Rey(45) PS10

Veteran Instincts(1)

Engine Upgrade(4)

Kanan Jarrus(3)

Kyle Katarn(3)

Millenium Falcon Sloop title(1)

57 points total

Poe(33) PS9

Push The Limit(3)

R2-D2(4)

Autothrusters(2)

Black One(1)

43 points total

100 points total

Assuming Poe sticks within Range 1-2 of the Falcon, he can PTL and drop stress with a white maneuver next turn if necessary, significantly freeing up his dial to drop stress, and enabling the use of Black One and getting the focus for his ability at the same time.

But Rey is where it gets special.

Say she executes a 3 bank. It's a white maneuver; so Kanan triggers, and it's a 3 bank, so the title triggers too. At the same time. Meaning, you get to choose the activation order.

Say you're stressed; So you activate Kanan first, dropping stress and gaining a focus from Kyle. Then, you activate the title to turn 180 degrees, gaining a stress.

Say you're not stressed. You activate the title, turning your ship 180 degrees, and gain a stress. Then you activate Kanan, dropping the stress from the title, and gaining a focus token from Kyle. Then you can perform your action for the turn.

You're basically paying 4 points for white 3 speed sloops(with a free focus token) in both directions.

Eat your heart out, JM5K.

no you got it all wrong

the JM5k will eat your heart

That Falcon sounds like it will be A LOT of fun to fly!

That Falcon sounds like it will be A LOT of fun to fly!

I really dont like flying big ships. I'm going to fly the CRAP out of this. That's how fun i think it's gonna be.

Why not R5-P9 on Poe, he meshes better with his ability and gives you 1 point to work with, or a bid. And you can regen even on white maneuvers with him.

Why not R5-P9 on Poe, he meshes better with his ability and gives you 1 point to work with, or a bid. And you can regen even on white maneuvers with him.

Not sure. My other suggestion is BB-8 - Black One and Push The Limit pair so **** well with that ability; a green manoeuvre gets you a free barrel roll and free boost, which is a hell of a reposition in a knife fight, strips away an opponents target lock, and you're not even stressed as a result. At a higher PS than Omega Leader.

Why not R5-P9 on Poe, he meshes better with his ability and gives you 1 point to work with, or a bid. And you can regen even on white maneuvers with him.

i'd rather spend the additional point and gain insulation against bumping/stresshogs, then have an action-dependent regen ability when i dont have to. With R2-D2, i can bump and still regen shields. That pays for itself in a game, especially with Poe at such a high pilot skill, being at risk of being blocked.

Why not R5-P9 on Poe, he meshes better with his ability and gives you 1 point to work with, or a bid. And you can regen even on white maneuvers with him.

Not sure. My other suggestion is BB-8 - Black One and Push The Limit pair so **** well with that ability; a green manoeuvre gets you a free barrel roll and free boost, which is a hell of a reposition in a knife fight, strips away an opponents target lock, and you're not even stressed as a result. At a higher PS than Omega Leader.

Regen beats that every time. Poes' 50% of the list; I absolutely HAVE TO, HAVE TO, HAVE TO keep Poe alive as long as physically possible.

Why not R5-P9 on Poe, he meshes better with his ability and gives you 1 point to work with, or a bid. And you can regen even on white maneuvers with him.

i'd rather spend the additional point and gain insulation against bumping/stresshogs, then have an action-dependent regen ability when i dont have to. With R2-D2, i can bump and still regen shields. That pays for itself in a game, especially with Poe at such a high pilot skill, being at risk of being blocked.

Why not R5-P9 on Poe, he meshes better with his ability and gives you 1 point to work with, or a bid. And you can regen even on white maneuvers with him.

Not sure. My other suggestion is BB-8 - Black One and Push The Limit pair so **** well with that ability; a green manoeuvre gets you a free barrel roll and free boost, which is a hell of a reposition in a knife fight, strips away an opponents target lock, and you're not even stressed as a result. At a higher PS than Omega Leader.

Regen beats that every time. Poes' 50% of the list; I absolutely HAVE TO, HAVE TO, HAVE TO keep Poe alive as long as physically possible.

I disagree. Regen died with the u-boats. I think BB8 black one poe will be a beast. Title may not help against uboats and deadeye, but still screws with anything that needs target locks (looking at you omega leader, darth vader, etc). BB8 makes the title way easier to trigger (you don't always want to boost, while you CAN always plan ahead of time for BB8) and makes him way arc-dodgier, which is also going to help way more than regen against uboats (and is good against all the ps8 imp aces running around now, as well as PS9s if you get to give them initiative).

Why not R5-P9 on Poe, he meshes better with his ability and gives you 1 point to work with, or a bid. And you can regen even on white maneuvers with him.

i'd rather spend the additional point and gain insulation against bumping/stresshogs, then have an action-dependent regen ability when i dont have to. With R2-D2, i can bump and still regen shields. That pays for itself in a game, especially with Poe at such a high pilot skill, being at risk of being blocked.

Why not R5-P9 on Poe, he meshes better with his ability and gives you 1 point to work with, or a bid. And you can regen even on white maneuvers with him.

Not sure. My other suggestion is BB-8 - Black One and Push The Limit pair so **** well with that ability; a green manoeuvre gets you a free barrel roll and free boost, which is a hell of a reposition in a knife fight, strips away an opponents target lock, and you're not even stressed as a result. At a higher PS than Omega Leader.

Regen beats that every time. Poes' 50% of the list; I absolutely HAVE TO, HAVE TO, HAVE TO keep Poe alive as long as physically possible.

I disagree. Regen died with the u-boats. I think BB8 black one poe will be a beast. Title may not help against uboats and deadeye, but still screws with anything that needs target locks (looking at you omega leader, darth vader, etc). BB8 makes the title way easier to trigger (you don't always want to boost, while you CAN always plan ahead of time for BB8) and makes him way arc-dodgier, which is also going to help way more than regen against uboats (and is good against all the ps8 imp aces running around now, as well as PS9s if you get to give them initiative).

There are more lists out there than 3 scouts. BB-8 Poe dies instantly to Palp Aces, which can outmaneuver even BB-8 Poe. Regen Poe is the most general option available, and PTL still allows him the option of boost to get out of a scout's arc, or get within range 1 where their torpedoes are useless. Regen Poe can survive almost indefinitely against Palp Aces, but BB-8 Poe is whittled down by them considerably faster. Against most types of lists, Regen Poe fairs much better.

Let's just say i trust in my ability to survive torpedoes and regen the damage more than BB-8 Poe dodging 3 large ship arcs, ESPECIALLY a large ship with sloops, one of which is white. Pre-game placement gives me the opportunity to break their formation and force them into favorable 1 on 2s, or 2 on 2s. Target priority will be on Rey, who can take some of that damage for a while and give Poe a better shot to make it to a survivable endgame with Regen.

Plus, this expac is coming in during a post Imp Vets world, and possibly coming just before Wave 9. Who knows what the meta will look like then.

I have tried Kyle/Kanan on the Falcon, not a fan. Gunner/Luke was missed greatly (also c3p0 is still the best defensive upgrade for this ship), trying to hit one of the plethora of defensive aces with autothrusters is an exercise in futility.

And that ship is way too expensive to joust. Also bumping hurts you more.

I think the same will hold true for Rey, she might be able to get away without Predator due to her pilot ability (even then its not something you will use every turn because the falcon is so inefficient you will have to arc dodge more often than not), but other than that she has the same strenghts/weaknesses as good old Han.

There's nothing currently spoiled in resHeroes that changes the play style of either ship at all

The most effective builds are still set on stone, just with new titles and a new pilot/+1 ps

There's nothing currently spoiled in resHeroes that changes the play style of either ship at all

The most effective builds are still set on stone, just with new titles and a new pilot/+1 ps

*laughing* What?

What?????

FOUR CARDS HAVE BEEN SPOILED THUS FAR!

FOUR!

Out of how many? Around 30 or so?

A little too early to maintain the status quo, don't you think? If Fat Han builds work so amazing in the current meta, then where are they? I havent seen a Fat Han in months.

There are more lists out there than 3 scouts. BB-8 Poe dies instantly to Palp Aces, which can outmaneuver even BB-8 Poe.

How do you figure? Poe's PS9. What Imp aces are common right now? Soontir, Omega Leader, Carnor, Inquisitor, Valen Rudor, wampa, vader, and whisper?

Of those, VI or adaptability Vader is the only higher PS, with soontir and whisper same PS, and the rest all lower PS. Which means Poe outflies most of that list, including whisper and soontir if you have initiative (and my current list has a 3 point initiative bid). PTL + BB8 does amazing things for maneuverability and arcdodging.

Regen Poe is the most general option available, and PTL still allows him the option of boost to get out of a scout's arc, or get within range 1 where their torpedoes are useless. Regen Poe can survive almost indefinitely against Palp Aces, but BB-8 Poe is whittled down by them considerably faster. Against most types of lists, Regen Poe fairs much better.

PTL on Poe means you're moving after whisper, soontir and vader, and potentially after all the other aces if you end up with initiative. Regening 1 shield per turn isn't going to help if you're not getting shots because of arc-dodgers and they're doing more than 1 damage per turn to you. There's a reason people run VI on regen poe most of the time and not PTL. He's way better against palp aces simply due to PS. And note that regen poe disappeared from the meta pretty much overnight with the release of wave 8..

Let's just say i trust in my ability to survive torpedoes and regen the damage more than BB-8 Poe dodging 3 large ship arcs, ESPECIALLY a large ship with sloops, one of which is white. Pre-game placement gives me the opportunity to break their formation and force them into favorable 1 on 2s, or 2 on 2s. Target priority will be on Rey, who can take some of that damage for a while and give Poe a better shot to make it to a survivable endgame with Regen.

Against regen poe, I'm not shooting rey first if I'm flying u-boats. I'm absolutely firing those torpedoes to try to alpha down poe before he can regen. And given that uboats are pretty much why Poe disappeared from the meta, I'm not too worried about being able to get him and alpha him down. Then it's Rey vs the uboats, and even if they're only 2 attack, that's plenty against a 1 agility ship with no defense upgrades.

Edit: Also, the black one title royally screws omega leader 1v1, and vader to a lesser extent (vader can re-TL if he's moving second, but basically loses an action every turn to keep doing it)

There's nothing currently spoiled in resHeroes that changes the play style of either ship at all

The most effective builds are still set on stone, just with new titles and a new pilot/+1 ps

*laughing* What?

What?????

FOUR CARDS HAVE BEEN SPOILED THUS FAR!

FOUR!

Out of how many? Around 30 or so?

A little too early to maintain the status quo, don't you think? If Fat Han builds work so amazing in the current meta, then where are they? I havent seen a Fat Han in months.

I did explicitly say "nothing currently spoiled"

not "nothing in Heroes of the Resistance"

though I highly doubt we'll see Fat Falcons make any kind of comeback unless Finn and Rei crews are absolutely ridiculous. Torp scouts will continue to trivially murder yt-1300s otherwise

any hope I got in that expac is coming from the illicit SLAM slot, smuggler's compartment for a ship that isn't the yt-1300, and the oodles of unknown, potentially cool t-70 stuff

After running Poe and Rey a bit today, here are my thoughts-

New Falcon title just isn't as valuable as the old. The times you want that Sloop are a lot less than you think, and players will learn when to expect it. Having a "special" maneuver outlined on one of the cards sitting next to your pilot makes players hyper aware of it as is. I swapped it out for the old title after two games.

In the same regard, the Kyle Katarn + Kanan Jarrus combo on her is a bit too niche. How often is she getting stress on her? You are doing that sloop maybe... twice a game? If even? Unless you have PTL on her (which she doesn't really need since she will likely never be looking for TLs), or something silly like Daredevil (which I actually like because it keeps things in arc), there are better combos out there.

9oe, title, PTL and BB8 is fun, but man, there were about 5 rounds where I thought, "Hmm. R5-P9 would be great right now". Gonna have to say that's still the superior option, even at PS 9 and with the title. BB-8 might be the better option in a hyper offensive build which, with the way regen is struggling against the current meta, might not be a bad idea. But overall, R5P9 is still king.

Rey's ability is phenomenal. Even at just PS 8 with Daredevil and engine, I only had one round in two games where I didn't have my target in arc. The re-rolls on defense saved me a couple hits, and it was clear to me that C3P0 on her is a great option, and I instantly dropped Kyle for him in the build. Still debating on if I want to keep Kanan as the crew opposite C3P0. Kanan helps with the stress from Daredevil, and I know I will probably eventually come to terms with dropping Daredevil which opens up two slots to explore options with. But Daredevil is just so thematic on Rey gosh dang it! With her pilot ability meaning she doesn't need much other support to get damage through, I wouldn't be surprised if she is the go to pilot now for the C3P0 and R2D2 crew build.

Will be interesting to see how they evolve over time.

I essentially said screw initiative bids and went for high ps

YT-1300: · Rey (45)

Veteran Instincts (1)

Engine Upgrade (4)

Tactician (2)

Gunner (5)

· Millennium Falcon (Segnor's Loop) (1)

T-70 X-Wing: · Poe Dameron (33)

Veteran Instincts (1)

· R2-D2 (4)

Autothrusters (2)

· Black One (1)

-- TOTAL ------- 99/100p. --