Examples of Morality Strength/Weaknesses from the Lore

By KungFuFerret, in Star Wars: Force and Destiny RPG

So, Desslok said, in Ze Moralities, zey suck schveinstookers! The frustrated penguin asked what can one do with the particular weakness of a Morality pairing. I gave a few examples I could think of off the top of my head, but I thought it might be fun to post other examples from the canon, that could be used to help inspire players to more thoroughly embrace the Morality system.

So if you can provide an example or two of the Strength and the Weakness, though they don't have to be examples from the same character. Just examples that help to encapsulate the concept presented in the book.

So, I'll repost my examples of Recklessness from that thread here, to kick things off.

Recklessness: 1. You jump out of a speeder on Coruscant, and free fall 5 bajillion stories to try and catch an escaping assassin's car so you can try and hack them to death at high speed, at the risk of your own life as you destroy the speeder you are currently perched on.

2. You leap out of a window on Coruscant, hoping to grab hold of a droid that just delivered murder bugs to the noblewoman you are protecting, now finding yourself dangling 5 bajillion stories over Coruscant traffic, being shot at by a sniper.

3. You get into a fist fight with a guy on the outside of a really frictionless dome, in the rain, while tied to him, and you do a flying kick to knock him off the side of the building...forgetting you are still tied to him, and thus dragged to your near doom.

4. You leap ahead on your own, instead of working with your Master to take on a dangerous enemy, and get your arm hacked off for the effort.

5. You decide to fly into an asteroid field to try and avoid the Imperial fleet chasing you, even though this itself is almost certain death.

Heh - I'll have to think on this away from work, when I have a book within arms reach to look over. My lunch is only so long, you know. :)

Here are some examples I thought of, not all of them are related to the behavior of Force users, though.

Bravery/Recklessness: You decide to fly into a dense asteroid field to escape the Empire.

Justice/Anger: When you finally have your nemesis at your mercy, an evil force that has wrought terrible destruction upon the innocent, you execute him instead of letting him stand trial.

Curiosity: You hear what sounds like an old friend, but when you investigate you discover an Imperial presence.

Curiosity or Mercy: You hear a droid in trouble, and move to rescue it. When you do, you find that there is more to the droid than you first believed.

Obstinance or Fear: Instead of finishing your Jedi training with your mentor, you rush off to save your friends from peril.

Hatred: You are so focused on killing your enemy that you are powerless to stop your ally from stopping you.

Arrogance: You insist that you know better than your mentor, and act willfully against his instructions.

Compassion: While being chased by hostile forces, you stop to rescue a helpless creature from certain doom.

Pride: You remain stalwart in the face of interrogation by a devious foe, so that you never crack under pressure.

Ambition: You claim the title of Jedi before your master says you have earned it (and because there are so few left to dispute your claim).

Curiosity/obsession.: The character takes an extended detour to examine knowledge or seek out the object of their desire, neglecting current duty/time concerns.

Obsession: The character is obsessed with finding a particular person; either to kill or other reasons (My character had this for the first few arcs in the campiagn; in the end, getting nowhere closer to revenge, he broke off and set up an elabourate hiest on a Hutt to call out his Nemesis, Dillenger, a bounty hunter with a large reputation as a old hand and a legendary shot)

I think 5 was a calculated risk, the falcon is just sil 4, meaning even at speed 6 that's just 3 purple and 2 red, while the star destroyer WILL rolle against far more than the chasing TIE-Fighter will roll against the same with only minor advantages from handling.

It definitely should work out if you are one of the best pilots in the galaxy.

Obstinance or Fear: You let your whole order become a bunch of warmongering generals instead of peacekeepers of the galaxy / You let them all die knowingly and willingly, because you know that this way a greater evil will be defeated and the order cleansed of its corruption.

I think 5 was a calculated risk, the falcon is just sil 4, meaning even at speed 6 that's just 3 purple and 2 red, while the star destroyer WILL rolle against far more than the chasing TIE-Fighter will roll against the same with only minor advantages from handling.

It definitely should work out if you are one of the best pilots in the galaxy.

Are you kidding?! The odds of successfully navigating an asteroid field are approximately 3720:1!

I think 5 was a calculated risk, the falcon is just sil 4, meaning even at speed 6 that's just 3 purple and 2 red, while the star destroyer WILL rolle against far more than the chasing TIE-Fighter will roll against the same with only minor advantages from handling.

It definitely should work out if you are one of the best pilots in the galaxy.

Are you kidding?! The odds of successfully navigating an asteroid field are approximately 3720:1!

Never tell me the odds!

Though mathematical speaking to odds are quite good, it is not like Han is not a 3720 times better pilot than C3PO :P

Edited by SEApocalypse

I think 5 was a calculated risk, the falcon is just sil 4, meaning even at speed 6 that's just 3 purple and 2 red, while the star destroyer WILL rolle against far more than the chasing TIE-Fighter will roll against the same with only minor advantages from handling.

It definitely should work out if you are one of the best pilots in the galaxy.

Are you kidding?! The odds of successfully navigating an asteroid field are approximately 3720:1!

Never tell me the odds!

Though mathematical speaking to odds are quite good, it not like Han is not a 3720 times better pilot than C3PO :P

Yes but there are way more than 3720 asteroids in a field, and only one of them has to get lucky to turn him into space paste :P

Though it is funny, when I actually typed out those odds, I though "That's actually not that bad. I mean, these are literally astronomical odds, but they're pretty low" :D Though in reality, the distance between asteroids is so wide, you can't even see the next nearest rock if you were in the middle of the belt. But still, couldn't resist. And I would stay say it was reckless, because everyone in the ship with him was like "ARE YOU CRAZY?!?" They clearly thought it wasn't a "calculated risk". :D

Edited by KungFuFerret

As long as we're nitpicking the examples...

3. You get into a fist fight with a guy on the outside of a really frictionless dome, in the rain, while tied to him, and you do a flying kick to knock him off the side of the building...forgetting you are still tied to him, and thus dragged to your near doom.

I think Obi-Wan saw/forsaw Jango reaching for his blasters and drew his lightsaber in defense. I'd hardly call that an act of recklessness. The kick was a miscalculation, he forgot he was tethered. An act of recklessness would have been more like if he jumped off the side in order to drag Jango over with him.

Btw, I'm now going to have to sit down and watch all 7 films with the list of Emotional Strengths & Weaknesses and note any examples I can spot.

Btw, I'm now going to have to sit down and watch all 7 films with the list of Emotional Strengths & Weaknesses and note any examples I can spot.

Great, tell me when you're done.

As long as we're nitpicking the examples...

3. You get into a fist fight with a guy on the outside of a really frictionless dome, in the rain, while tied to him, and you do a flying kick to knock him off the side of the building...forgetting you are still tied to him, and thus dragged to your near doom.

I think Obi-Wan saw/forsaw Jango reaching for his blasters and drew his lightsaber in defense. I'd hardly call that an act of recklessness. The kick was a miscalculation, he forgot he was tethered. An act of recklessness would have been more like if he jumped off the side in order to drag Jango over with him.

Btw, I'm now going to have to sit down and watch all 7 films with the list of Emotional Strengths & Weaknesses and note any examples I can spot.

I didn't know there where 7 Star Wars movies! When did they make the other 3? :ph34r: :ph34r: :lol:

As long as we're nitpicking the examples...

3. You get into a fist fight with a guy on the outside of a really frictionless dome, in the rain, while tied to him, and you do a flying kick to knock him off the side of the building...forgetting you are still tied to him, and thus dragged to your near doom.

I think Obi-Wan saw/forsaw Jango reaching for his blasters and drew his lightsaber in defense. I'd hardly call that an act of recklessness. The kick was a miscalculation, he forgot he was tethered. An act of recklessness would have been more like if he jumped off the side in order to drag Jango over with him.

Btw, I'm now going to have to sit down and watch all 7 films with the list of Emotional Strengths & Weaknesses and note any examples I can spot.

I didn't know there where 7 Star Wars movies! When did they make the other 3? :ph34r: :ph34r: :lol:

There are actually 8 :P

Episode One to Six, The Clone Wars (2008), and Clone Wars (2003, or better 2005) :P

As long as we're nitpicking the examples...

3. You get into a fist fight with a guy on the outside of a really frictionless dome, in the rain, while tied to him, and you do a flying kick to knock him off the side of the building...forgetting you are still tied to him, and thus dragged to your near doom.

I think Obi-Wan saw/forsaw Jango reaching for his blasters and drew his lightsaber in defense. I'd hardly call that an act of recklessness. The kick was a miscalculation, he forgot he was tethered. An act of recklessness would have been more like if he jumped off the side in order to drag Jango over with him.

Btw, I'm now going to have to sit down and watch all 7 films with the list of Emotional Strengths & Weaknesses and note any examples I can spot.

I didn't know there where 7 Star Wars movies! When did they make the other 3? :ph34r: :ph34r: :lol:

There are actually 8 :P

Episode One to Six, The Clone Wars (2008), and Clone Wars (2003, or better 2005) :P

Well, there's 12...

Episodes One to Seven, The Star Wars Holiday Special (1977), Star Wars: Ewok Adventure (1984), Ewoks: The Battle for Endor (1985), The Clone Wars (2008) and Clone Wars (2003/2005) ;)

Yeah, I was definitely only talking about the 7 "Episodes", not any of the cartoons, Ewok movies or the dreaded Holiday Special.

Yeah, I was definitely only talking about the 7 "Episodes", not any of the cartoons, Ewok movies or the dreaded Holiday Special.

I believe the new terminology for this is the "Saga." ;)

Just thought of this one (haven't read the whole thread, so if it's been mentioned, please excuse).

Bravery/Recklessness

Han Solo infiltrating the Death Star and going along to save a princess is brave . "Bring 'em on! I'd prefer a straight fight to all this sneakin' around" is him being reckless .

Luke Skywalker embarking upon Jedi training is ambitious , but he exhibits impatience at every turn: rushing off to Bespin against Yoda's advice, venturing into the dark side-tainted grove on Degoba...

You could also look at his actions as ambition and arrogance that he thinks he can take on the greatest threat the Jedi have ever faced--Darth Vader--all by himself after only a short time of training.