I understand that at tournaments, it is normally expected you will have appropriate upgrade cards and not just proxies. But do you need to have multiple copies? For example, if I have 2 ships in my list with Autothrusters, would I be expected to have 2 physical cards to stack on the appropriate pilots or would 1 card be sufficient along with a list of what ships had what upgrades?
Upgrade card etiquette at tournaments
You need to represent each ship properly, with all upgrade cards, unless you're playing in your garage...
Besides, Autothrusters shouldn't be a problem. Buy Guri and you get two copies of them!
Edited by TezzasGamesYou need to have multiple cards if you're using multiple copies.
If you are paying to play and there are prizes available, you need a copy of every single pilot, upgrade, and token equipped.
Main card i run into issues with on multiple cards is Extra Munitions. The others are usually available on cheap ships in packages that have more than just that 1 card you want.
Technically Engine Upgrades or Stealth Device would be in there too but i dont know anyone that wants more than 2 of those anyway.
what about Tokens (i.e conner net/cluster mines etc) i have one set but want to run extra munitions but don't have a second lot of Cluster mines (i have 2 conners) admitidly it wont be an issue if all cluster mines are taken off the board before i want to reuse them!
what about Tokens (i.e conner net/cluster mines etc) i have one set but want to run extra munitions but don't have a second lot of Cluster mines (i have 2 conners) admitidly it wont be an issue if all cluster mines are taken off the board before i want to reuse them!
Tokens (including bombs) can sort of be proxied at tournaments.. in the form of acrylics.
You'd have to buy those though (or win in some cases).. i don't think people would accept self-cut cardboard bombs.
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what about Tokens (i.e conner net/cluster mines etc) i have one set but want to run extra munitions but don't have a second lot of Cluster mines (i have 2 conners) admitidly it wont be an issue if all cluster mines are taken off the board before i want to reuse them!
Tokens (including bombs) can sort of be proxied at tournaments.. in the form of acrylics.
You'd have to buy those though (or win in some cases).. i don't think people would accept self-cut cardboard bombs.
Depends if you have access to a laser cutter or not. I'm intending to cut a full set of my own templates and tokens when I have the time to put the vector files together now that my hackspace's laser is in commission..
Yes off course if you can make them exact size and functioning perfect, then they are no less official than the bought acrylics.
(and better than regional won oversized clusters) ![]()
Yes off course if you can make them exact size and functioning perfect, then they are no less official than the bought acrylics.
(and better than regional won oversized clusters)
I'm gonna use plywood.
They should be exactly as legal as any other third party tokens, as long as I can get the design work done right.
At the very least, I'm going to do some custom TL tokens and corner markers. I've been looking forward to having a TL token for Omega Leader with Trollface on it for months now.
Only card I've had issue with thus far is Integrated Astromech. I refuse to buy 4 T-70s just for that card. I already have 4 T-70s from boosters and 2 TFA Cores.
Know the people in your meta and be willing to loan cards to people. They in turn will loan cards to you.
Would you accept someone fielding four Y-Wings with TLT, but only two of them have the actual cards?
A bunch of X-Wings with only one IA between them?
Would you accept someone fielding four Y-Wings with TLT, but only two of them have the actual cards?
A bunch of X-Wings with only one IA between them?
Personally, I probably wouldn't care enough to object to the TO, but I/d be a bit irked given that I've limited my own list building to only cards and ships I actually own, even when I might want to run a list which features items I don't which I could proxy.
Not to mention the more ideological points about the ethics of proxying, especially at official events where it is formally against the rules.
In casual play, IDGAF.
In a tournament you MUST bring all the components required to field your ships and their associated upgrades and tokens. Saying that, I have seen people use a single card for two ships before in a tournament, in this instance it was Integrated Astromech which was placed in-between two X wing Pilots cards to represent that both had it.
I don't think anyone will quote the rules at you and have you DQ'd but it is expected to have all the cards.
Personally, I probably wouldn't care enough to object to the TO, but I/d be a bit irked given that I've limited my own list building to only cards and ships I actually own, even when I might want to run a list which features items I don't which I could proxy.Would you accept someone fielding four Y-Wings with TLT, but only two of them have the actual cards?
A bunch of X-Wings with only one IA between them?
Not to mention the more ideological points about the ethics of proxying, especially at official events where it is formally against the rules.
In casual play, IDGAF.
I'd just be like sweet we're running proxies, here's my X7 vessery then
Try not to get a Starbucks in the morning and get a ship with the cards you need. I know it's über hard. That special ingredient in the lattes "glitterstem" is so yummy.
I've never seen anyone raise a stink about that at a local store tournament. SC or Regionals better have every card.
i have self-cut bomb templates and nobody cares, though i also have atleast 1 of the original ones. I imagine if you didnt have the original people would be iffy about it.
I am definitely calling th TO if my opoonent is missing cards in a tournament. And if i am the TO thats at least a match loss and if he cant supply cards by the next macth a dq.
In everything outside a tourney youcan even proxy with appropriate bases and writing you manouvers on a paper for all i care, i wont mind.
More important than not proxying is displaying damage cards in an easily counted way. If you're using a Decimator, don't put them in one stack. Rows of 3 please.
It's not actually important that you don't proxy cards. A printout is functionally identical.
This is NOT a question of etiquette but simply a question about the rules. The Tournament rules state that you need all of your components and that is certainly going to mean a copy of every upgrade card you are using.
I believe you should get by without having enough bomb tokens to cover all of your potential drops but if you don't have the tokens then it will be hard to use a different copy of the upgrade until they become available again.
It's starting to seem like people don't give a **** where you get your cards with all of this "just proxy this or that and anything else you might need, although maybe not everything" stuff going around. If you are going to proxy something the least you can do is make sure you have one actual copy of what you are proxying available although you should still have other representations. A problem with saying you have IA on all 4 of your X-Wings but only one card is that it can make tracking points harder; maybe not so much in that but what if you want IA on 3/4 X-Wings so there is an odd ship out but with only one card going around it's hard to know which one.
If it's an official event with FFG prize support, then you need to have the cards. It's in the official rules. And yes, if I see my opponent is proxying, I'll call for a judge. It's unfair to everyone else at the event who stayed within the limits of what they actually owned.
Casual tourneys are up to the venue. If they had let people know beforehand that proxying would be allowed, then that's perfectly fair to everyone.
The rules are "one card for each pilot or upgrade," so, e.g., if you have three ships with Autothrusters, then by the rules you need three Autothrusters cards.
Personally, I would only call a TO if the player didn't have at least one card of each upgrade in play, as long as the player had a clear visual representation of his or her squadron. (I actually prefer it when people use squad-builder hard-copy. It's easier to track from across the table.)