see enough reasons to take a T-65 over something else, except thematically. I know it's a cop-out but something similar to Chaardan Refit that gives more options to a squad might also be a step in the right direction.

That said, I'm being a complete hypocrite as I do occasionally love a Wedge/Poe/Jake trifecta :)

I love both the old and new X-Wings... people just like to fuss, don't they Brah.

;)

way of the world, Big Boss :)

part of this is FFG's own fault. The game is so **** good that when something isn't perfect, it stands out and is easy to complain about.

I still say TLT's will kill this game. you mark my words.

way of the world, Big Boss :)

part of this is FFG's own fault. The game is so **** good that when something isn't perfect, it stands out and is easy to complain about.

I still say TLT's will kill this game. you mark my words.

Sorry, I meant triple Scouts, of course.

Edited by Bojanglez

way of the world, Big Boss :)

part of this is FFG's own fault. The game is so **** good that when something isn't perfect, it stands out and is easy to complain about.

I still say TLT's will kill this game. you mark my words.

Sorry, I meant triple Scouts, of course.

Sorry, I'm obviously more tired than I thought, it's the next thing that is probably in Wave 9 that will kill the game. You wait and see ;)

I don't think we will see another o.g. X wing in a pack for at least 2 years. We have 1 core set, 1 expansion, and 1 huge ship with X wings in them. What we might see is a

1pt astromech upgrade which benefits generic E wings/X wings/Y wings. Something to boost their defensiveness would be nice (allowing for spending focus/TL on attacks)

or

a 1pt 'at the start of combat, acquire a TL' generic-only astromech which gives them the option to focus for defense and use the TL on offense.

I could see something like this doing a lot for E-Wing and X-Wing generics at the right points cost:

R3 Astromech

? points

You cannot have more than 1 focus token.

After defending, you may assign 1 focus token to your ship.

That would give you focus on attack and defence, and most of the named pilots want another astromech instead. Not great for the Y-Wing, admittedly. I'm not sure what the right points cost would be, maybe 2? I'm also not sure if the limit on focus tokens is needed, but it stops you from stacking them up from attacks where you didn't need to spend focus.

Edited by Jarval

I'd like a unique droid that worked with Systems upgrades,
Such as

R7-G3
-Unique-
2 pt
"Once pre round, when dice are cancelled, you may choose 1 of the cancelled dice to put aside. Apply that dice's results as normal"

Accuracy Corrector a hit blank blank? Save the Hit, cancel the blanks, get 3 hits.
Got Crack Shot? Save the evade.
Ion Cannon got a hit hit Crit and opponent got no evades?? Save the Crit, two damage Ion cannon.

Based on international rumors, I think we'll see "Imperial Veterans" released today or tomorrow, then within a day or so we'll learn of "Rebel Veterans", an upcomng expansion containing two ships: T-65 X-wing and new (gray) Rebel Y-wing. For the X-wing, tradition says it needs an alt paint job, so why not a CorSec inspired green stripe (and Corran Horn pilot).

At least on long-rumored X-wing "fix" included. One of the features will be a method of adding a crew slot to a Y-wing (a functionality like the TIE Shuttle idea).

Why? Because of fun. I would buy two of them for sure.

Wave 9 and Jabba's Star Jewel (with 2 Z-95s) will be announced at GenCon's FFG In-Flight Report, possibly alongside a "Scum Aces" type pack.

Obviously this is all speculation on my part (aside from the initial rumor nugget)...but I have searched my feelings and I know it to be true.

Remember, there's an unspoiled astromech and a couple of unspoiled EPTs in the Heroes of the Resistance pack that could be potential X-Wing fixes.

Based on international rumors, I think we'll see "Imperial Veterans" released today or tomorrow, then within a day or so we'll learn of "Rebel Veterans", an upcomng expansion containing two ships: T-65 X-wing and new (gray) Rebel Y-wing. For the X-wing, tradition says it needs an alt paint job, so why not a CorSec inspired green stripe (and Corran Horn pilot).

At least on long-rumored X-wing "fix" included. One of the features will be a method of adding a crew slot to a Y-wing (a functionality like the TIE Shuttle idea).

Why? Because of fun. I would buy two of them for sure.

Wave 9 and Jabba's Star Jewel (with 2 Z-95s) will be announced at GenCon's FFG In-Flight Report, possibly alongside a "Scum Aces" type pack.

Obviously this is all speculation on my part (aside from the initial rumor nugget)...but I have searched my feelings and I know it to be true.

This guy has one more day to be right. But now that we're on the speculation train, does anyone know what the I am your father's day promo will be?

Double-sided Luke/Vader card with expanded art, as previewed in the web article.