Comms net vs Tantive IV

By miedomeda, in Star Wars: Armada Rules Questions

I think I read this somewhere, but today looking for it I couldn't find anything, so here I go.

What's the difference between the Tantive IV title and the comms net fleet support upgrade? In my understanding, despite using different wording, they pretty much work the same way.

Tantive: before you gain a command token, 1 ship at distance 1-5 may gain that token instead.

Comms net: after the reveal command dial step, you may remove 1 command token from this ship to assign a matching token to another friendly ship at distance 1-5.

How I use Tantive: i used it in a Rieekan fleet with independence and yavaris to hand tokens over to the other 2 ships. Having Rieekan means that I normally activate Tantive first and give out a token, then I activated my other "tokened" ships. Specifically, I hand out a token matching the dial during (ok, techincally "after") my Reveal command dial step.

How I understand comms net: it's basically a Tantive on steroids, since by my reading you can 1) reveal command dial (say: repair) -> token it -> pass a token, all in the same turn. or 2) start turn with a repair token -> reveal command dial (say: navigate) -> hand over repair token.

Is this correct or is there something crucial I am missing?

There is the subtle difference.

In the Tantive IV, it is only the other ship that gains the Token. And it gains it instead. So it must be the token you are creating now.

Comms net allows the transfer of an existing token, which it might have gained it from someone else, or another turn.

... and of course, you could chain them together to send a token 2' across the board.

But for the most part, yes, they accomplish essentially the same thing... Only only difference is, of course, the platform that they are on... Because you won't see Imperials using Tantive-IV for anything more than Tractorbait anytime soon :D

Raymus is the major difference.

Tantive can pass tokens recieved via a comms net straight on down the line. A Gr75 can only do this with delay and if it did not have a token waiting.

If you use coms net to pass an existing token, can you token the revealed dial? I suspect not.

I think I read this somewhere, but today looking for it I couldn't find anything, so here I go.

What's the difference between the Tantive IV title and the comms net fleet support upgrade? In my understanding, despite using different wording, they pretty much work the same way.

Tantive: before you gain a command token, 1 ship at distance 1-5 may gain that token instead.

Comms net: after the reveal command dial step, you may remove 1 command token from this ship to assign a matching token to another friendly ship at distance 1-5.

How I use Tantive: i used it in a Rieekan fleet with independence and yavaris to hand tokens over to the other 2 ships. Having Rieekan means that I normally activate Tantive first and give out a token, then I activated my other "tokened" ships. Specifically, I hand out a token matching the dial during (ok, techincally "after") my Reveal command dial step.

How I understand comms net: it's basically a Tantive on steroids, since by my reading you can 1) reveal command dial (say: repair) -> token it -> pass a token, all in the same turn. or 2) start turn with a repair token -> reveal command dial (say: navigate) -> hand over repair token.

Is this correct or is there something crucial I am missing?

Basically, Comms Net requires the flotilla to activate and reveal a dial before it can pass the token. Tantive can do it any time it gains a token.

Edited by thecactusman17

Tantive can't actually pass a token it already has--it's one of the only actual advantages Comm Net has over it. Tantive has to choose at the time of receiving the token whether to pass it or keep it for itself.

If Tantive has a Veteran Captain on board can it pass on a token to 2 friendly ships in the same turn? Once from the command and once for discarding the Veteran captain.

If Tantive has a Veteran Captain on board can it pass on a token to 2 friendly ships in the same turn? Once from the command and once for discarding the Veteran captain.

Yes, as a one shot.

The trigger being - when it would Gain a Token.

You could even Comms Net a Token over to Tantive, who could then Tantive it across to someone else who was otherwise out of Comms Net range...

Thanks. A few more clarifications if I may....

If Tantive has a repair token banked from a previous turn, can it...

  1. Reveal a Nav command, take it as a nav token and immediately pass it on and keep the repair token for later.
  2. Spend the repair token to move a shield point around and then reveal a Nav Command (and spend the command or pass on the nav token)

1. No. Because then it would have 2 tokens, even if it's just for a moment.

2. No. Because you reveal commands before using the engineering token.

1. No. Because then it would have 2 tokens, even if it's just for a moment.

I disagree. Tantive triggers before you gain the token, meaning that at no point do you have multiple at the same time.

1. No. Because then it would have 2 tokens, even if it's just for a moment.

I disagree. Tantive triggers before you gain the token, meaning that at no point do you have multiple at the same time.

Hmm...that's interesting. It say before you gain...never noticed.

But it doesn't seem like you can pass on an already stored token...it says 'that token', referring to the just-reveled command, no?

But it doesn't seem like you can pass on an already stored token...it says 'that token', referring to the just-reveled command, no?

Correct.

Tantive IV can only pass on the Token it is gaining , not any other token.

The other limitation is that Tantive IV elects to use its command Dial, then it needs Raymus Antilles to have at token to pass on.

The Comms Net passes on the Token it already has, which is one leftover from a previous round, or the token it just gained from the command dial not being used..

Of course, that's basically the same thing...

But Tantive-IV will never change at this point, and there is the future possibility to Comms Net being placed on something other than a Command-1 Ship, where you would have the choice of tokens to send.

Tantive can't actually pass a token it already has--it's one of the only actual advantages Comm Net has over it. Tantive has to choose at the time of receiving the token whether to pass it or keep it for itself.

You're correct, and I amended my original thought but it still wasn't clear. Tantive can pass more than two tokens in a round by receiving and passing them from another source, then activating and passing any tokens gained during its activation. Comms Net can only pass tokens it gains during its own activation after revealing is own command dial.