Obligatory Wave 5 Speculation Thread

By DUR, in Star Wars: Armada

I'd like to see NEW objectives! Maybe some objectives that revolve around the new Interdictor cruiser.

Tector class Star Destroyers...cause with flotillas I'm not gonna need all the extra squadron activations. Defiantly give it more hull than an ISD and less (maybe 0) squadron.

Rebel and Imperial veteran squadrons as well as new fighters (TIE Phantoms and Defenders for sure).

Grand Admiral Thrawn and Admiral Piett need to work their way into this game as well.

Skipray blastboats

The True Imperial heavy bomber, would bookend nicely with Decimators, TIE Avengers & TIE Defenders as the next Imperial squadron pack.

I think you are missing more than the Lamda Shuttle, what about Kylo Ren's Shuttle, the First Order Landing Craft and the Resistance Landing Craft (Leia lands in it)? .

None of which have been included in x-wing yet.

Although his list IS missing the Tie/FO and the T-70 I tend to lump those in with regular tie fighters and x-wings though, especially at this scale.

I think you are missing more than the Lamda Shuttle, what about Kylo Ren's Shuttle, the First Order Landing Craft and the Resistance Landing Craft (Leia lands in it)? .

None of which have been included in x-wing yet.

Although his list IS missing the Tie/FO and the T-70 I tend to lump those in with regular tie fighters and x-wings though, especially at this scale.

The exclusion of those two was intentional on my part because I feel there would be no discernible difference in the models at this scale.

You were right about me forgetting the Advanced Prototype though. Completely forgot about it.

I'll trade the dopey weird-wing Skipray blastboat for the majestic XG-1 Assault Gunboat in a heartbeat.

Edited by Norsehound

While I would love to see more scenarios and asymetrical missions for Armada (the only thing Star Wars Attack wing is any good in) I also have a revised whishlist for ships:

Wave 5:

Imperium:

- Ton-Falk-class escort carrier

- Lancer Frigate

Alliance:

- Neutron Star-class Bulk Cruiser

- Quasar escort carrier

Wave 6:

Imperium:

- Strike cruiser

- Imperial Fighter part II (Xg-1, TIE-Avenger, TIE-Defender, TIE-Phantom, TIE-Heavy Bomber)

Alliance:

- Mc40

Scum (Rebels, Pirates and others):

- Fighterpack (Z-95, T-Wing, R-41 Starchasers ...)

Wave 7:

Imperium:

- Nebulon B2

- System Patrol Craft

Alliance:

- Assualt frigate Mk.I

- CC 7700 frigate

Both sides

- Dreadnought

- Transport and shuttles (Lambda Shuttle,Delta-class JV-7 Escort shuttles, Delta-class DX-9 Stromtrooper transport,Gamma-class ATR-6 Assault transport, Beta-class ETR-3 Assault transport)

Wave 8:

Imperium:

- Carrack Cruiser

- Tartan Cruiser

Alliance:

- DP20 Correllian Gunship

- Marauder

Wave 9:

Freighters, minefields and stations wave

Scout and Recon Pack (Y-Wing Longprobe, Recon A-Wing, TIE Scout, TIE Vanguard)

Wave 10:

New Republic:

- New Republic Fighters (E-Wing, K-Wing)

- Republic Star Destroyers

- Dauntless Cruiser

Wave 11:

CIS:

-Lucrehulk-class

-Providence-class

-Recusant-class light destroyer

-Droid Fighter packs

Both Sides/ Old Republic:

- Venator Class

- Acclamator class

- Old Republic Fighters (Arc, Jedi-Fighter, V-Wing)

Wave 12:

First order
Resurgent-class Star Destroyer
Nebulon-K

TIE/fo and TIE/sf and other untl then appeared First order fighters

Resistance
Until then appeared captial Ships
Nebulon-K

Republic/Resistance Carrack Cruiser
T-70 X-Wing, T-85 X-Wing, B-Wing Mk. II

Wave 13

Lesser Factions:
Mandalorian

Hapan
Chiss

Wave 14

Criminal Factions:

Hutt and Blacksun ships (destroyer size max.)

@DScipio - I love your list up to Wave 9. 10 and after I would not care for, but 5-9 I am with you 110%.

There are so many ships I want to see, that it would be hard to list them all.

As for the next wave... I wouldn't be surprised if it was a fighter pack wave, that would have been part of the last 2. Maybe aces packs with new pilots like Ciena Ree.

I would like to see squadron upgrades. Maybe some Titles like Rogue Squadron, or Wraith; they could give the new abilities, like all X-Wings get Swarm, or another keyword. That would cause some crazy changes to the meta

@DScipio - I love your list up to Wave 9. 10 and after I would not care for, but 5-9 I am with you 110%.

To be honest: Neither am I.

I would actually love CIS tbh. They have some pretty cool ships and characters and you could do some interesting things with a (mostly) droid faction.

And if you're going that far into the niw defunct EU, you might as well throw in the Vong........

(Blech - I feel dirty even typing that)

The thing is there are multiple classes of large base sized Star Destroyers in both canon and Legends. The Tectors appear in Return of the Jedi briefly and are identified by name as being at Endor in one of the canon short stories, the Secutors appear in Tarkin and the Venators would be large base ships as well since they are basically the same size as the MC80s

I didn't even know this was a thing in the movie thanks for the info!

I'll trade the dopey weird-wing Skipray blastboat for the majestic XG-1 Assault Gunboat in a heartbeat.

Yeah but the skipray can equip capital ship grade cannons

FFG has in one of their games stated that Venator class star destroyers were guarding the route to Endor.

I don't see any issue with Imperials having only 1 large ship. On the table the homeone mc80 looks puny in size, it's more inline with a vsd. Looking at the balancing, they are pretty spot on. You can argue that the Imperials need a counterpart to the neb.

based on stats and likely tactics:

cr90 = raider

mk2 = vsd

mc30 = gsd

interdictor < mc80 homeone

isd > mc80 liberty

transport = gozanti

nebulon b = ???

I don't see any issue with Imperials having only 1 large ship. On the table the homeone mc80 looks puny in size, it's more inline with a vsd. Looking at the balancing, they are pretty spot on. You can argue that the Imperials need a counterpart to the neb.

based on stats and likely tactics:

cr90 = raider

mk2 = vsd

mc30 = gsd

interdictor < mc80 homeone

isd > mc80 liberty

transport = gozanti

nebulon b = ???

Nebulon B = Super Star Destroyer.

Nothing unfair about that at all...

Nebulon B = Arquitens

Yeah sooner or later it would be nice for Imperials to achieve ship number parity with Rebels. It's not something that drives me nuts, just... it would be nice.

If the Empire needs a counterpart to the Nebulon-B, make it the Loronar Strike Cruiser. It is an exceedingly modular ship which could mean a large variety of upgrade cards included with the ship. This modular design however allowed critical damage to occur if the connection areas were hit by heavy weaponry (or Rogue Squadron plot weaponry). 2 were meant to be a match for a Vic, so that about as Neb as you can get for the Empire.

I'm hoping for the Neb-B2. Nearly the same ship as the Nebulon, but there are some avenues for improvement/change. The distinction could be as much as the MC30 is compared to the GSD. Not sure how or where (maybe even arcs), but I hope it could work for red-dice attack strategies.

Really, just something that's not continuing to support the blue-black Imperial meta would be nice.

Edited by Norsehound

I don't see any issue with Imperials having only 1 large ship. On the table the homeone mc80 looks puny in size, it's more inline with a vsd. Looking at the balancing, they are pretty spot on. You can argue that the Imperials need a counterpart to the neb.

based on stats and likely tactics:

cr90 = raider

mk2 = vsd

mc30 = gsd

interdictor < mc80 homeone

isd > mc80 liberty

transport = gozanti

nebulon b = ???

The Nebulon B is an Imperial ship too.

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Actually I wouldn't mind seeing the broadside and marauder cruiser be released for the Imperials and Rebels respectively.

Ship Ability: Front Arc Black dice can only be used at long range. Equipped with natural ACM.

Give us a long range artillery platform with drawbacks at close range and maybe a reason to sit at speed one.

I don't see any issue with Imperials having only 1 large ship. On the table the homeone mc80 looks puny in size, it's more inline with a vsd. Looking at the balancing, they are pretty spot on. You can argue that the Imperials need a counterpart to the neb.

based on stats and likely tactics:

cr90 = raider

mk2 = vsd

mc30 = gsd

interdictor < mc80 homeone

isd > mc80 liberty

transport = gozanti

nebulon b = ???

The Nebulon B is an Imperial ship too.

The Nebulon B is an Imperial ship too.

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"The EF76 Nebulon-B frigate was a capital ship manufactured by Kuat Drive Yards and was used by the Alliance to Restore the Republic throughout the Galactic Civil War."

That's all that's stated in the new "Canon" now.

The Times... The Are A Changin'.

FFG seems to have really pulled back on using stuff from the Expanded Universe. I wouldn't count on anything else coming out from that source material. It's more likely anything currently in development is from new Disney material, or anything from the OT that hasn't been done yet. I'd expect something from either The Force Awakens, Rebels, or Rogue One in the immediate future rather than things like Dreadnoughts or Assault Frigate Mk I stuff. The Prequels actually offer all kinds of stuff for Armada, but they seem reluctant to use that as well. So, let's hope Rogue One has some cool new ships or old ones that made it into the new canon.

Btw, were Dreadnoughts or Z-95s ever used in the movies? I expected to see them in the Prequels but if they were there I never spotted one.

FFG seems to have really pulled back on using stuff from the Expanded Universe. I wouldn't count on anything else coming out from that source material. It's more likely anything currently in development is from new Disney material, or anything from the OT that hasn't been done yet. I'd expect something from either The Force Awakens, Rebels, or Rogue One in the immediate future rather than things like Dreadnoughts or Assault Frigate Mk I stuff. The Prequels actually offer all kinds of stuff for Armada, but they seem reluctant to use that as well. So, let's hope Rogue One has some cool new ships or old ones that made it into the new canon.

Btw, were Dreadnoughts or Z-95s ever used in the movies? I expected to see them in the Prequels but if they were there I never spotted one.

I belive that Z-95's showed up in The Clone Wars cartoon. I could be mistaken. The artwork bugged me too much to watch it even though I hear the story in got really good as it went.

Edited by Salted Diamond