The issues being you havn't played enough?

Right?

The issues being you havn't played enough?

Right?

Or not at all yet??

LOL

The issues being you havn't played enough?

Right?

Or not at all yet??

LOL

That Qualifies as "Not Enough".

I stand by my statement

X-wing is fun enough, but given the choice I'd always play armada.

I play more X Wing than Armada because of player availability. But I prefer Armada. It's a bit slower and deeper. And no green dice. I'm also fortunate enough that the local scene isn't about netlisting and being super meta. We love odd lists in X Wing.

Says the man who has a YT2400 AND another MC30 on order.

I play more X Wing than Armada because of player availability. But I prefer Armada. It's a bit slower and deeper. And no green dice. I'm also fortunate enough that the local scene isn't about netlisting and being super meta. We love odd lists in X Wing.

Says the man who has a YT2400 AND another MC30 on order.

Feeling ya. I got all the Armada empire on order with another MC30 and a Kwing and 2 Awings..

What is wrong with me? LOL

I play both as avidly as real life allows me to. That was more so last year than it has been this year.

I like them both. Before I jumped into X-Wing (Spring 2014), I did wish that there was a capital ships game to get involved in, rather than a fighters game. It would take another year for that to become a reality, and when it did I jumped in with both feet, but nobody forced me to choose between them. Some X-Wing players started playing Armada; most did not. (In my area, more Wingers jumped int Imperial Assault.)

I generally prefer the idea of grander battles, and for that Armada tickles me more. I also like that Armada has objectives rather than just 100-point-6-asteroid-Death-Matches. But I have to say that the purely competitive standard-play format has been boring me a bit with both of these games lately. In X-Wing, I like that the community is larger and more vibrant.

Bleh. . . X-Wing is predictable. Well so is armada to a degree but X-Wing is easy!

In X-Wing, I feel that experience can account for 5-15% of gameplay, list is 50-65% and luck fills the rest.

In Armada, I feel that Experiences is a solid 65%, list is 25%, and luck is 10%

I really disagree with those percentages. Experience accounts for a LOT more in X-wing than you give it credit for. That's why, with all of the thousands of people playing, and the hundreds who go to Worlds, the same guy has risen to the top for three straight years. It's not because he has just happened to be lucky through all those games. It's because he knows what he is doing.

You say that you gave X-Wing a try. Yes, you did. I was there, and you spent a lot of your time justifying your choice for Armada. By engaging in that justification, you already biased the 'try' against X-Wing. Also, when you played in that tournament I organized, you spent half the time telling the X-Wing players how much better Armada is by telling them how much inferior their game was. Strangely , we did not recruit any players for Armada that day.

This is something that I notice with a lot of people who play Armada when this question comes up, which Dras gets at when he writes the following:

I may add, I also firmly believe its possibly to upsell your favourite, without disparaging the other

There you go. In order to love Armada, you don't need to dislike X-Wing. In fact, pissing on the other game is a really numb-skull way to try to bring people into the game you want to grow. There may be some zero-sum aspect to it in terms of time commitment (as it was for me this weekend) and money investment, but nobody is asking you to declare your greater loyalty to Armada by putting down X-Wing. In fact, doing so is entirely counterproductive.

A lot of what draws people to either game is the community of players. If you're telling people how bad their game is, then they're going to get their hackles up, as they love X-Wing and identify with with that game. They're going to be turned off by Armada, because - at that moment - you're the representative of the Armada-playing community, and you just pissed on something they love and something they identify with.

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Okay, I'll stop ranting now.

This really is a preference issue. Both games can have depth, are really fun, and provide a great community. Factors I've faced: money, time, other players, and learning curve. Both games have a learning curve. With more components comes more variables, making Armada's curve a bit steeper. Builds are important, but focus on flying and you'll have fun. Dice will always be dice. Enjoy them both for what they are. (btw, I prefer Armada)

Armada is like a glorious three course meal that you enjoy with wine, friends and you have no rush to finish.

Rather than pick on poor X-Wing, I'll put my own experience just this weekend past where I introduced my friends to Splendor. We finished three games in the same time we would have finished 1 game of Armada. It was a game all three of us could play rather than having someone sit out or one player being ganged up on by his opponent and the on looker. All in all, we played games and had quite a lot of fun.