Possible 4 ship Empire list (also is buying a vic pack worth it?)

By 54NCH32, in Star Wars: Armada Fleet Builds

So, I don't currently own the Victory pack, I ended up with 2 core sets, so the desire to buy yet another Victory wasn't high on my priority, however, it means no: Motti, Warlord or Corrupter, and to a lesser extent Flight controllers.

I finally commited to my first "buy it for the cards" purchase of a Neb-B for Intel Officer and XI7's the other day, (due to my first regionals in June, and well, these cards were just too good to not take with me - having proxied and tried any I don't own for casual games).

I stumbled on a post about revisiting the Vic into lists, I still like the thing, despite it being a slug, it can take a beating and dish it out, which led to the whole Warlord / TRC combo, which made me think, hell yes! haha.

So I adjusted my possible list to this, no squads, a fair bid, a raider for activation, feels like it could do some good. Need to think about objectives of course (thinking most wanted, contested outpost, and superior positions). So yeah, thoughts? advice? Worth it?

I can find a vic pack for about £20 / $29, I've so far only played casual, this regionals being my first jump into competitive gaming, but yeah... I'm tempted to splash out on it (it being payday has not helped my temptation haha).

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389/400

FLAGSHIP - Imperial II-class Star Destroyer (171)
- Admiral Motti
- Intel Officer
- Gunnery Team
- Electronic Countermeasures
- XI7 Turbolasers

Victory I (95)
Captain Needa
Sensor Team
Turbolaser Reroute Circuits
Warlord

Gladiator I (79)
Engine Techs
Assault Proton Torpedoes

Demolisher

Raider I

Yeah, I like it well enough. I wouldn't mind adding a bit of fighter cover somewhere, but the Raider and ISD should be able to put out enough anti-squadron dice between them if you run up against someone going heavy on the squads.

Most Wanted, Contested Outpost, and Superior Positions sound like alright options for this list.

The Raider can run and hide in Most Wanted while giving you extra dice against their scariest/priciest ship.

A VSD and ISD can hold the outpost nicely, and it encourages your opponent to go a specific way which the Raider and Demolisher can take advantage of.

Demolisher works alright for Superior Positions too, though you do end up with your ISD and VSD as a bit of a liability, especially if someone parks a Rhymer Ball or Firesprays behind the VSD. Maybe look at Dangerous Territory instead? Not having to worry about hitting rocks is nice for the VSD especially, as well as opening up more room to maneuver for the Demolisher. And if they decide not to take the damage to collect some/all of their tokens then your Raider is cheap enough to go chasing theirs and punish them for that choice.

The initiative bid is pretty big there, which is fine if your heart is set on going first but I'd be tempted to put either Ordinance Experts (since you've got no Screed) or Intel Officer (to deal with braces) on the Demolisher. Maybe even put Ordinance Experts on both the Demolisher (to fish for crits) and the Raider (for reliable anti-squad dice). Might be a bit biased by what I've been seeing locally, but there hasn't been such an appetite for large initiative bids around here as people would rather get more upgrades on the table.

The Vic pack is worth it for the cards if your an imperial player and it is a great ship that I clearly need to learn to play better

Yep, most wanted will mean a bailing raider, the murder wedges doing their thing for contested outpost, and I was actually torn between superior and DT, what you mentioned about freeing up the Vic and glads manoeuvring, (which I hadn’t even considered), so I may well go DT if I run this/other list like this.

I too was a lil sad about no fighter cover, but just couldn’t find any points to cut anywhere (bar dropping to an ISD 1, and it didn’t seem worth it for what would likely just be 2 delay tactic TIEs), so it will rely on the ISD and Raider. I agree about the ordnance experts, I very nearly put them on demo (I decided I’d have to rely on the odds, but sod that). So OD would be a good buy, with still a fair bid.

Hmmm, *hovers over Victory Pack Amazon link*

****, I may just go for it, Motti, the titles and an extra Intel Officer would be cool (plus I could play around with some 3 Vic carrier lists).

I’m pretty new to competitive, so I really appreciate the input guys, many thanks!

plus I could play around with some 3 Vic carrier lists

If you've got them, use them! I ran all 4 of my VSDs at a Spring Kit last weekend. Lost all three games but it was utterly worth it to put so many pizza slices on the table. And using the lessons from that I'm considering an actually less-awful 3VSD list now.

Buy ships, use ships, enjoy ships.

Man, I’ve been yo-yoing all over the place trying to come up with a list I enjoy, (of which there are several). ha :) But not taking my ISD just seems like a travesty! It’s so awesomey!

Also... I clicked and bought the bugger. So the above list is now in the top 3… top5… top 10… top DAMMITSTOPMAKINGLISTS!

Aye Regionals has had me going through list after list... Play testing again and again, I'm lucky that I can play 2 games a week against different people... Settled on a list finally and slowly been tweaking it to the point that I feel happy.

Aye Regionals has had me going through list after list... Play testing again and again, I'm lucky that I can play 2 games a week against different people... Settled on a list finally and slowly been tweaking it to the point that I feel happy.

Until next week.

Aye Regionals has had me going through list after list... Play testing again and again, I'm lucky that I can play 2 games a week against different people... Settled on a list finally and slowly been tweaking it to the point that I feel happy.

Until next week.

Naaaaaa I think I'll stick now bro.... but might try something different at Cardiff

Is Motti the only person we see who actually survives a Choking from Darth Vader?

Clearly, he had to die on the Death Star, for he had gained immunity from Choking from the ordeal...

So he must be a badass.

...

That's how it works, right?

Aye Regionals has had me going through list after list... Play testing again and again, I'm lucky that I can play 2 games a week against different people... Settled on a list finally and slowly been tweaking it to the point that I feel happy.

Nice, I've got an old workmate hooked on the game, so we play every Tuesday and just got another mate hooked in for Thursday, so I'm throwing lists at them at the mo and slowly settling on something. (Although, tonight I played rebels against him - He's still new to game and wanted to play Empire again, so that threw in a whole new "hmmm, what about a rebel lis...NO! EMPIRE" haha :D

Theres a few x-wing groups locally, but very little Armada so looking forward to Regionals to play some of this sweet epic pewpew.

Is Motti the only person we see who actually survives a Choking from Darth Vader?

Clearly, he had to die on the Death Star, for he had gained immunity from Choking from the ordeal...

So he must be a badass.

...

That's how it works, right?

+1 Small Ships, +2 Medium Ships, +3 Large Ships, +1000 DeathStars (unless accuracied).