I've been messing around with a Rebel ARC-170 (Yes, the only time they show up in Rebel hands is during Galaxies, where basically every Clone Wars era ship is just awkwardly shoehorned in for no reason. But it's a ship that suits the Rebel style and they are well known for using salvaged Clone War junk in their forces.)

I like the ARC-170 for a couple of reasons. First, it's a cool ship, one of my favourites from the prequels. Second, it has both an Astromech and multiple Crew members, something unseen so far for Rebels (I went with a single Crew icon for my card, representing the copilot. The gunner is actively engaged on the ship, similarly to the Y-Wing.) Thirdly, it's a small-based ship with a Rear Auxiliary Firing Arc, which is a neat thing that doesn't exist yet.

The costing is extrapolated from the similarity of its numbers to the T-70. While it has a worse dial, the Crew upgrade is definitely a lot more flexible than Tech (At least currently).

Unfortunately, the rear arc provided in Strange Eons is quite hard to read on a small base. I might need to fiddle with that myself.

Seeing as we're in the realm of fanfiction already by giving Rebels the ARC-170, why not stick a familiar face in the cockpit. After all, who's going to fly one better than a Clone?

The voting document is ready; VOTE HERE!

Mangipan, your ARC-170 just barely made it in.

I suppose timing is everything.

I just put my votes in, but when I got to my V-Wing submission there were no voting options, just hit next and move on. I'm going to assume the system isn't so advanced that it knows my name and won't let me vote on my own cards?

I also put my votes in and there was 1 ship that the voting section did not show up for, I think it was the V-Wing not sure, but since I did not have any submissions in the ships section I am guessing it skipped yours?

You guys are right; one v-wing entry was missing the vote option, i fixed this and one should be there now. I think you might be able to go back and vote for it now with the edit response button or something (i checked that option when making the poll but have never tested to see how it works)

Apologies to the author for that entry!

The edit function does work.

When are people going to get to vote on Named Unique Pilots if you're only taking Generics in your Ship Entries document?

I mean I don't see the Scum YT-1300 or VT-49 Decimator, or the Rebel TIE fighter.

Just the three Generic YG-4210s.

We’ll be doing ships first, then upgrades and unique pilot cards after we know which 4 ships we’ll be creating.

If I read this right there isn't any point in submitting unique pilots until it is known which 4 are the final generic sets. I don't understand why you submitted a Unique X-wing Pilot if it isn't going to get voted on.

Am I going to have to come up with some Generic Scum VT-49 Decimator Pilots and Generic Rebel TIE fighter pilots as well?

By the way, what time zone is your midnight submission deadline?

....

I decided it would be better to subdivide the ships and unique pilots to allow ships to succeed or fail based on their stats and base cost, and unique pilots to succeed or fail based on their abilities. Otherwise we'd have to vote up or down on packages of cards, and people might have been confliucted about voting up or down a card pack based on components of it. For example if there was a great ship pack submitted, with a massively OP unique pilot, it would get downvoted for the OP pilot and fail. This way the good ships get through on their own merits (stats and cost), and unique pilots pass or fail on their merits (ability and cost).

In the case of my YG-4210 entry, it's rather the other way around.

I created generics that were unmodified, but the unique pilots have modified ships,

as per the history of the ship.

When are people going to get to vote on Named Unique Pilots if you're only taking Generics in your Ship Entries document?

I mean I don't see the Scum YT-1300 or VT-49 Decimator, or the Rebel TIE fighter.

Just the three Generic YG-4210s.

We’ll be doing ships first, then upgrades and unique pilot cards after we know which 4 ships we’ll be creating.

If I read this right there isn't any point in submitting unique pilots until it is known which 4 are the final generic sets. I don't understand why you submitted a Unique X-wing Pilot if it isn't going to get voted on.

Am I going to have to come up with some Generic Scum VT-49 Decimator Pilots and Generic Rebel TIE fighter pilots as well?

By the way, what time zone is your midnight submission deadline?

....

I decided it would be better to subdivide the ships and unique pilots to allow ships to succeed or fail based on their stats and base cost, and unique pilots to succeed or fail based on their abilities. Otherwise we'd have to vote up or down on packages of cards, and people might have been confliucted about voting up or down a card pack based on components of it. For example if there was a great ship pack submitted, with a massively OP unique pilot, it would get downvoted for the OP pilot and fail. This way the good ships get through on their own merits (stats and cost), and unique pilots pass or fail on their merits (ability and cost).

In the case of my YG-4210 entry, it's rather the other way around.

I created generics that were unmodified, but the unique pilots have modified ships,

as per the history of the ship.

YG-4210

PS7 - EPT, Cannon, Turret, System, Crew, Droid, Illicit.

PS6 - EPT, Cannon, System, Crew, Droid, Illicit.

PS5 - EPT, System, Crew, Droid, Illicit.

PS4 - System, Crew, Droid, Illicit.

PS3 - System, Crew, Droid, Illicit.

PS2 - System, Crew, Droid, Illicit.

PS1 - System, Crew, Droid, Illicit.

The logic still applies the same way it would for pilot abilities, though. The fact that the unique ships also have different upgrade bars makes it awkward to package them as one entry. Generics only on the first round.

When are people going to get to vote on Named Unique Pilots if you're only taking Generics in your Ship Entries document?

I mean I don't see the Scum YT-1300 or VT-49 Decimator, or the Rebel TIE fighter.

Just the three Generic YG-4210s.

We’ll be doing ships first, then upgrades and unique pilot cards after we know which 4 ships we’ll be creating.

If I read this right there isn't any point in submitting unique pilots until it is known which 4 are the final generic sets. I don't understand why you submitted a Unique X-wing Pilot if it isn't going to get voted on.

Am I going to have to come up with some Generic Scum VT-49 Decimator Pilots and Generic Rebel TIE fighter pilots as well?

By the way, what time zone is your midnight submission deadline?

....

I decided it would be better to subdivide the ships and unique pilots to allow ships to succeed or fail based on their stats and base cost, and unique pilots to succeed or fail based on their abilities. Otherwise we'd have to vote up or down on packages of cards, and people might have been confliucted about voting up or down a card pack based on components of it. For example if there was a great ship pack submitted, with a massively OP unique pilot, it would get downvoted for the OP pilot and fail. This way the good ships get through on their own merits (stats and cost), and unique pilots pass or fail on their merits (ability and cost).

In the case of my YG-4210 entry, it's rather the other way around.

I created generics that were unmodified, but the unique pilots have modified ships,

as per the history of the ship.

YG-4210

PS7 - EPT, Cannon, Turret, System, Crew, Droid, Illicit.

PS6 - EPT, Cannon, System, Crew, Droid, Illicit.

PS5 - EPT, System, Crew, Droid, Illicit.

PS4 - System, Crew, Droid, Illicit.

PS3 - System, Crew, Droid, Illicit.

PS2 - System, Crew, Droid, Illicit.

PS1 - System, Crew, Droid, Illicit.

The logic still applies the same way it would for pilot abilities, though. The fact that the unique ships also have different upgrade bars makes it awkward to package them as one entry. Generics only on the first round.

I actually agree here. If you vote for something simply based on the named pilots gaining extra stuff, you run into situations like the ORS, where having different stats makes it...rather less worth taking. Personally I don't want a ship where only the named pilots are worth taking and the generics are only there to get the ship voted in. And having different upgrades availalbe (bsides ept) on named pilots vs generics seems really weird. If you're going to do something like that I'd rather see it done with a title(s) like the Virago or the Punishing One.

When are people going to get to vote on Named Unique Pilots if you're only taking Generics in your Ship Entries document?

I mean I don't see the Scum YT-1300 or VT-49 Decimator, or the Rebel TIE fighter.

Just the three Generic YG-4210s.

We’ll be doing ships first, then upgrades and unique pilot cards after we know which 4 ships we’ll be creating.

If I read this right there isn't any point in submitting unique pilots until it is known which 4 are the final generic sets. I don't understand why you submitted a Unique X-wing Pilot if it isn't going to get voted on.

Am I going to have to come up with some Generic Scum VT-49 Decimator Pilots and Generic Rebel TIE fighter pilots as well?

By the way, what time zone is your midnight submission deadline?

....

I decided it would be better to subdivide the ships and unique pilots to allow ships to succeed or fail based on their stats and base cost, and unique pilots to succeed or fail based on their abilities. Otherwise we'd have to vote up or down on packages of cards, and people might have been confliucted about voting up or down a card pack based on components of it. For example if there was a great ship pack submitted, with a massively OP unique pilot, it would get downvoted for the OP pilot and fail. This way the good ships get through on their own merits (stats and cost), and unique pilots pass or fail on their merits (ability and cost).

In the case of my YG-4210 entry, it's rather the other way around.

I created generics that were unmodified, but the unique pilots have modified ships,

as per the history of the ship.

YG-4210

PS7 - EPT, Cannon, Turret, System, Crew, Droid, Illicit.

PS6 - EPT, Cannon, System, Crew, Droid, Illicit.

PS5 - EPT, System, Crew, Droid, Illicit.

PS4 - System, Crew, Droid, Illicit.

PS3 - System, Crew, Droid, Illicit.

PS2 - System, Crew, Droid, Illicit.

PS1 - System, Crew, Droid, Illicit.

The logic still applies the same way it would for pilot abilities, though. The fact that the unique ships also have different upgrade bars makes it awkward to package them as one entry. Generics only on the first round.

I actually agree here. If you vote for something simply based on the named pilots gaining extra stuff, you run into situations like the ORS, where having different stats makes it...rather less worth taking. Personally I don't want a ship where only the named pilots are worth taking and the generics are only there to get the ship voted in. And having different upgrades availalbe (bsides ept) on named pilots vs generics seems really weird. If you're going to do something like that I'd rather see it done with a title(s) like the Virago or the Punishing One.

There's nothing wrong with the Outer Rim Smuggler, it reflects a non-refit YT-1300.

If FFG agreed with you they had 6 waves to correct the fault.

Instead the release the YT-1300 the same way, and I expect the generic PS3*

to have the same stat line as the Outer Rim Smuggler, with upgrades like

Smuggler Compartments adding illicit upgrades and maybe, since it clearly

says modification twice on the card, add an extra or lower the cost of modifications.

I don't agree that your logic is more correct than FFG's.

*let's not pretend the Falcon is the only YT-1300 in the galaxy.

I absolutely agree on one point. FFG has had 6 waves to fix it. And they did. Theyve never released another ship where the generics had a different statline or upgrade bar (other than epts) than the named pilots. The ORS was a wave 2 mistake when they game was young, and they decided they didnt want to do it afterwards. The reason they havent changed the actual ors pilot is because they dont errata cards unless theres extreme circumstances.

Instead, if they want different stats or upgrades, they use titles. Like the Virago, so either of the named pilots can have upgrade slots that the generics dont (exactly like youre wanting on your ships), or the Punishing one to reflect a ship thats had extra/better weapons installed. They didnt make the named jumpmasters 3 attack a d make the scout 2 attack and a lot cheaper. Or the mist hunter that gives a g1a an extra action and upgrade to reflect modifications.

I guarantee you the ps3 yt1300 is going to have the same stats as the normal falcon and they wont change it up again like the ors

The ORS was a choice made by the previous developer of the game who when he left, they started "fixing" ships. Now, ORS is so low on the radar of FFG's wants/needs of things to fix that I doubt they ever will "fix" it. However, I highly doubt they will mess up another perfectly good YT generic by given it lesser stats.

Case and point, the jumpmaster as Vander stated.

When are people going to get to vote on Named Unique Pilots if you're only taking Generics in your Ship Entries document?

I mean I don't see the Scum YT-1300 or VT-49 Decimator, or the Rebel TIE fighter.

Just the three Generic YG-4210s.

We’ll be doing ships first, then upgrades and unique pilot cards after we know which 4 ships we’ll be creating.

If I read this right there isn't any point in submitting unique pilots until it is known which 4 are the final generic sets. I don't understand why you submitted a Unique X-wing Pilot if it isn't going to get voted on.

Am I going to have to come up with some Generic Scum VT-49 Decimator Pilots and Generic Rebel TIE fighter pilots as well?

By the way, what time zone is your midnight submission deadline?

....

I decided it would be better to subdivide the ships and unique pilots to allow ships to succeed or fail based on their stats and base cost, and unique pilots to succeed or fail based on their abilities. Otherwise we'd have to vote up or down on packages of cards, and people might have been confliucted about voting up or down a card pack based on components of it. For example if there was a great ship pack submitted, with a massively OP unique pilot, it would get downvoted for the OP pilot and fail. This way the good ships get through on their own merits (stats and cost), and unique pilots pass or fail on their merits (ability and cost).

In the case of my YG-4210 entry, it's rather the other way around.

I created generics that were unmodified, but the unique pilots have modified ships,

as per the history of the ship.

YG-4210

PS7 - EPT, Cannon, Turret, System, Crew, Droid, Illicit.

PS6 - EPT, Cannon, System, Crew, Droid, Illicit.

PS5 - EPT, System, Crew, Droid, Illicit.

PS4 - System, Crew, Droid, Illicit.

PS3 - System, Crew, Droid, Illicit.

PS2 - System, Crew, Droid, Illicit.

PS1 - System, Crew, Droid, Illicit.

The logic still applies the same way it would for pilot abilities, though. The fact that the unique ships also have different upgrade bars makes it awkward to package them as one entry. Generics only on the first round.

Okay, what's with voting on •Annikan Skywalker in the first round then?

I absolutely agree on one point. FFG has had 6 waves to fix it. And they did. Theyve never released another ship where the generics had a different statline or upgrade bar (other than epts) than the named pilots. The ORS was a wave 2 mistake when they game was young, and they decided they didnt want to do it afterwards. The reason they havent changed the actual ors pilot is because they dont errata cards unless theres extreme circumstances.

Instead, if they want different stats or upgrades, they use titles. Like the Virago, so either of the named pilots can have upgrade slots that the generics dont (exactly like youre wanting on your ships), or the Punishing one to reflect a ship thats had extra/better weapons installed. They didnt make the named jumpmasters 3 attack a d make the scout 2 attack and a lot cheaper. Or the mist hunter that gives a g1a an extra action and upgrade to reflect modifications.

I guarantee you the ps3 yt1300 is going to have the same stats as the normal falcon and they wont change it up again like the ors

You can't guarantee that, you're only guessing. They didn't do it again because there isn't another ship as modified as the YT-1300. If they can't fit all the changes that need to be made in the space of a title, then they'll change the stat line when they have to. That they haven't yet done it again isn't proof that they won't do it again. To me it doesn't make sense for the named pilot to be on the wrong ship, like Dengar has a bunch of Jumpmaster 5000's around and he can take the one with the better weapons when he feels like it; It's the Punishing One or it isn't. That's not much different to me than making Dengar a pilot card for every scum ship there is. The ORS makes sense to me, and the other way any G-1A starfighter pilot can fly the Mist Hunter, and any Jumpmaster 5000 pilot can fly the Punishing One, which is not accurate or thematic.

I think the more relevant reason why these two methods exist is because FFG is stingy with cards in the expansions. There shouldn't have been only one title in the YT-1300 expansion if there existed/exist other pilots with other ships. I would consider the ORS with crews Han Solo & Chewbacca to be a very early Millennium Falcon, but there were many other pilots that could have gotten their own titles, Second Chance, Gone to Pieces, Stellar Envoy, to name a few. I'm just thinking outloud at this point, but it seems to me that they didn't have to include a generic YT-1300, it was done for game mechanics and a nod to all the other YT-1300s in the galaxy, the ones that are not like the Falcon which all the named pilots in the expansion fly. You assumption that the generic resistance pilot PS3 is going to fly something exactly this same as the Millennium Falcon could be right, but I don't agree that it should be that way.

Before anyone says you can't have all the YT-1300 in the galaxy in one expansion, Blackjack, Corellia Star, Star of the Tion, Prodigal, were all Rebel YT-1300s, and just a few I found doing a quick scan.

The current Errata is 17 pages long and includes 128 cards in it, so if the ORS actually needed any fixing making 129 cards would have been very very easy for them to do.

I didn't create this card to make a particular point,

just to sublimate some frustration with the stat/title incongruities.

Although a "Prodigal" title would be superfluous.

I absolutely agree on one point. FFG has had 6 waves to fix it. And they did. Theyve never released another ship where the generics had a different statline or upgrade bar (other than epts) than the named pilots. The ORS was a wave 2 mistake when they game was young, and they decided they didnt want to do it afterwards.

The ORS wasn't the mistake. Han, Chewie and Lando were.

The ORS's stats are the correct stats for a YT-1300. The increased stats of Han, Chewie and Lando are the stats of the highly modified Falcon, and as such, should have been built into the Millennium Falcon title, not into their pilot cards.

I absolutely agree on one point. FFG has had 6 waves to fix it. And they did. Theyve never released another ship where the generics had a different statline or upgrade bar (other than epts) than the named pilots. The ORS was a wave 2 mistake when they game was young, and they decided they didnt want to do it afterwards. The reason they havent changed the actual ors pilot is because they dont errata cards unless theres extreme circumstances.

Instead, if they want different stats or upgrades, they use titles. Like the Virago, so either of the named pilots can have upgrade slots that the generics dont (exactly like youre wanting on your ships), or the Punishing one to reflect a ship thats had extra/better weapons installed. They didnt make the named jumpmasters 3 attack a d make the scout 2 attack and a lot cheaper. Or the mist hunter that gives a g1a an extra action and upgrade to reflect modifications.

I guarantee you the ps3 yt1300 is going to have the same stats as the normal falcon and they wont change it up again like the ors

You can't guarantee that, you're only guessing. They didn't do it again because there isn't another ship as modified as the YT-1300. If they can't fit all the changes that need to be made in the space of a title, then they'll change the stat line when they have to. That they haven't yet done it again isn't proof that they won't do it again. To me it doesn't make sense for the named pilot to be on the wrong ship, like Dengar has a bunch of Jumpmaster 5000's around and he can take the one with the better weapons when he feels like it; It's the Punishing One or it isn't. That's not much different to me than making Dengar a pilot card for every scum ship there is. The ORS makes sense to me, and the other way any G-1A starfighter pilot can fly the Mist Hunter, and any Jumpmaster 5000 pilot can fly the Punishing One, which is not accurate or thematic.

I think the more relevant reason why these two methods exist is because FFG is stingy with cards in the expansions. There shouldn't have been only one title in the YT-1300 expansion if there existed/exist other pilots with other ships. I would consider the ORS with crews Han Solo & Chewbacca to be a very early Millennium Falcon, but there were many other pilots that could have gotten their own titles, Second Chance, Gone to Pieces, Stellar Envoy, to name a few. I'm just thinking outloud at this point, but it seems to me that they didn't have to include a generic YT-1300, it was done for game mechanics and a nod to all the other YT-1300s in the galaxy, the ones that are not like the Falcon which all the named pilots in the expansion fly. You assumption that the generic resistance pilot PS3 is going to fly something exactly this same as the Millennium Falcon could be right, but I don't agree that it should be that way.

Before anyone says you can't have all the YT-1300 in the galaxy in one expansion, Blackjack, Corellia Star, Star of the Tion, Prodigal, were all Rebel YT-1300s, and just a few I found doing a quick scan.

The current Errata is 17 pages long and includes 128 cards in it, so if the ORS actually needed any fixing making 129 cards would have been very very easy for them to do.

I didn't create this card to make a particular point,

just to sublimate some frustration with the stat/title incongruities.

Although a "Prodigal" title would be superfluous.

I would like to see titles for all those unique YT-1300s... even if not official (since FFG missed the opportunity TWICE), at least custom.

Heck, if I cared for the YT-1300 a little bit, I would do these titles myself.

I absolutely agree on one point. FFG has had 6 waves to fix it. And they did. Theyve never released another ship where the generics had a different statline or upgrade bar (other than epts) than the named pilots. The ORS was a wave 2 mistake when they game was young, and they decided they didnt want to do it afterwards.

The ORS wasn't the mistake. Han, Chewie and Lando were.

The ORS's stats are the correct stats for a YT-1300. The increased stats of Han, Chewie and Lando are the stats of the highly modified Falcon, and as such, should have been built into the Millennium Falcon title, not into their pilot cards.

That would be much more accurate, and not hard to do at all.

You can't guarantee that, you're only guessing. They didn't do it again because there isn't another ship as modified as the YT-1300.

That's not even close to true. There's plenty of heavily modified ships in x-wing. The Outrider, the Punishing one, the Mist Hunter, the Hound's Tooth, etc were all heavily modified versions of the ships they started off as. Most started off as freighters (same as the falcon) and would have been lightly armed and armored (if armed at all). If they were going to do any more generics like they did for the falcon, we'd have already seen some.

The current Errata is 17 pages long and includes 128 cards in it, so if the ORS actually needed any fixing making 129 cards would have been very very easy for them to do.

The current "FAQ", 1 page of which is erratas. The biggest change of which is making tactician limited. The rest are basically limited to clarifications of card text, or a couple changes from making something a red maneuver to a white that gives stress after (because taking stress didn't used to be part of executing the maneuver). They've never changed the physical stats, actions, upgrade bar or cost of an existing pilot card, or the cost of an upgrade card. And only a single pilot has an errata, and that's to clarify when Wampa triggers. Any fixes/changes they've wanted to make to existing ships have happend in the form of new upgrades so you don't have to have a giant list of erratas and remember which cards are right and which aren't, you can just look at the cards in front of you and know what you have/what they do.

I absolutely agree on one point. FFG has had 6 waves to fix it. And they did. Theyve never released another ship where the generics had a different statline or upgrade bar (other than epts) than the named pilots. The ORS was a wave 2 mistake when they game was young, and they decided they didnt want to do it afterwards.

The ORS wasn't the mistake. Han, Chewie and Lando were.

The ORS's stats are the correct stats for a YT-1300. The increased stats of Han, Chewie and Lando are the stats of the highly modified Falcon, and as such, should have been built into the Millennium Falcon title, not into their pilot cards.

This is basically what I'm saying. If they were to remake the original falcon expansion now, they owuldn't have mdae the ORS have different stats from the named pilots. They'd have made the base stats on all the pilots, and the MF title would have reflected any differences they wanted to have (like the +1 attack on the punishing one title).

This is basically what I'm saying. If they were to remake the original falcon expansion now, they owuldn't have mdae the ORS have different stats from the named pilots. They'd have made the base stats on all the pilots, and the MF title would have reflected any differences they wanted to have (like the +1 attack on the punishing one title).

Ah, I thought you meant everything, even the generic pilot, would have had the Han/Chewie/Lando version of the stats.

You can't guarantee that, you're only guessing. They didn't do it again because there isn't another ship as modified as the YT-1300.

That's not even close to true. There's plenty of heavily modified ships in x-wing. The Outrider, the Punishing one, the Mist Hunter, the Hound's Tooth, etc were all heavily modified versions of the ships they started off as. Most started off as freighters (same as the falcon) and would have been lightly armed and armored (if armed at all). If they were going to do any more generics like they did for the falcon, we'd have already seen some.

It's easy to assume that about all the ships you want to assume that about.

But this is what it says on the ORS card, and I don't recall seeing a similar quote for the others:

"Known for its durability and modular design,

the YT-1300 is one of the most popular,

widely used freighters in the galaxy."

I absolutely agree on one point. FFG has had 6 waves to fix it. And they did. Theyve never released another ship where the generics had a different statline or upgrade bar (other than epts) than the named pilots. The ORS was a wave 2 mistake when they game was young, and they decided they didnt want to do it afterwards.

The ORS wasn't the mistake. Han, Chewie and Lando were.

The ORS's stats are the correct stats for a YT-1300. The increased stats of Han, Chewie and Lando are the stats of the highly modified Falcon, and as such, should have been built into the Millennium Falcon title, not into their pilot cards.

This is basically what I'm saying. If they were to remake the original falcon expansion now, they owuldn't have mdae the ORS have different stats from the named pilots. They'd have made the base stats on all the pilots, and the MF title would have reflected any differences they wanted to have (like the +1 attack on the punishing one title).

The ORS is one card, the Punishing One is one card, I don't see that card wise you have a majority supporting your theory: They way FFG has done it, those two ships are the only ones I've seen to have had changes to primary stat values. The Mist Hunter title and Millennium Falcon title only change the action bar.

If you agree "The ORS's stats are the correct stats for a YT-1300"

then you are saying FFG made the same mistake twice.

^ that's exactly how the Falcon title SHOULD have been. Except I would have used modifiers like other upgrade cards do, rather than absolute values.

There should be other YT-1300 titles for OTHER unique ships with OTHER individual stat bonuses.

^ that's exactly how the Falcon title SHOULD have been. Except I would have used modifiers like other upgrade cards do, rather than absolute values.

There should be other YT-1300 titles for OTHER unique ships with OTHER individual stat bonuses.

Thought I'd create an account to chime in on this one. (Also the second Dunelizard creator. Heya.)

I agree that FFG made a mistake with giving the generic YT1300 pilot reduced stats, but while I like the idea of titles like this, I want to consider how absurdly expensive adding in 1 attack dice, 2 hull, and 1 shield is, as well as an evade action. The missile addition shouldn't cost additional, as you have to make additional investment in it.

That's, stat wise, a very expensive upgrade, considering The Punishing One is a twelve pointer. And while you can make the argument that the title is really only for Dengar (Maybe Tel. Eh.) to get the most out of his ability, the same can be said of Han, Chewie, and Lando. The proper fix is what they're doing, which is most likely giving us a generic with boosted stats and a reasonable cost.

We'll see.

I've been starting to dabble with some ideas that might benefit the T-65 a little. No overt fixes, just some fun and thematic cards to help it out a little.

First up, there's a pilot card that we're conspicuously missing.

And, to go with it, a new title that will encourage some classic Rebel teamwork.

Unfortunately, Tarn Mison gets booted out of Rogue Squadron with this title. Also Biggs is in, for some reason. But it's impossible to make it match perfectly.

One place that Rebels are really suffering at the moment is the quality of their Astromechs. While Integrated Astromech is stellar, there's a huge lack of efficient Astromechs to use with it. Essentially you have R2 Astromech, a handful of good unique Astromechs, or a sea of complete garbage. If you compare this to the efficiency of Salvaged Astromechs, Rebels have a reason to be jealous. Here's a couple of ideas built around teamwork and efficiency that might help out some of the underloved Rebel ships.

While I was looking for art to use on these cards, I found this great piece that encouraged me to put a card together I'd been thinking about for a long while.

It's easy to assume that about all the ships you want to assume that about.

But this is what it says on the ORS card, and I don't recall seeing a similar quote for the others:

"Known for its durability and modular design,

the YT-1300 is one of the most popular,

widely used freighters in the galaxy."

...what does that flavor text have to do with anything? So it's the most popular freighter. You think han is the only person who can modify a yt-1300? You posted a bunch of other named ones yourself earlier (never mind that the 3 you actually posted were all aliases of the Falcon, there's plenty more in the link). You think every single one of those was stock? Given that the generic is Outer Rim Smuggler it's probably a safe assumption that there'd be some modifications on the ship.

And either way the popularity of the ship isn't what's in question, it's how modified the ship is (wrt to the generic vs named or title, etc). You claimed earlier none of the other ships were as modified as the falcon. I didn't have to make any assumptions. According to wookiepedia:

The Outrider was a heavily modified YT-2400 light freighter used by the brash smuggler Dash Rendar.

or from the much more applicable flavor text of the contracted scout:

Built for long-distance reconnaissance and plotting new hyperspace routes, the lightly armed JumpMaster 5000 was often extensively retrofitted with custom upgrades.

Dengar modified the Punishing One to use a cutting-edge engine bay and armed the ship with a mini-ion cannon and proton torpedo launcher. He also modified a quad-blaster cannon to operate using an R2-series astromech droid built into the ship as a gunner, leaving him free to concentrate on flying. The increased sublight speed and weapons system gave Punishing One the punch it needed to handle any threats in realspace rather than relying on its slow Class 3 hyperdrive.

The Hound's Tooth was a modified YV-666 light freighter manufactured by the Corellian Engineering Corporation.

The Mist Hunter was a modified Byblos Drive Yards G-1A starfighter that was owned by Zuckuss, a Gand bounty hunter.

Hell, even the Ghost isn't a stock ship:

The Ghost was a modified VCX-100 light freighter originally made by the Corellian Engineering Corporation.

...over eighty-seven illegal upgrades...

The ORS is one card, the Punishing One is one card, I don't see that card wise you have a majority supporting your theory: They way FFG has done it, those two ships are the only ones I've seen to have had changes to primary stat values. The Mist Hunter title and Millennium Falcon title only change the action bar.

We have the Punishing One to change the stats of a ship. We have the Outrider which arguably also changes the stats (losing primary for a 360 cannon changes the attack value of the ship, and possibly the range). We have the virago, slave 1, andrasta, and the tie/x1 (though that one was released later of course) to add upgrades to a ship (which is actually what started this whole thing, having differnet upgrades on the named pilots vs the generics. Which is exactly what the virago does). We have the mist hunter and MF as you said to change the action bar.

It's clear how the currentn developers of the game think ships should be modified between named and generic pilots (or stock vs modified versions of ships). The guy who developed the original Falcon and ORS isn't still developing ships. IF frank and/or alex quit in the future and someone else takes over, then we MIGHT see things done differnetly, but until then, I fully expect them to continue exaclty as they have.

If you agree "The ORS's stats are the correct stats for a YT-1300"

then you are saying FFG made the same mistake twice.

I'm saying IF they were to make the falcon as a new ship now (and there weren't an existing one), they'd either have given the ORS the same stats as the other pilots OR they would have given all the pilots the lower stats and the title would have changed the statline for the named pilots if desired (which actually makes more sense thematically, since chewie and han can't actually be flying 2 different fully modified millenium falcons at the same time).

Since there already IS an existing falcon, they aren't making the same mistake. They're keeping the named pilots where they are, and like I already said, I fully expect the new generic to have the same stats as the other pilots.

I'm serious about this "Rebels need more good Astromechs" thing.

Obvious synergy with PtL Corran is deliberate. Enough to be taken over R2-D2? I'm not sure.