I was under the impression an aux firing arc counts as an arc for all purposes like autothrusters, tactician, etc. I was sure this was in the FAQ, but they seem to have bundled this all into a general question in the latest FAQ and it doesn't really address this specific question. Is there a rule somewhere in the FAQ or rules reference I'm missing? Had this come up in a recent game and I went to the FAQ and just couldn't find it.

As far as I know, the rule is that a printed arc counts as a firing arc no matter what it's called.

On page 16 it says "A ship’s firing arcs are always the printed, shaded arcs on it's ship token" I think that really should cover nearly every issue you run into with a firing arc question.

They are arcs for all purposes like VanorDM stated. Futhermore Ghost aux arc even if "inactive" (no torps, no phantom) counts as arc for all purposes (turret and autothursters, tactician and so on)

Chiming in just to reinforce the notion that auxiliary firing arcs can trigger "in arc" effects like Tactician and deny ones like Auto-thrusters.

Though I'll need to spread the word at my local store, I had some folks who played a match with tactician in a falcon and convinced themselves they were activating it incorrectly last week. And reconsider adding autothruster Guri into my list with all the Jumpmasters around right now

Edit: not 360 degree arcs, though!

I had some folks who played a match with tactician in a falcon

Just making sure matters are clear, the falcon does NOT have an auxiliary arc. It only has a regular ~90* forward arc and a weapon that can ignore that arc. A falcon shooting behind itself at soontir at range 1 WILL trigger autothrusters.

I had some folks who played a match with tactician in a falcon

Just making sure matters are clear, the falcon does NOT have an auxiliary arc. It only has a regular ~90* forward arc and a weapon that can ignore that arc. A falcon shooting behind itself at soontir at range 1 WILL trigger autothrusters.

Oh, dang. Yup I just dug down a little and found that turret arcs let you fire your primary "outside your arc" while auxillary arcs are the things being discussed here. I'll edit all that mess out.

Saying things like "turret arcs" just adds to the confusion. Write out 500 times "turrets have no special arc". ;-)

They are arcs for all purposes like VanorDM stated. Futhermore Ghost aux arc even if "inactive" (no torps, no phantom) counts as arc for all purposes (turret and autothursters, tactician and so on)

Oh wow. So a VCX-1000 Lothal Rebel equipped with a dorsal turret (and no shuttle docked) firing directly behind it (within it's "special" arc or however it's called) will not trigger an enemy ship's autothruster modification?

correct.

On the topic of firing arcs, here's a very specific question.

If a Lothal Rebel doesn't have a docked shuttle, but does have torpedoes, has Biggs and another ship in the auxiliary firing arc, but has a target lock on the other ship, does Biggs ability make it so it can't shoot, or because the target lock makes the other ship the only target that can be attacked, Biggs ability is ignored?

Without the title, the Lothal Rebel can't fire from that auxiliary firing arc and it effectively might as well not exist - leaving Biggs as an invalid target under those circumstances and the Lothal Rebel is free to shoot whatever it pleases.

On the topic of firing arcs, here's a very specific question.

If a Lothal Rebel doesn't have a docked shuttle, but does have torpedoes, has Biggs and another ship in the auxiliary firing arc, but has a target lock on the other ship, does Biggs ability make it so it can't shoot, or because the target lock makes the other ship the only target that can be attacked, Biggs ability is ignored?

Since it is imposible for the lothal Rebel to shoot/target Biggs he can shoot the other ship with his torpedoes since biggs ability is "other friendly ships at Range 1 Cannot be targeted by attacks if the attacker could target you instead"

Without the title, the Lothal Rebel can't fire from that auxiliary firing arc and it effectively might as well not exist - leaving Biggs as an invalid target under those circumstances and the Lothal Rebel is free to shoot whatever it pleases.

The Lothal Rebel, or any VCX-100 pilot for that matter, doesn't need to have the title equipped to use it's special firing arc if it has a torpedo equipped. It's special arc is to fire any equipped torpedoes only, and it cannot fire it's primary weapon in the special arc.

On the topic of firing arcs, here's a very specific question.

If a Lothal Rebel doesn't have a docked shuttle, but does have torpedoes, has Biggs and another ship in the auxiliary firing arc, but has a target lock on the other ship, does Biggs ability make it so it can't shoot, or because the target lock makes the other ship the only target that can be attacked, Biggs ability is ignored?

The Rebel will never not be able to shoot anything because it has nothing it can shoot Biggs with. If it has nothing it can shoot Biggs with, his ability does not trigger. If it HAS got something it can shoot Biggs with, it must use it against him, unless it's shooting at something not at range 1 of him, or not shooting at all.

nvm

Without the title, the Lothal Rebel can't fire from that auxiliary firing arc and it effectively might as well not exist

The arc still counts for things that are based on being in our out of arc, like Backstabber or Tactician.

I was under the impression an aux firing arc counts as an arc for all purposes like autothrusters, tactician, etc. I was sure this was in the FAQ, but they seem to have bundled this all into a general question in the latest FAQ and it doesn't really address this specific question. Is there a rule somewhere in the FAQ or rules reference I'm missing? Had this come up in a recent game and I went to the FAQ and just couldn't find it.

Coming back to your original question.

FAQ v. 4.1.2

If you search the pdf for firing you find following statements:

• page 6, backstabber ability refers to printed firing arcS (plural) and not to printed firing arc.
• page 14, outmaneuver: The auxiliary firing arc of the Firespray-31 is a firing arc.
• page 16, left column, question concerning 360-degree firing arc, answer refers again to printed firing arcS (plural)

Hope it helps

I recall the sentence you were referring to, but I am afraid that it got lost somewhere...

It was added to page 18 today.

Q:
Do firing arcs that are not primary firing arcs (such as an
auxiliary or special firing arc) count as firing arcs for card
abilities such as “Backstabber” or Outmaneuver?
A:
Yes.

Yes. The brand new FAQ

A lot is going to change with it, by the way; no more double tactician with twin laser turret...

Yes. The brand new FAQ

A lot is going to change with it, by the way; no more double tactician with twin laser turret...

I noticed this too! Ariano, perhaps they reintroduced an old ruling? Either way that's nice and clear now.

Really like this FAQ, particularly the timing chart.