Maarek Stele deals a Major Explosion

By Crabbok, in X-Wing

So I was thinking that I almost never see people flying Maarek Stele in his TIE Advanced lately. In mental prep for Imp Veterans I was wondering what would happen if Maarek Stele deals you a crit and you select Major Explosion.

If they roll a hit and have to suffer another critical damage, it's still a result of YOUR attack right? Could Maarek Stele potentially 1 shot a full-health Y-Wing if he's at range 1?

technically it's a result of the crit and opponent's roll, not steele's attack

I'm not entirely sure, because Stele's card says when you deal a faceup damage card, but the crit says "suffer", like passing over an asteroid.

I'm not fluent enough in the rules but I'd say no.

Precedent: boba fett (crew) , he works whenever you put a critical card beetween rolling red dice and giving initiative to next ship. Even if you tractored ship on asteroid. By analogy i would say that if somehow your attack deals crit after crit you get to choose all of them.

I think no because of the die roll but a good question.

Precedent: boba fett (crew) , he works whenever you put a critical card beetween rolling red dice and giving initiative to next ship. Even if you tractored ship on asteroid. By analogy i would say that if somehow your attack deals crit after crit you get to choose all of them.

Boba Fett is worded differently.

I think the Rexlar precedent is applicable here. You could have a major explosion, get a crit that immediately flips down, you could then Rexlar it face up again.

So, yes, I think Maarek would still apply.

So sad that even with the blatant fix of the atc maarek still isn't played. Just sad.

Needs the ps9 but really also needs a second action. :/.

I've been running maarek with VI and hull and atc. Does okay but it's kinda lack luster when people severely focus fire him or a teammate.

So sad that even with the blatant fix of the atc maarek still isn't played. Just sad.

Needs the ps9 but really also needs a second action. :/.

I've been running maarek with VI and hull and atc. Does okay but it's kinda lack luster when people severely focus fire him or a teammate.

I think the criticism applies to all the Advance pilots.

Still, I played Maarek with Lone Wolf. That was pretty fun. He is very solid with the title. Just has a lot of competition in the points range.

Played Maarek today and actually HAD a major explosion, but they rolled a blank so we didn't get to try it.

So I think it DOES work because the potential chain of crits would come directly from your attack. Your attack is what causes it. Until you STOP dealing damage cards, it is still "your attack". Once damage cards are done being dealt, THEN your attack is over.

So sad that even with the blatant fix of the atc maarek still isn't played. Just sad.

Needs the ps9 but really also needs a second action. :/.

I've been running maarek with VI and hull and atc. Does okay but it's kinda lack luster when people severely focus fire him or a teammate.

I think the criticism applies to all the Advance pilots.

Still, I played Maarek with Lone Wolf. That was pretty fun. He is very solid with the title. Just has a lot of competition in the points range.

Yes I had some games with Juno. but honestly, Vader is just more reliable.

Anyone tried supporting Juno or Maarek with the Tie Bomber/Shuttle? System Officer and Fleet Officer and mk2.

Then you can easily go VI on both for PS.

(Sadly, I think that Vader or Soontir supported so would be even more effective. 3 actions a turn basically.)

Slightly off topic, was a great game today and a pleasure to meet you guys.

-Cal

aka Bob

Maaerek is great, but he needs the right kind of meta to shine: one where reasonably accurate crits are enough to cripple an opponent, and where either ps7 is enough or wherever he can afford to take an offensive action without being shot to pieces.

Outside of that, he's much more limited, so ends up a meta-call more than awesome-by-default.

With lothal rebels, jumpmasters and even the odd falcon soon to be around, it might be time for him to think about a comeback, with enough ace support for those harder targets.

Soontir Fel (27)

Push the Limit (3)

Autothrusters (2)

Stealth Device (3)

Royal Guard TIE (0)

Darth Vader (29)

Juke (2)

XX-23 S-Thread Tracers (1)

Advanced Targeting Computer (1)

TIE/x1 (0)

Guidance Chips (0)

Maarek Stele (27)

Juke (2)

Advanced Targeting Computer (1)

TIE/x1 (0)

Total: 98

Both advanceds evade, with Vader extra-tacky with that focus. Missile sets up the TL for maaerek to do good work. Even possible for soontir to grab the freebie TL, though that's strictly opportunity based.

Extra missiles, guidance chips, etc to taste; or rip out soontir for the inquisitor if you'd rather a fatter Vader.

Could be fun.

how are you pronoucing Maarek's name? is it "Maa" "rek" or more like "Marek"? I use the former but I think i'm wrong.

trust me, you need damage for vader, dont waste a shot on xx23.

and youll probably enjoy mk2 engine on either vader or maarek more than you enjoy tracers.

hell or even a 99 bid vs other ps9s.

All that said, I'd drop the extras honestly and give vader his engine upgrade and adaptability. its just... so nice.

how are you pronoucing Maarek's name? is it "Maa" "rek" or more like "Marek"? I use the former but I think i'm wrong.

Like this.

If that were the case, considering the chances of pulling a direct hit, you could SL with a Youngster'd Epsilon Ace, PTL, TL, BR or Boost into range 2, and alpha strike Poe, a B-Wing, or anything else with 3 hull before they had a chance to even shoot.

That squadron at the minimum would still leave you 29 points to spend to make sure it wasn't a 1 trick pony. Heck, bring LT. Colzet along for the fun and extend that Alpha range to 4 hull with only one turn to fire. Now you'd be popping half of a Brobot team in 1 turn with a good roll.

Not saying that would cause unmitigated saltiness on the part of your opponent, but tables might be flipped because of that.

So sad that even with the blatant fix of the atc maarek still isn't played. Just sad.

I think the criticism applies to all the Advance pilots.

Still, I played Maarek with Lone Wolf. That was pretty fun. He is very solid with the title. Just has a lot of competition in the points range.

People just don't play them, because they think they are bad. The Advanced is my most flown ship, I've won or placed in many tournaments with almost all of its pilots, all of whom are at least competent now that we have /x1 title.

If you're worried about actions just take Alozen, probably the most overlooked but the third best Advanced pilot (after Juno and Vader). ATC was made for him, and he is fantastic with it. I'll take him with adaptability and ATC over Omega Leader any day. Killed Soontir with him in a tournament a few weeks back, he is absolutely merciless in a large bump.

Edited by DarkArk

Guidance chips on a vader? even if he had a damaging missile why waste a mod on that? he'd get so so much more from an engine upgrade, stealth, or even MK2 engines mods than changing 1 die on 1 missile.

back on OP: i dont think Maarek's ability would go off on the 2nd crit because "he" didnt do it. The card did it, and his ability says "when you deal..."

Same shenanigans to keep a Stealth Device if you hit a rock. Rocks arent an attack, so stealth doesnt go away.

back on OP: i dont think Maarek's ability would go off on the 2nd crit because "he" didnt do it. The card did it, and his ability says "when you deal..."

Same shenanigans to keep a Stealth Device if you hit a rock. Rocks arent an attack, so stealth doesnt go away.

Well it's still HIS attack. Until you finish dealing damage cards, it's still during Maarek's attack.

But yeah I can see it going either way. I hope this ends up in an FAQ because once Imp Veterans comes out there'll be way more Maarek Stele's out there and this is bound to come up again.

I would have (and have) argued no he doesn't get it before but the point of the "Rexler precedent" is pretty solid for he gets to choose on major explosion. If there was no faq for Rexler flipping minor explosion (and therefore major explosion) cards then I'd say no go but there is so I'd say rock out.

Precedent: boba fett (crew) , he works whenever you put a critical card beetween rolling red dice and giving initiative to next ship. Even if you tractored ship on asteroid. By analogy i would say that if somehow your attack deals crit after crit you get to choose all of them.

Boba Fett is worded differently.

Maarek: "When your attack deals a faceup Damage card to the defender,"

Boba: "After performing an attack, if the defender was dealt a faceup Damage card"

Well the difference mostly covers tractor beam'n'obstacle combo or some other consequences of attacks that are not attack itself that Maarek obviously ignores. As for the attack itself its Maarek's attack that deals those cards. 1,2,3 whatever. Its DIRECTLY effect of the attack. With boba and tractor the asteroid is not DIRECT consequence of the attack thats why Boba needed different wording to work with that.