I was thinking about something that would have that real as seen in the movie! flavour to it. Kind of reverse Rage with less stress but "Large Only" restriction. It's possibly too powerfull (undercosted?), not coming with this huge trade-off of doublestressing, but I think taking up an EPT slot for defensive-only action on a (costly) large ship is enough of a punishment. I've been thinking of limiting it to a ship with evade icon too, but that would mean literally one ship with one particular title (Ghosts have no EPT, what a bummer). Might be a little crazy when paired with Countermeasures, but I like how it discourages using C3PO at the same time.

What do you guys think? Maybe make it single-use instead of action requirement? Feedback please!

Absolutely not.

A Falcon with the evade title, C-3PO, R2-DCrew, and this EPT is canceling 4 damage a turn. That's ridiculous, I don't care if it doesn't have Predator or that it has to use EI instead of engine upgrade. We don't need falcons with Soontir levels of defense, even if it can only happen every other turn, nope. It's already bad enough.

How are you getting that? Taking C-3PO with this card would make the card worse, you are getting a stress out of the deal and greatly diminishing the effectiveness of C-3PO. Yes, you can use EI to pop this one off but that would result in double stress...which is extra bad for the falcon... and sacrificing the EU really is a huge deal. Sure, you would have double evade tokens but you would be dead in the water for a turn allowing focus fire on yourself.

I get your point though, the Millennium Falcon probably doesn't really need the help.

I was thinking about something that would have that real as seen in the movie! flavour to it. Kind of reverse Rage with less stress but "Large Only" restriction. It's possibly too powerfull (undercosted?), not coming with this huge trade-off of doublestressing, but I think taking up an EPT slot for defensive-only action on a (costly) large ship is enough of a punishment. I've been thinking of limiting it to a ship with evade icon too, but that would mean literally one ship with one particular title (Ghosts have no EPT, what a bummer). Might be a little crazy when paired with Countermeasures, but I like how it discourages using C3PO at the same time.

What do you guys think? Maybe make it single-use instead of action requirement? Feedback please!

Absolutely not.

A Falcon with the evade title, C-3PO, R2-DCrew, and this EPT is canceling 4 damage a turn. That's ridiculous, I don't care if it doesn't have Predator or that it has to use EI instead of engine upgrade. We don't need falcons with Soontir levels of defense, even if it can only happen every other turn, nope. It's already bad enough.

How are you getting that? Taking C-3PO with this card would make the card worse, you are getting a stress out of the deal and greatly diminishing the effectiveness of C-3PO. Yes, you can use EI to pop this one off but that would result in double stress...which is extra bad for the falcon... and sacrificing the EU really is a huge deal. Sure, you would have double evade tokens but you would be dead in the water for a turn allowing focus fire on yourself.

I get your point though, the Millennium Falcon probably doesn't really need the help.

So you evade action, EI for another evade token and another agility. That's 2 damage canceled.

C-3PO guesses zero. You get at least one evade result. That's 3 damage canceled.

R2-DCrew regens a shield with probably no downsides. Worst case you flip up a direct hit and you break even, but probably not. Definitely not if you have no face down damage cards to begin with. That's the 4th damage canceled, automatically.

And I it's a one use, then it's just a power creeped version of Countermeasures. Large base ships do not need more help. There are so many lists based around large based ships doing well right now, they do not need a buff. I'm currently flying Mindlink Brobots, I'm a-ok with losing 25 MoV for losing half a Brobot, it's not a big deal. The fact that less people fly fat turrets than they used to is a good thing.

I'm pre-compiling the entries now. Any changes you make between now and the deadline will be reflected in the final voting form, but if you have submitted a ship, check this document to check that it is there, and it is the correct version. I'll try to make the voting forms as standardized as possible but there are a few different image formats, etc. This is not what the voting doc will look like, but if any picture or information is wrong, let me know.

I'm pre-compiling the entries now. Any changes you make between now and the deadline will be reflected in the final voting form, but if you have submitted a ship, check this document to check that it is there, and it is the correct version. I'll try to make the voting forms as standardized as possible but there are a few different image formats, etc. This is not what the voting doc will look like, but if any picture or information is wrong, let me know.

Your missing my TIE predator.

I'm pre-compiling the entries now. Any changes you make between now and the deadline will be reflected in the final voting form, but if you have submitted a ship, check this document to check that it is there, and it is the correct version. I'll try to make the voting forms as standardized as possible but there are a few different image formats, etc. This is not what the voting doc will look like, but if any picture or information is wrong, let me know.

Your missing my TIE predator.

Good thing i checked; what page is it on?

Just realised my "A Few Maneuvers" is totally broken in the hands of Manaroo who gets 3 agility, generates Evade for anyone to use and clears stress effortlessly next turn with Unhinged.

So I know I'm a little late on this, but Babaganoosh, I think it would be a good option to have a committee select the cards in the very end process. Have a couple rounds of voting from the community, but when it gets to the final cut, have a committee select the cards.

The reason I think this is what needs to happen is I would be really worried about some submissions receiving more positive votes due to the creators reaching out to others to vote for their submissions. While I think it is fine to drum up some interest across various social platforms and ask others to vote, I don't want it to be a popularity contest.

Shuttle Tydirium podcast crew of 4 would be good.

Odd number is best for a panel however

So I know I'm a little late on this, but Babaganoosh, I think it would be a good option to have a committee select the cards in the very end process. Have a couple rounds of voting from the community, but when it gets to the final cut, have a committee select the cards.

The reason I think this is what needs to happen is I would be really worried about some submissions receiving more positive votes due to the creators reaching out to others to vote for their submissions. While I think it is fine to drum up some interest across various social platforms and ask others to vote, I don't want it to be a popularity contest.

Hmm, well I was originally thinking that I would put the final cards to a up/down vote from a panel of x-wing luminaries. I could still reach out and see if some of the other podcasts or top players are interested.

So I know I'm a little late on this, but Babaganoosh, I think it would be a good option to have a committee select the cards in the very end process. Have a couple rounds of voting from the community, but when it gets to the final cut, have a committee select the cards.

The reason I think this is what needs to happen is I would be really worried about some submissions receiving more positive votes due to the creators reaching out to others to vote for their submissions. While I think it is fine to drum up some interest across various social platforms and ask others to vote, I don't want it to be a popularity contest.

Hmm, well I was originally thinking that I would put the final cards to a up/down vote from a panel of x-wing luminaries. I could still reach out and see if some of the other podcasts or top players are interested.

I think that would be fantastic. Have a number of criteria, such as balance, theme, faction identity, etc., so they have a scoring base as well. These are just examples. There are a lot of things that could go in to the scoring.

Final Submission

Mando fang fighter from rebels. Dropped barrel roll to get it the TL action for it's torpedo slot, which basically turns it into a scum a-wing. made it a ponit cheaper than the green squadron since it doesn't have any EPTs to the greens 2, though it gains an illicit.

I'm pre-compiling the entries now. Any changes you make between now and the deadline will be reflected in the final voting form, but if you have submitted a ship, check this document to check that it is there, and it is the correct version. I'll try to make the voting forms as standardized as possible but there are a few different image formats, etc. This is not what the voting doc will look like, but if any picture or information is wrong, let me know.

I finalized my fang fighter (posted a new version above) and my stealthX (way back in the thread, betwen pages 5-10 I think?)

So I know I'm a little late on this, but Babaganoosh, I think it would be a good option to have a committee select the cards in the very end process. Have a couple rounds of voting from the community, but when it gets to the final cut, have a committee select the cards.

The reason I think this is what needs to happen is I would be really worried about some submissions receiving more positive votes due to the creators reaching out to others to vote for their submissions. While I think it is fine to drum up some interest across various social platforms and ask others to vote, I don't want it to be a popularity contest.

Hmm, well I was originally thinking that I would put the final cards to a up/down vote from a panel of x-wing luminaries. I could still reach out and see if some of the other podcasts or top players are interested.

I think that would be fantastic. Have a number of criteria, such as balance, theme, faction identity, etc., so they have a scoring base as well. These are just examples. There are a lot of things that could go in to the scoring.

I know he talked about doing about a waves worth of ships. So maybe for the final picks do 1 rebel, 1 imperial, 1 scum? have community vote to get a couple finalists for each faction, then do whatever to pickt he final ships?

Heh, my ARC and Eta-2 weren't actually submissions, but sure, throw 'em in.

So I know I'm a little late on this, but Babaganoosh, I think it would be a good option to have a committee select the cards in the very end process. Have a couple rounds of voting from the community, but when it gets to the final cut, have a committee select the cards.

The reason I think this is what needs to happen is I would be really worried about some submissions receiving more positive votes due to the creators reaching out to others to vote for their submissions. While I think it is fine to drum up some interest across various social platforms and ask others to vote, I don't want it to be a popularity contest.

Hmm, well I was originally thinking that I would put the final cards to a up/down vote from a panel of x-wing luminaries. I could still reach out and see if some of the other podcasts or top players are interested.

I think that would be fantastic. Have a number of criteria, such as balance, theme, faction identity, etc., so they have a scoring base as well. These are just examples. There are a lot of things that could go in to the scoring.

I know he talked about doing about a waves worth of ships. So maybe for the final picks do 1 rebel, 1 imperial, 1 scum? have community vote to get a couple finalists for each faction, then do whatever to pickt he final ships?

Could make it a classic wave, 2 of each? Granted then it would be 6 ship wave, but then more then one person gets to win for each faction.

Could also make it more like the recent waves (not counting the T70/FO getting added to wave 8). 1 ship for each faction, then a bonus ship that could be any faction.

Maybe if you did a c ouple finalists for each faction, pick your 3 faction ships, then the favorite of what's left?

I think it would be best if you used some cross factional ships. You should do 1 ship Rebel/scum, 1 Empire/Scum(my Preybird would be a great choice) ;-) and one just Scum( or go crazy and select one Rebel/Empire). That way there is only 3 winners but still more options.

I think it would be best if you used some cross factional ships. You should do 1 ship Rebel/scum, 1 Empire/Scum(my Preybird would be a great choice) ;-) and one just Scum( or go crazy and select one Rebel/Empire). That way there is only 3 winners but still more options.

My chiss clawcraft is a perfect choice for rebel/imperial

That dial is absolutely insane. 19 available maneuvers, including two sloops AND two trolls, and half (9) the maneuvers are green, including hard turns.

I think it would be best if you used some cross factional ships. You should do 1 ship Rebel/scum, 1 Empire/Scum(my Preybird would be a great choice) ;-) and one just Scum( or go crazy and select one Rebel/Empire). That way there is only 3 winners but still more options.

My chiss clawcraft is a perfect choice for rebel/imperial

That's true and I love the Clawcraft! It gets my Rebel/Empire vote! So can I get your Empire/Scum vote for my Preybird? ;-)

That dial is absolutely insane. 19 available maneuvers, including two sloops AND two trolls, and half (9) the maneuvers are green, including hard turns.

That is an insane dial, but in the episode the Fangs flew circles around the Awings and the Awing has one of the best dials, if not the best, in the game. At one point, I mocked a Fang up and was considering giving it a red 2 reverse maneuver to represent it doing it in the episode. It needs a crazy dial. The lore supports that.

That is an insane dial, but in the episode the Fangs flew circles around the Awings and the Awing has one of the best dials, if not the best, in the game. At one point, I mocked a Fang up and was considering giving it a red 2 reverse maneuver to represent it doing it in the episode. It needs a crazy dial. The lore supports that.

Agreed, and if it gets voted in, it can always be modified if wanted/needed in the next round. It might be worth upping the cost another point perhaps to take the good dial into account. On the other hand, compared to other interceptors it has no 5s or 3 turns, and on an ace with PTL, you don't get any benefit from the sloops or trolls since you can't use em if you're stressed.

That's true and I love the Clawcraft! It gets my Rebel/Empire vote! So can I get your Empire/Scum vote for my Preybird? ;-)

Clawcraft is my favorite ship in star wars (I have a 3d printed one from Mel's that I painted up, haven't had the chance to take it out for a spin yet to test out my custom stuff), so I'd love to see it get voted in, and would happy accept it as both rebel and imperial (I actually have an imperial version of Jag, and maybe one of shawnkyr as well). And the preybird is the obvious choice for imperial/scum (since again, it was in the lore). I actually have both versions created myself that I never got around to submitting, and figure since you already submitted one I won't worry about it. Will probably submit pilots/upgrades if the ship itself gets voted in.

My last addition for the upgrade cards. Full Reverse a new movement option.

My last addition for the upgrade cards. Full Reverse a new movement option.

Might wanna add an "Action:" header to it. And a -2 k-turn? That's...impressive...

Cloud Car: FINAL SUBMISSION

Design Notes: Compare CC Security to a Binayre Pilot: It is cheaper by 2 points, but for that 2 points you get the added durability of 1 extra health and 2 shields on the Z. The illicit slot is about as useful as a crew slot; the cloud car has barrel roll. Also, the dial has no K-turn or Segnors making it difficult to keep enemies in arc (although somewhat mitigated by slow 1 speed maneuvers and barrel roll). For 1 point extra the cloud car can also have the target lock/missile combo making it basically a less durable, slightly less maneuverable Z for 11 pts.

The real submission is the generic pilots and dial, the upgrade cards are just extras to show the possibilities, for now of course. If it makes it to round 2 i add the Unique Pilots like Lobot.

I'm just going to leave these here to get people's repulsorlifts going: