Talonbane Cobra in a StarViper.

I know at least a few others are interested in this idea. I don't think he's going to singlehandedly fix the Viper, the ship would need additional cards for that, but I don't think anyone would argue that he wouldn't be better off flying the Viper as opposed to his K-Fighter. There's now a precedent for PS9 to be added (Poe) and for pilots to switch ships (Hera). Han is even getting a reprint, even though it's in the same ship it gives you two cards for the same pilot to choose from.

Does anyone think it could work? I'm not optimistic, and I'd honestly just be happy with any Scum ace at this point.

And here I thought this was a BSG Viper post ...

Talonbane's ability in a StarViper would be fun ... but really nasty with Autothrusters.

Talonbane Viper at range 3 would have 5 green die. Add cloaking device, Lone Wolf and auto thrusters for 7 green die with lots of modifications. Hmmm sounds a bit much no?

Attanni Mindlink and Cloaking Device have made me revisit TC.

And I think he's fine. He might not be top-tier, but giving him cheap upgrades is the key to success with him IMO.

I really think FFG wanted to avoid giving Scum an ace similar to the Imperial ones. Even the Rebels really only have Jake.

Let the Empire have their aces, the Rebels have their large ships and regen, and give the Scum more budget tricks (e.g. 4LOM, Zuckuss, Boba, Greedo).

Talonbane Viper at range 3 would have 5 green die. Add cloaking device, Lone Wolf and auto thrusters for 7 green die with lots of modifications. Hmmm sounds a bit much no?

No.

As long as he's priced right it sounds fine. Not likely to be a lot worse than Soontir in the same situation; Cobra will have a lot fewer tokens in most builds.

Even seven greens are likely to fail when you need them not to.

Green dice fail, cloaking devices fail and Secondary weapons cancel the extra dice. So it's not very over powered, no.

Give me a cheap upgrade (maybe one that works only 1 round) that would allow his ability to work at range 3 vs cannons and then he would be a worthy contender without putting him in another ship. Right now, however, there are just too many cannons, TLTs and ordnance to make him "safe" to use in a tournament.

Just my 2 cents.

Give me a cheap upgrade (maybe one that works only 1 round) that would allow his ability to work at range 3 vs cannons and then he would be a worthy contender without putting him in another ship. Right now, however, there are just too many cannons, TLTs and ordnance to make him "safe" to use in a tournament.

Just my 2 cents.

Attanni Mindlink and Cloaking Device have made me revisit TC.

And I think he's fine. He might not be top-tier, but giving him cheap upgrades is the key to success with him IMO.

I really think FFG wanted to avoid giving Scum an ace similar to the Imperial ones. Even the Rebels really only have Jake.

Let the Empire have their aces, the Rebels have their large ships and regen, and give the Scum more budget tricks (e.g. 4LOM, Zuckuss, Boba, Greedo).

I'll at least take a Jake for Scum! The closest we have is Guri, but she can't compete very good above PS5. Talonbane Viper could get both Cobra and the Viper on the table.

talonbane in a starviper, still nowhere near as cool as Palob in a starviper with sensor jammers

talonbane in a starviper, still nowhere near as cool as Palob in a starviper with sensor jammers

A small but significant step up from Guri.

Talonbane Cobra in a StarViper.

I know at least a few others are interested in this idea. I don't think he's going to singlehandedly fix the Viper, the ship would need additional cards for that, but I don't think anyone would argue that he wouldn't be better off flying the Viper as opposed to his K-Fighter. There's now a precedent for PS9 to be added (Poe) and for pilots to switch ships (Hera). Han is even getting a reprint, even though it's in the same ship it gives you two cards for the same pilot to choose from.

Does anyone think it could work? I'm not optimistic, and I'd honestly just be happy with any Scum ace at this point.

I agree that talonbane would be great in a starviper. But he doesn't singlehandedly fix the ship. All he does is give us 1 more ace that's good in it. Guri and Xizor are already good in the starviper, albeit talonbane would probalby be better. Doesn't change the fact that the generics are too expensive and the title is pretty much required on guri and xizor, which means you can't run them together.

Talonbane would be really cool and a perfect ace if his (her?) ability would work against secondary weapons as well.

As (s)he is now, one is wondering what the designers and playtesters were thinking. TC was released on an OK ship (a bit stiff jack of all trades with hard1 and decent firepower) paying through the nose for the ability - to be RIGHT away released into the TLT wave, and the current ordnance and tractor wave was already under preparation as well - what the heck!

Talonbane has one of the best pilot abilities if secondary weapons were a thing. I don't think it would have been better in a star viper. Sure Xizor has one of the worst abilities as ever but to be honest I think when S&V finally gets alternate pilots in a aces or epic pack those two ships will see some play.

Talonbane's main advantage in a starviper would be his PS9. You can then use him and put predator/SJ/AT/Glitter on there.