So we had some discussion at the store tonight about making Expose work. The upgrade is usually seen as a trap -- not worth its points, or not worth the tradeoff.

Can you make it viable?

We came up with a couple of ideas, and concluded it is highly situational. Some options:

(1) Decimators. They can take it because they sacrifice nothing, with zero agility.

(2) Youngster swarms. The other TIE Fighters share the EPT; it can be perfectly safe to Expose if you're clearly out of arc or otherwise not in position to be shot at.

(3) Protected by Biggs. If you have Biggs in range 1 and can't be targeted, its perfectly safe to use Expose.

(4) Where you have other Evade generation. A Stealth Device, Comms Relay, Jan Ors + Focus, or Lando Calrissian + Experimental Interface are all ways to restore agility lost by taking the Expose action.

Any other clever ways to put it to use?

Nope, no Youngster swarms.

You want to be able to modify or ideally double modify in addition to Expose.

Examples of forcing Expose to work:

Falcon with Expose, EI, Ezra, Weapons Engineer flown next to Biggs. Drop 2 TL's and EI for Expose, next turn you can focus and Expose. Ezra already gives you a mini focus when stressed so you could use the evade title if you wanted.

You could load out a Decimator in a similar way.

Zuckuss with Expose, flown next to a PtL Manaroo. Manaroo hands Zuckuss TL and focus, Zuckuss Exposes and uses his ability to get another die. At range 1 this is 6 target locked and focused dice.

I imagine it's usable on Tycho and Vader. Anything that has enough action economy to be able to not just be rolling 4 naked reds instead of 3 reds + focus. If you're doing that you're wasting it.

Like Marksmanship, Expose also works for as many attacks as you can do per round. Unfortunately Expose only works on primary attacks, but it synergizes with gunner I suppose.

Maybe you could use it on a Brobot instead of a cannon? You have FCS and Glitterstim for burst action economy. Range 1 that's 5 TL and focused dice. I'd kind of rather have a deluxe torpedo boat than that for 44 points though.

Valen Rudor. Leave him at PS6, you execute your maneuver, perform a normal action (most likely TL to get the free evade with the title). If you're up against higher PS, wait for someone to shoot you (if multiple people are, use it on the last one), use his ability to expose for the extra attack die. Now you got your normal defense, but still get the extra attack die, + a modifier from your normal action.

Chirneau with Ei and isard.

Bossk: Expose, k4, glitterstim/experimental interface

Nope, no Youngster swarms.

You want to be able to modify or ideally double modify in addition to Expose.

Examples of forcing Expose to work:

Falcon with Expose, EI, Ezra, Weapons Engineer flown next to Biggs. Drop 2 TL's and EI for Expose, next turn you can focus and Expose. Ezra already gives you a mini focus when stressed so you could use the evade title if you wanted.

You could load out a Decimator in a similar way.

Zuckuss with Expose, flown next to a PtL Manaroo. Manaroo hands Zuckuss TL and focus, Zuckuss Exposes and uses his ability to get another die. At range 1 this is 6 target locked and focused dice.

I imagine it's usable on Tycho and Vader. Anything that has enough action economy to be able to not just be rolling 4 naked reds instead of 3 reds + focus. If you're doing that you're wasting it.

Like Marksmanship, Expose also works for as many attacks as you can do per round. Unfortunately Expose only works on primary attacks, but it synergizes with gunner I suppose.

Maybe you could use it on a Brobot instead of a cannon? You have FCS and Glitterstim for burst action economy. Range 1 that's 5 TL and focused dice. I'd kind of rather have a deluxe torpedo boat than that for 44 points though.

Disagree 100%. Youngster with 4 BlackCracks and Howlrunner. Esp vs U-boats. A 4pt EPT turns TIEs into 3/2 with a re-roll and Cracksot. The damage potential is outstanding and you still get to modify.

1) only if you also take experimental interface other wise expose gives the same number of hits as three+focus.

2) no it's same as above if you can't modify the attack your not actually generating any extra damage.

3) Biggs will die then your back to same issue.

4)way too much effort for one more dice.

Expose is terrible because it robs you of your dice modifications so you don't end up any better off for losing that agility.

Expose just say no kids.

There is still the issue that unless you have access to focus elsewhere, taking a focus action is the same damage increase for two dice, and better average damage on three dice. Turn those 4 points into predator and you'll do more damage normally, more damage when stressed, and have an initiative bid.

EI/Isard on Decimators is the only time it's ever proven remotely viable. It's expensive and worse on average *for your attack* than just taking a focus action. AND it penalises your defence as well.

Exposing yourself is bad.

Here is a dirty trick

Corran Horn (35)
Expose (4)
Fire-Control System (2)
R2-D2 (4)
Hull Upgrade (3)

Airen Cracken (19)
Decoy (2)

Knave Squadron Pilot (27)
Fire-Control System (2)
R2 Astromech (1)

Total: 99

View in Yet Another Squad Builder

Have Craken shoot at PS 1 then give Corran the free action to Expose and he gets the Extra dice for the double tap and since Cracken is PS 1 there is a chance no one will shoot at Corran with the lower agility

It works well but you need to know how to fly it

EI + Expose Keyan can work fairly well - it's the same 7 points as an HLC, it gives you TL + Expose + Focus (as stress) - so it surprisingly doesn't have the action efficiency problem, nor the points problem. (HLC by itself, is just giving you a single action, and not giving a bonus at range 1, but eliminating enemies range 3 bonus)

Opportunist Keyan can be better for cheaper - but does require that the target be tokenless. (I quite like Opportunist Sensor Jammer Keyan, for a point more) You can actually further mitigate the defense issue on Keyan in a few ways - one is flying with Airen Cracken - allowing you to trigger expose + EI in combat phase, after p.s. 9 and 8 things fire) And as you mentioned - biggs, which is a decent idea with a b-wing around today.

Expose has a few places where you can fit it in, usually though - it's a bit more trouble than it is worth. Expose can function well with glitterstim too. Generally speaking - to use it well, you've got to solve 2 issues : and most of the time, there are better options for the same cost / solution.

Agi Penalty
Action efficiency

And you've got to be cost effective while doing it.

Interestingly Enough - this is what makes Guri a relatively good place for Expose - She can outposition to mitigate defensive issues, and she gets a free focus to plug atop expose as an action. Most of the time, she could just target lock instead, but she can save the lock and stack focus + tl + expose. The question though - is how many uses can you safely get? - and is it much better than just being lone wolf guri?


Also- Corran Horn, BB8, EI, Expose, FCS can be pretty awesome - allowing for 2x exposed shots - with modifiers, and the movment to get him out of the way - and like keyan, negates the stress issue, and keeps you pretty mobile.

Here is a dirty trick

Corran Horn (35)

Expose (4)

Fire-Control System (2)

R2-D2 (4)

Hull Upgrade (3)

Airen Cracken (19)

Decoy (2)

Knave Squadron Pilot (27)

Fire-Control System (2)

R2 Astromech (1)

Total: 99

View in Yet Another Squad Builder

Have Craken shoot at PS 1 then give Corran the free action to Expose and he gets the Extra dice for the double tap and since Cracken is PS 1 there is a chance no one will shoot at Corran with the lower agility

It works well but you need to know how to fly it

4 points for one extra die on one attack when it involves taking Expose on a pilot who DESPERATELY wants PTL or VI?

Umm

Here is a dirty trick

Corran Horn (35)

Expose (4)

Fire-Control System (2)

R2-D2 (4)

Hull Upgrade (3)

Airen Cracken (19)

Decoy (2)

Knave Squadron Pilot (27)

Fire-Control System (2)

R2 Astromech (1)

Total: 99

View in Yet Another Squad Builder

Have Craken shoot at PS 1 then give Corran the free action to Expose and he gets the Extra dice for the double tap and since Cracken is PS 1 there is a chance no one will shoot at Corran with the lower agility

It works well but you need to know how to fly it

4 points for one extra die on one attack when it involves taking Expose on a pilot who DESPERATELY wants PTL or VI?

Umm

I call it fun

it has worked well for me before its realy good when you get behind some one rang 1 and roll 10 dice

Except it won't be ten dice, it'll be 9, or 1 extra die every other round over what you could have rolled anyway. Unless you're somehow getting Airen to Expose Corran before BOTH his shots in which case he's taking the defence penalty for most of the round.

If you get behind someone and roll 8 dice it's just as good.

Hmmm ... action advantage. Rey with either MF title, Kyle Katarn, Kanan Jarrus, Expose, Experimental Interface optional (yeah, I know everyone prefers EU on Falcons). Once you start clearing stress its a focus every round plus Rey's ability in arc.

Sill a trap, but a fun problem.

Youngster with Howl and Crack swarm works, I played it during a tournament even. The average number of hits for 3 dice Howl is slightly better then 2 dice focus Howl - with the added chance to land 3 hits (which is IMPOSSIBLE with 2 dice focus). Combined with crack that's threatening Aces with every single TIE you have. Plus you don't have to expose, you can still fall back to normal focus Howl if needed!

You know who else has 0 agility? Lothal Rebels.

You know who else has 0 agility? Lothal Rebels.

You know who doesnt have an EPT slot? Lothal Rebels.

Whoops. Forgot that VCX don't have astromechs.

Whoops. Forgot that VCX don't have astromechs.

That's because Chopper murders them if they ever come onboard.

Can you make it viable?

No.

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Can you make it viable?

No.

This has been another episode of Short Answers to Simple Questions. Tune in next time...!

Why wouldn't Zuckuss with Expose flown next to a Manaroo with PtL be viable?

Except it won't be ten dice, it'll be 9, or 1 extra die every other round over what you could have rolled anyway. Unless you're somehow getting Airen to Expose Corran before BOTH his shots in which case he's taking the defence penalty for most of the round.

If you get behind someone and roll 8 dice it's just as good.

No it would be 10. Expose raises your primary value by 1 for the entire round. Corran's second shot is still in the round he exposed. 3 primary +1 range one + 1 from expose = 5. Then Corran's second shot, in the round, would make that x2 =10

Can you make it viable?

No.

This has been another episode of Short Answers to Simple Questions. Tune in next time...!

Why wouldn't Zuckuss with Expose flown next to a Manaroo with PtL be viable?

Because you're spending 4 points and an action to reduce Zuckuss' agility to 0. That's not counting the direct cost of running Manaroo, at 30+ points or more, and because she's giving all her tokens to Zuckuss she's not modifying her own dice.

Let's assume the best case scenario, here: both ships are at Range 1, and Manaroo has passed focus and TL to Zuckuss. You paid 62 points for 7.125 average hits and crits across 2 attacks.

Now let's sub out Expose for PTL on Zuckuss, and swap out PTL for Unhinged + K4 on Manaroo. Same total cost, same number of stress tokens, but even with fewer dice the better action economy means the average hits and crits across those two attacks goes up to 7.5. EDIT: and Zuckuss keeps his green die.

Expose is a bad card.

Won a small tournament today with Exposed RAC and Soontir Fel. Beat Imp Aces, Imp A-Holes, and Dash/Lothal. I don't think people expect the sheer offense that is RAC + Expose + TL + Palpatine. 3 hits 2 crits is what you're gonna get at range 1. I never lost Fel and only lost a Decimator and a half (1/25th?).