If you had to do an Epic game with only small ships which ships would you use?

By OmegaLeader144, in X-Wing

Serissu, title, Heavy Laser Cannon, Push the Limit, Stealth Device (35)

10x Tansarii Point Veterans with title and Heavy Laser Cannon (26 each = 260)

EDIT: Alternatively, make it 7 Cartel Spacers and 4 Tansarii Point Veterans. This puts you at 300 with 12 Scyks. I think I like the higher PS to take on swarms, though.

By the way, Aggressors are large ships, not small ships, so I don't think they fit in this thread, unless the OP simply meant not-huge.

I meant only small-based ships.

Edited by OmegaLeader144

They do as far as upgrades and pilot abilities are concerned.

Because as far as upgrades and pilot abilities are concerned, a ship's name only needs to partially match.

As far as the actual rules are concerned, they are not the same ship. If they were, it would be legal for me to put standard TIE Fighter models on TIE/fo bases when I play TIE/fos. It isn't.

Actually, if the card is just TIE limited and not TIE fighter limited then it can apply to literally any TIE series ship. And your right. The two ship are not considered he same. I doesn't work like that with the T-70/T-65 X-wings so it doesn't work between the TIE fighter/fo

Apparently he doesn't work like that.

Edit: that was his original post.

Edited by OmegaLeader144

Full old school TIE 8-ship swarm, then a couple each of Defenders and Bombers/Punisher with cannons and ordnance. Maybe one ace like the Inquisitor or Fel for counter-ace tactics.

A whole lot of Kyz with mindlink, Palob with mindlink and TLT (for insurance), a few cheap Z-95 (for blockers) and Kaa'to with an assault missile, crackshot and guidance chip.

Kyz with mindlink are brutal in epic because of the PS 5, relatively low cost (24 points) and the huge amount of damage that they can do with Target lock and focus combined.

Serissu, title, Heavy Laser Cannon, Push the Limit, Stealth Device (35)

10x Tansarii Point Veterans with title and Heavy Laser Cannon (26 each = 260)

EDIT: Alternatively, make it 7 Cartel Spacers and 4 Tansarii Point Veterans. This puts you at 300 with 12 Scyks. I think I like the higher PS to take on swarms, though.

I've had Scyks and Mindlink on my mind, but Kihraxz Fighters with it also sounds awesome! I've really enjoyed flying them when I do. I'd think that they don't need to K-turn as much with the 1 sharp turn they have.

I like my Scyks, but I still think putting HLC on them is too much. I'd probably go with Manglers. Well, maybe Laetin w/ HLC for troll factor! TPV with Squad Leader...oooh....SL only works on those lower, but Bodyguard works with those above! There you go.

Oh, if I were doing Scum vs. an epic with a big ship? I'd love putting Ion Cannons on a bunch of those guys!

Is 300 pts too much? I wonder if 200 pts of all small ships would be better?

I had to throw in Xizor with this as he would just be too fun to have in a game like this. Serrissu, as well.

Black Sun Ace (23)
Attanni Mindlink (1)
Black Sun Ace (23)
Attanni Mindlink (1)
Black Sun Ace (23)
Attanni Mindlink (1)
Tansarii Point Veteran (17)
Attanni Mindlink (1)
"Mangler" Cannon (4)
"Heavy Scyk" Interceptor (Cannon) (2)
Tansarii Point Veteran (17)
Attanni Mindlink (1)
"Mangler" Cannon (4)
"Heavy Scyk" Interceptor (Cannon) (2)
Tansarii Point Veteran (17)
Attanni Mindlink (1)
"Mangler" Cannon (4)
"Heavy Scyk" Interceptor (Cannon) (2)
Binayre Pirate (12)
Binayre Pirate (12)
Binayre Pirate (12)
Binayre Pirate (12)
Prince Xizor (31)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Ion Torpedoes (5)
Fire-Control System (2)
Autothrusters (2)
Virago (1)
Serissu (20)
Attanni Mindlink (1)
Laetin A'shera (18)
Heavy Laser Cannon (7)
Shield Upgrade (4)
"Heavy Scyk" Interceptor (Cannon) (2)
Black Sun Soldier (13)
Total: 299

Y wings loaded with TLT and T70's with R2 and IA.

Tanky Etahn build

Oh, if I were doing Scum vs. an epic with a big ship? I'd love putting Ion Cannons on a bunch of those guys!

The solution that I found for Scums vs an epic ship was simple:

Trandoshan Slaver, Greedo, Boba Fett, 4-Lom and title.

The first 3 upgrades push the Slaver to 32 points, the title adds an extra 6. It's costly, but it's still 12 hull/shield to chew through with 1 agility dice (which can matter). If ignored, the Slaver can really punish any huge ship by dealing crits and using Boba Fett. If not ignored, it soaks up a lot of the damage that would be otherwise done to your fleet and if it blows up, well you gain a free Z-95.

Just one time, I'd like to throw this on the table:

A-Wing: Prototype Pilot (17)
Chardaan Refit (-2)

A-Wing: Prototype Pilot (17)
Chardaan Refit (-2)

A-Wing: Prototype Pilot (17)
Chardaan Refit (-2)

A-Wing: Prototype Pilot (17)
Chardaan Refit (-2)

A-Wing: Prototype Pilot (17)
Chardaan Refit (-2)

A-Wing: Prototype Pilot (17)
Chardaan Refit (-2)

A-Wing: Prototype Pilot (17)
Chardaan Refit (-2)

A-Wing: Prototype Pilot (17)
Chardaan Refit (-2)

A-Wing: Prototype Pilot (17)
Chardaan Refit (-2)

A-Wing: Prototype Pilot (17)
Chardaan Refit (-2)

A-Wing: Prototype Pilot (17)
Chardaan Refit (-2)

A-Wing: Prototype Pilot (17)
Chardaan Refit (-2)

A-Wing: Prototype Pilot (17)
Chardaan Refit (-2)

A-Wing: Prototype Pilot (17)
Chardaan Refit (-2)

A-Wing: Prototype Pilot (17)
Chardaan Refit (-2)

A-Wing: Prototype Pilot (17)
Chardaan Refit (-2)

A-Wing: Prototype Pilot (17)
Chardaan Refit (-2)

A-Wing: Prototype Pilot (17)
Chardaan Refit (-2)

A-Wing: · Jake Farrell (24)
Push The Limit (3)
Proton Rockets (3)
Guidance Chips (0)

......And watch my opponent's face melt when he realizes my firing arc coverage is.... the entire width of the play area.
Of course, it's bat-guano silly and I'm not insane enough to purchase enough Rebel Aces boxes to cover both the ships and the Chardaan Refit cards.

12 of the same type of ship is the maximum anyway (for small ships), but I have seen first hand what happens when a Tie Swarm meets another Tie Swarm (I think over 30 ships on the board). Exciting in theory, but in practice, let's say there were still plently of units left on the table when time ran out ;)

Defenders defenders and more defenders.

Did I mention Defenders?

A dozen Thug TLT's. Unhinged Astromech.

A dozen Thug TLT's. Unhinged Astromech.

That setup is pure evil... do it.

Epic, you say...

With no Epic ships, you say...

So what makes it... Epic? Other than the fact that you have more than 100 points per side?

It should be an epic fight, just not... Epic IMO.

Still... should be fun, whatever you play!

Epic, you say...

With no Epic ships, you say...

So what makes it... Epic? Other than the fact that you have more than 100 points per side?

It should be an epic fight, just not... Epic IMO.

Still... should be fun, whatever you play!

It's more Epic Dogfight format. FFG is running a similar event at Gencon, though large is allowed. I'm hoping to play regular epic tomorrow with corvettes and transports and such... Really don't get to play enough of that.

Basically:
6x Dagger squadrons with Proton/plasmas and EM + guidance chips
1x Nera, same setup
1x Etahn, as tanky as possible
1x PS9 Poe with predator + focus regen bot.

Guidance chips gives crits instead of hits. Etahn gives crits. Proton gives crits.
Etahn for crits, nera for fun and Poe for picking out targets with lower PS.
PS4 is a must-have with swarms... Bring it on!


Nera Dantels (26)
Proton Torpedoes (4)
Extra Munitions (2)
Guidance Chips (0)
Etahn A'baht (32)
Push the Limit (3)
Sensor Jammer (4)
Flechette Torpedoes (2)
R2-D2 (4)
Shield Upgrade (4)
Dagger Squadron Pilot (24)
Proton Torpedoes (4)
Extra Munitions (2)
Guidance Chips (0)
Dagger Squadron Pilot (24)
Proton Torpedoes (4)
Extra Munitions (2)
Guidance Chips (0)
Dagger Squadron Pilot (24)
Plasma Torpedoes (3)
Extra Munitions (2)
Guidance Chips (0)
Dagger Squadron Pilot (24)
Plasma Torpedoes (3)
Extra Munitions (2)
Guidance Chips (0)
Dagger Squadron Pilot (24)
Plasma Torpedoes (3)
Extra Munitions (2)
Guidance Chips (0)
Dagger Squadron Pilot (24)
Plasma Torpedoes (3)
Extra Munitions (2)
Guidance Chips (0)
Poe Dameron (PS9) (33)
Predator (3)
R5-P9 (3)
Autothrusters (2)
Total: 298
Edited by ModernPenguin

Basically:

6x Dagger squadrons with Proton/plasmas and EM + guidance chips

1x Nera, same setup

1x Etahn, as tanky as possible

1x PS9 Poe with predator + focus regen bot.

Guidance chips gives crits instead of hits. Etahn gives crits. Proton gives crits.

Etahn for crits, nera for fun and Poe for picking out targets with lower PS.

PS4 is a must-have with swarms... Bring it on!

Nera Dantels (26)

Proton Torpedoes (4)
Extra Munitions (2)
Guidance Chips (0)
Etahn A'baht (32)
Push the Limit (3)
Sensor Jammer (4)
Flechette Torpedoes (2)
R2-D2 (4)
Shield Upgrade (4)
Dagger Squadron Pilot (24)
Proton Torpedoes (4)
Extra Munitions (2)
Guidance Chips (0)
Dagger Squadron Pilot (24)
Proton Torpedoes (4)
Extra Munitions (2)
Guidance Chips (0)
Dagger Squadron Pilot (24)
Plasma Torpedoes (3)
Extra Munitions (2)
Guidance Chips (0)
Dagger Squadron Pilot (24)
Plasma Torpedoes (3)
Extra Munitions (2)
Guidance Chips (0)
Dagger Squadron Pilot (24)
Plasma Torpedoes (3)
Extra Munitions (2)
Guidance Chips (0)
Dagger Squadron Pilot (24)
Plasma Torpedoes (3)
Extra Munitions (2)
Guidance Chips (0)
Poe Dameron (PS9) (33)
Predator (3)
R5-P9 (3)
Autothrusters (2)
Total: 298

Nice setup.

Defenders defenders and more defenders.

Did I mention Defenders?

-twitch- -twitch- I feel something...a yearning inside...must...resist....buying more defenders! I already have three, but oh, how beautiful would it be to see 10 Delta Squadron Pilots screaming across the table? I can hardly contain my excitement!

Defenders defenders and more defenders.

Did I mention Defenders?

-twitch- -twitch- I feel something...a yearning inside...must...resist....buying more defenders! I already have three, but oh, how beautiful would it be to see 10 Delta Squadron Pilots screaming across the table? I can hardly contain my excitement!

Give in to the Dark Side!!!

Wes Janson (29)

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R3-A2 (2)

Hull Upgrade (3)


Wedge Antilles (29)

Predator (3)

Proton Torpedoes (4)

R5-P9 (3)

Shield Upgrade (4)


Luke Skywalker (28)

Predator (3)

Proton Torpedoes (4)

R2-D2 (4)

Shield Upgrade (4)


Garven Dreis (26)

Proton Torpedoes (4)

R2-D6 (1)

Veteran Instincts (1)

Hull Upgrade (3)


Jek Porkins (26)

Rage (1)

Proton Torpedoes (4)

R5-D8 (3)

Hull Upgrade (3)


"Hobbie" Klivian (25)

Proton Torpedoes (4)

R7 Astromech (2)

Hull Upgrade (3)


Biggs Darklighter (25)

Proton Torpedoes (4)

R2-F2 (3)

Shield Upgrade (4)


Tarn Mison (23)

Proton Torpedoes (4)

R7 Astromech (2)

Hull Upgrade (3)


Total: 299



Edited by TheRabidAardvark

Wes Janson (29)

Veteran Instincts (1)

Proton Torpedoes (4)

R3-A2 (2)

Hull Upgrade (3)

Wedge Antilles (29)

Predator (3)

Proton Torpedoes (4)

R5-P9 (3)

Shield Upgrade (4)

Luke Skywalker (28)

Predator (3)

Proton Torpedoes (4)

R2-D2 (4)

Shield Upgrade (4)

Garven Dreis (26)

Proton Torpedoes (4)

R2-D6 (1)

Veteran Instincts (1)

Hull Upgrade (3)

Jek Porkins (26)

Rage (1)

Proton Torpedoes (4)

R5-D8 (3)

Hull Upgrade (3)

"Hobbie" Klivian (25)

Proton Torpedoes (4)

R7 Astromech (2)

Hull Upgrade (3)

Biggs Darklighter (25)

Proton Torpedoes (4)

R2-F2 (3)

Shield Upgrade (4)

Tarn Mison (23)

Proton Torpedoes (4)

R7 Astromech (2)

Hull Upgrade (3)

Total: 299

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This is so tempting to fly...

I am not very epic oriented so I have given this a thought if someone would made me to play Epic. I would go with about 9 T-70 X-Wings and maybe fill up with Z-95.

NO ESCAPE

300 points

PILOTS

Epsilon Squadron Pilot (15) x 6

Delta Squadron Pilot (30) x 6

Cutlass Squadron Pilot (30)
TIE Punisher (21), Advanced Sensors (3), Extra Munitions (2), Flechette Torpedoes (2), XX-23 S-thread Tracers (1), XX-23 S-thread Tracers (1), Long Range Scanners (0)

DEFEND THE EMPIRE

298 points

PILOTS

Glaive Squadron Pilot (34) x 7

Delta Squadron Pilot (30) x 2

ULTIMATE TIE SWARM

297 points

PILOTS

Academy Pilot (12) x 11

Epsilon Squadron Pilot (15) x 11

I know this isn't small ships only, but I'd still like to play this squad:

FLOTILLA

300 points

PILOTS

Gozanti-class Cruiser (45) x 6
Gozanti-Class Cruiser (40), Dual Laser Turret (5)

Epsilon Squadron Pilot (15) x 2

Or this:

RAIDERS

299 points

PILOTS

Raider-class Corvette (aft) (76)
Raider-class Corvette (50), Intelligence Agent (1), Agent Kallus (2), Ion Cannon Battery (6), Quad Laser Cannons (6), Sensor Team (4), Engineering Team (4), Backup Shield Generator (3)

Raider-class Corvette (fore) (67)
Raider-class Corvette (50), Single Turbolasers (8), Gunnery Team (4), Backup Shield Generator (3), Assailer (2)

Raider-class Corvette (aft) (76)
Raider-class Corvette (50), Intelligence Agent (1), Admiral Ozzel (2), Ion Cannon Battery (6), Quad Laser Cannons (6), Sensor Team (4), Engineering Team (4), Backup Shield Generator (3)

Raider-class Corvette (fore) (68)
Raider-class Corvette (50), Single Turbolasers (8), Gunnery Team (4), Backup Shield Generator (3), Impetuous (3)

Academy Pilot (12)