Wave 4 Upgrades: Half-Baked WAGs and Shameless Predictions

By Ardaedhel, in Star Wars: Armada

So, we did one of these for Wave 2, and whoever did it got a lot of them right. So... what do you guys think those half-masked upgrades are?

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INTERDICTOR


Commander _______
[Officer]

Admiral Piett
[Commander]

Flight Officer (4)
At the beginning of each
round, you may gain 1 (S*)
command token.

*Squadron
[Officer]

Fighter Coordinator
[Officer]

Engineering Team
[support Team]

Quad Laser Turrets
[Offensive Retrofit]

Leading Shots
[ion Cannons]

MS-1 I[on Cannons (5)
Blue (*): Choose
and exhaust one of the
defender's upgrade cards.
[ion Cannons]

G-8 Experimental Projector (8)
Before an enemy ship at
distance 1-5 resolves
the Determine Course
step, you may exhaust
this card to temporarily
reduce its speed by 1 to a
minimum of speed 0 until
the end of the maneuver.
[Experimental Retrofit]

Grav Shift Projector ()
Before deployment, place
1 grav shift token inside
the play area.

After deployment, you may
move each ship at distance
1-3 of the token up to
distance 1-X from its
current location. Ships
cannot overlap any
obstacles XXXXXXX
[Experimental Retrofit]

G7-X Grav Well Projector (2)
Before deploying fleets,
place 1 grav well token
anywhere in the play
area.

When a ship deploys at
distance 1-3 of a grav
well token, its speed dial
must be set to 0.
[Experimental Retrofit]

Targeting Disruptor (6)
While a friendly ship at
distance 1-X is defending
at close range, during its
Spend Defense Tokens
step you may exhaust this
card to force the attacker
to reroll up to X dice of
your choice.
[Experimental Retrofit]

Interdictor (3)
When a ship activates,
you may exhaust this
card to ready 1 other
upgrade card equipped
to this ship.
[Title]





LIBERTY

???

???

Veteran Gunners (5)
While attacking, you
may exhaust this card
to reroll all dice in your
attack pool.
[Weapons Team]

Skilled XXXXXX

Chaos XXXXXX

General Madine (30)
When a friendly ship
resolves a (N) command,
if it spent a (N) dial it may
increase 1 additional
yaw value by 1. If it
spent a (N) token, it may
either change its speed
or increase 1 yaw value
by 1.
[Commander]

Quad Turbolaser Turrets (7)
While attacking, if at
least 1 red die face has
an (a) icon, add a red
die set to a (X) icon
to your attack pool.
[Turbolasers]

MS-1 I[on Cannons (5)
Blue (*):
Choose
and exhaust one of the
defender's upgrade cards.
[ion Cannons]

Spinal Armaments (9)
Modification

The battery armaments
for your front and rear
hull zones are increased
by 1 red die.
[Turbolasers]

High-Energy
Ion Turrets (6)
Modification

The battery armaments
for your right and left
hull zones are increased
by 1 blue die.
[ion Cannons]

Mon Delindo/Karren (5)
While attacking a ship,
the defender cannot
spend exhausted
defense tokens.
[Title]

Endurance (2)
At the start of the first
round, gain a (C*)
defense token.

*Contain
[Title]

Liberty (3)
(S): If you spent a (S)
token, you may activate
1 additional squadron.
[Title]

Well, not saying it IS Piett, because he should be the SSD's commander card...

but if it is, he is almost guaranteed to "Intensify forward firepower!"

So I would think the Ackbar equivalent for the forward arc.

The Admiral is probably Brom Titus. Admiral in charge of the prototype Interdictor cruiser in Rebels. Where the design came from. If it is Piett, then I would be pretty surprised.

The Admiral is probably Brom Titus. Admiral in charge of the prototype Interdictor cruiser in Rebels. Where the design came from. If it is Piett, then I would be pretty surprised.

There is an Admiral Upgrade. Because the card starts "Admiral"... So it won't be a Fleet Commander, it'll be an Upgrade like Needa...

And that is not the Fleet Commander.

The Fleet Commander is still face-down.

The Upgrade one is probably Piett, because there's not that many more Named Admirals that it could be... Titus and Piett are really the only two we've got without EU Diving, and we might see both of them there.

Edited by Drasnighta

The Admiral is probably Brom Titus. Admiral in charge of the prototype Interdictor cruiser in Rebels. Where the design came from. If it is Piett, then I would be pretty surprised.

There is an Admiral Upgrade. Because the card starts "Admiral"... So it won't be a Fleet Commander, it'll be an Upgrade like Needa...

And that is not the Fleet Commander.

The Fleet Commander is still face-down.

The Upgrade one is probably Piett, because there's not that many more Named Admirals that it could be... Titus and Piett are really the only two we've got without EU Diving, and we might see both of them there.

Piett as only an upgrade card seems kinda disgraceful to the character. I mean he was in command of the Executor.

The Admiral is probably Brom Titus. Admiral in charge of the prototype Interdictor cruiser in Rebels. Where the design came from. If it is Piett, then I would be pretty surprised.

There is an Admiral Upgrade. Because the card starts "Admiral"... So it won't be a Fleet Commander, it'll be an Upgrade like Needa...

And that is not the Fleet Commander.

The Fleet Commander is still face-down.

The Upgrade one is probably Piett, because there's not that many more Named Admirals that it could be... Titus and Piett are really the only two we've got without EU Diving, and we might see both of them there.

Motti, Screed & Ozzel all begin with "Admiral".

That is hardly proof that it is an officer, just saying.

The Admiral is probably Brom Titus. Admiral in charge of the prototype Interdictor cruiser in Rebels. Where the design came from. If it is Piett, then I would be pretty surprised.

There is an Admiral Upgrade. Because the card starts "Admiral"... So it won't be a Fleet Commander, it'll be an Upgrade like Needa...

And that is not the Fleet Commander.

The Fleet Commander is still face-down.

The Upgrade one is probably Piett, because there's not that many more Named Admirals that it could be... Titus and Piett are really the only two we've got without EU Diving, and we might see both of them there.

Motti, Screed & Ozzel all begin with "Admiral".

That is hardly proof that it is an officer, just saying.

Not its not.

The Colour of the Card is.

Check it out.

You can see the gold Banding on it.

That means its a Non-Fleet Commander Upgrade card.

Fleet Commander Cards are Blueish.

On commanders and upgrades, and this is not really as much about a prediction as about how the general trend of upgrades could work in general: It makes sense that we could have cards that are commanders AND cards that are admiral upgrades. I think the rule is that a unique can only occur once. The only thing like that we've got in game right now is Darth Vader as a Tie Advanced and as the Admiral. It could be Piett, and then we could have Brom as the Fleet Commander, or it could be the other way around, or it could be something else entirely. I still say kick out a SSD with Piett at some point, but who knows?

Ok, you got me there, but the two officer upgrade Admirals, were barely Canon by cameo appearance. Captain Needa had more screen time than both combined, and I dont think Admiral Montferrat ever appeared on screen.

Piett spent the better part of two movies in command of a massive Imperial fleet, and would fall directly behind Tarkin for Imperial head honchos with time on screen. No way they make Piett an officer upgrade when Ozzel is a commander.

Ok, you got me there, but the two officer upgrade Admirals, were barely Canon by cameo appearance. Captain Needa had more screen time than both combined, and I dont think Admiral Montferrat ever appeared on screen.

Piett spent the better part of two movies in command of a massive Imperial fleet, and would fall directly behind Tarkin for Imperial head honchos with time on screen. No way they make Piett an officer upgrade when Ozzel is a commander.

Yeah, I'd be pretty surprised to see Piett relegated to only an officer upgrade. I could see them doing both, since he was shown both in command and not.

Piett the Officer could be a backup Admiral. Takes over the fleet when your starting Admiral is executed for incompetence.

Maybe he could be an officer upgrade for a ship, and if the flagship dies, his ability could transfer to the whole fleet instead.

General Madine is the only Non-lead-cast Rebel officer explicitly addressed by Rank and Name on Screen in the Movies....

Still took until Wave 4 to see him :D

Anything is possible.

All I am stating is that there is an Upgrade card that starts "Commander", an Upgrade card that starts "Admiral", and a Face Down Commander card.

I'm not claiming Piett is the Admiral, and Titus is the Fleet commander.

I figure it would actually be the opposite.

I'm just pointing out that neither the "Commander" card we can partially see, nor the "Admiral" card we can partially see... Are the Fleet Commander.

General Madine is the only Non-lead-cast Rebel officer explicitly addressed by Rank and Name on Screen in the Movies....

Still took until Wave 4 to see him :D

Anything is possible.

All I am stating is that there is an Upgrade card that starts "Commander", an Upgrade card that starts "Admiral", and a Face Down Commander card.

I'm not claiming Piett is the Admiral, and Titus is the Fleet commander.

I figure it would actually be the opposite.

I'm just pointing out that neither the "Commander" card we can partially see, nor the "Admiral" card we can partially see... Are the Fleet Commander.

I agree, you make good points, but, I got to say, I am not even convinced the card starting with "Comman" is even an officer. Could be a Command Center Offensive Retrofit.

What if there was an officer variant AND a Fleet commander variant of a commander? ;)

I think it is safe to throw General Veers int the fleet commander pool, being the Imperial on screen equivalent to Madine.

I have a suspicion about the points cost.

A lot of people are concerned about the seemingly high cost of the Interdictor Suppression variant.

What if we have things backwards?

What if the suppression refit is the more expensive variant? And gains a second Experimental Retrofit for the investment?

This would allow you to combo the one-off capabilities of the deployment shenanigans while still getting the mid game effects like the G-8.

Rereading the announcement, there's nothing staying how many slots each has. In fact, the article refers to using the upgrades plurally.

Edited by thecactusman17

If we get an admiral and officer version of Piett, then the officer should be Captain Piett.

My shameless prediction - they each come with their own stonking great upgrade that is only available in that set, thereby ensuring that even though you will only seriously want one interdictor, you will simply ​have to buy a couple of sets.

And I have no issue with this - especially looking at the Liberty. As is this ship looks like a prime candidate for the traditional Gunnery teams, Xi7, intel combo. I hope Wave 4 has something to disrupt this as the obvious best fit out.

General Madine is the only Non-lead-cast Rebel officer explicitly addressed by Rank and Name on Screen in the Movies....

Still took until Wave 4 to see him :D

Admiral Ackbar isn't lead cast either:

MON MOTHMA

The Emperor has made a critical error and the time for our attack has come. The data brought to us by the Bothan spies pinpoints the exact location of the Emperor's new battle station. We also know that the weapon systems of this Death Star are not yet operational. With the Imperial Fleet spread throughout the galaxy in a vain effort to engage us, it is relatively unprotected. But most important of all, we've learned that the Emperor himself is personally overseeing the final stages of the construction of this Death Star. Many Bothans died to bring us this information. Admiral Ackbar, please.

ACKBAR

You can see here the Death Star orbiting the forest Moon of Endor. Although the weapon systems on this Death Star are not yet operational, the Death Star does have a strong defense mechanism. It is protected by an energy shield, which is generated from the nearby forest Moon of Endor. The shield must be deactivated if any attack is to be attempted. Once the shield is down, our cruisers will create a perimeter, while the fighters fly into the superstructure and attempt to knock out the main reactor.

ACKBAR (cont)

General Calrissian has volunteered to lead the fighter attack

HAN

Good luck. You're gonna need it.

ACKBAR

General Madine.

GENERAL MADINE

We have stolen a small Imperial shuttle. Disguised as a cargo ship, and using a secret Imperial code, a strike team will land on the moon and deactivate the shield generator.

It'd be cool to see an officer upgrade that has a secondary effect that takes up when the admiral dies. Kinda back up admiral ;)

It'd be cool to see an officer upgrade that has a secondary effect that takes up when the admiral dies. Kinda back up admiral ;)

"Cheese it!"

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I'm still holding out hope that the hidden fleet commander card is Thrawn. He widely used them.

He wouldn't be the first EU commander to show up.

Edited by admiralcrunch

Well, I will stand corrected on that point :D

I often get things wrong, after all :D

So want to see thrawn!