When FFG released X-Wing my gaming group thought (and hoped) that it would follow somekind of narrative (missions/campaign) but fast forward a couple of months and got disapointed (but still play it).

When FFG released Armada my gaming group thought (and hoped) that it would follow somekind of narrative (missions/campaign and maybe some kind of integration with X-Wing) but fast forward a couple of months and got disapointed (but still play it).

When FFG released Imperial Assault my gaming group didnt expected any kind of narrative (missions/campaigns) and was pleased to see that it played like Descent but better.

We all think that FFG had a good oportunity to make an excelent game system (theres even a RPG) like the good old Renegade Legion game system (best game system ever) but it seems its not the case so now we expect and embrace anything that gets throw at us by FFG... yeah... we are addicted to table top games for sure...

I don't think we will ever see any character that is distinctly iconic of the old canon. So no Thrawn, Mara Jade, Talon Karrde, Kyle Katarn, Dash Rendar etc. I don't think Disney would let that slide, while they include some minor stuff here and there like a minor remark about the Black Sun in a cartoon, they are trying their best to stay clear of directly referencing anything that played a large part in the old canon. After all, if they at any point legitimized just one character, they'd bring the entire EU crashing down back on their heads, since all that stuff got too interconnected over the years.

So there is always a chance...

~D

To the OP:

Great post! So often online forums begin with condescension and degenerate from there. Yours easily could have gone that route. Thanks for breaking the mold!

Now try reading his previous posts.

In reading his and yours, I find it painfully clear who is the main contributor to condescension and degeneration of the two...

You can never please all fans. Some hate prequels, some hate certain parts of EU, some hate TFA, some hate disney series, etc. For me X-Wing basically ended with TFA introduced so I started collecting IA and Armada. I do not mind clone war era stuff. It is at least more creative with the lore to TFA - there are just reskins of already made vehicles and story we have already seen yet strangly majority of players are happy to buy another X-Wing/TIE Fighter reskins and Falocn with new dish. Every X-Wing news announcments make me sad but IA still has a lot of opportunity before being forced to unclude TFA - I wounder if they introduce new core box with slightly reskinned troopers as well.

Here's the thing: This is a forum for Imperial Assault; it's purpose is so people can share their feelings about the game. Sometimes those feelings are negative but it doesn't mean they don't enjoy the game as a whole. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you only had good intentions here but to me (as someone who doesn't consider themselves an EU purist and isn't bothered in the slightest by the prospect of Rebels stuff being added) it reads like "You can have these opinions, but take them elsewhere."

Rey and Kylo are the new "Solo kids". No, Rey is not Hans daughter, but I'm pretty sure she'll be related to Luke.

Sure about that? I'm pretty sure, that Rey is either Luke's or Leia's daughter.

How cool would it be, if the first sentence of Ep.8 was "I am your father, Rey."

We should not mix up things.

Disney changed many aspects of their property. If we like it or not, it's Disney's property, so they can do with it, what they want. And what Disney wants, is having no legal issues concerning their intellectual property. Whilst Star Wars is Disney's intellectual property, General Thrawn for example is not. So they ruled, that everything, that is not Disney's intellectual property is no longer concerned canon. No company want's potential multimillion-dollar-lawsuits due to intellectual property violations. I wouldn't either.

This has nothing to do with Imperial Assault, so the Imperial Assault community is just not the right place to fight a war about that.

FFG has the right to create their own Imperial Assault non-canon EU, as long as Disney approves every single aspect of it. And it's quite unlikely, that Disney will approve anything in the future, that is a third party's intellectual property. Therefore, for example the Royal Guard Champion is not called Carnor Jax.

For sure, we will not change Disney's policies in this forum. But we are all Star Wars fans and Imperial Assault fans. Therefore, I think we shouldn't fight about things we can't change anyways.

For sure, we will not change Disney's policies in this forum. But we are all Star Wars fans and Imperial Assault fans. Therefore, I think we shouldn't fight about things we can't change anyways.

You can change it by buying or not buying. No demand = no money | High demand = profit.

I'd rather not get into this discussion, but I need to once again clarify that Lucasfilm makes Star Wars. Not Disney. Lucasfilm makes decisions about canon. About what it's licensees can do with it's property.

Lucasfilm.

Disney owns Lucasfilm. It gives them money to make Star Wars stuff. It receives money in return when that's profitable. It likely mandates things like hey we want this many films in this many years etc, but creative decisions are Lucasfilm's for the most part.

Just like Marvel.

I don't see people saying hey thanks Disney, Civil War was great! No they say thanks Marvel. So why is it different with LFL?

LUCASFILM MAKES STAR WARS.

To the OP:

Great post! So often online forums begin with condescension and degenerate from there. Yours easily could have gone that route. Thanks for breaking the mold!

Now try reading his previous posts.

Zero warning points here. Haven't I seen you talking about almost getting banned a few times?

Maybe you should reconsider how you react to things and what you say.

For example: that wasn't an attack, but you probably took it that way. It was a suggestion made in peace. Next time you want to lash out take a breath, wait, and assume the other person's (or group of people's) innocence. There are rational ways to communicate ideas without acting like a gorilla robbed of his last banana, and those ways are much more effective and palatable.

We should not mix up things.

Disney changed many aspects of their property. If we like it or not, it's Disney's property, so they can do with it, what they want. And what Disney wants, is having no legal issues concerning their intellectual property. Whilst Star Wars is Disney's intellectual property, General Thrawn for example is not. So they ruled, that everything, that is not Disney's intellectual property is no longer concerned canon. No company want's potential multimillion-dollar-lawsuits due to intellectual property violations. I wouldn't either.

This has nothing to do with Imperial Assault, so the Imperial Assault community is just not the right place to fight a war about that.

SO! they want to keep us die hard fans interested and yet bring in new people, so I feel youre going to see both. You dont think Disney cant afford the rights of Thrawn and Mara? LoL, I dont think you need to bother thinking of that answer either. If we pounded our chests loud enough to force it, I know Disney/FFG will listen. At this pt we are all just salivating at an awesome game and just want to continue to see great models, cards, game mechanics coming out.

~D

To the OP:

Great post! So often online forums begin with condescension and degenerate from there. Yours easily could have gone that route. Thanks for breaking the mold!

Now try reading his previous posts.

Zero warning points here. Haven't I seen you talking about almost getting banned a few times?

Maybe you should reconsider how you react to things and what you say.

For example: that wasn't an attack, but you probably took it that way. It was a suggestion made in peace. Next time you want to lash out take a breath, wait, and assume the other person's (or group of people's) innocence. There are rational ways to communicate ideas without acting like a gorilla robbed of his last banana, and those ways are much more effective and palatable.

You're no saint either you know.

A lot of Disney attitude comes from George Lucas' method of management. When asked about his thoughts on Star Wars fan fiction and mini-episodes, his commentary was one of support. He felt that as long as people were talking about it his dream would continue; he also commented that as soon as something started to make profit - he wanted his cut.

In regards to Disney, the people running the show are Pixar. They will do right by Star Wars and George Lucas' plans/characters. He gave them the money to start their company. GAVE them their startup money when no one else would look at them.

With the current lineup of managers and leaders, I have no problem waiting to see what's next. They announced they would use and discard what they want, not scrap totally.

Part of the whole '...20 years later' story line was to bypass Mara, she may have existed and died in that time. Who knows,and really cares that much.

IA is a great game, I would like the timeline to be fixed a little firmer, and any part of 2ABY is fine, as Jedi is supposed to be about ABY4 to 5.

I mean you can play the Emperor for crimminy sake in X-wing... the Emperor, really?

Having said all that, I would love a Kyle Katarn and Jan Ors expansion kit on Nar Shadaa. Mandala rains and bounty hunters.

Part of the whole '...20 years later' story line was to bypass Mara, she may have existed and died in that time. Who knows,and really cares that much.

Umm, I do. I happen to have an unashamed appreciation for redheads with laser swords wearing tight outfits. Just a specific thing I like, regardless of my indifference towards the rest of the old EU and even the fact that the specific character was boring as all hell and dumb as a chair once you got into the actual material (which was true for pretty much 99% of the old EU protagonists, the entire Mary Sue lot of them). I'm sure everyone has at least one thing that they appreciate in the old stuff, no matter how they feel about the entire thing.

I have accepted that will probably never happen in IA, though, and moved on. I'd like to see everone do so as well, since that would help cut a lot of the more or less pointless Legends-Disney bickering that goes on these boards.

Part of the whole '...20 years later' story line was to bypass Mara, she may have existed and died in that time. Who knows,and really cares that much.

Umm, I do. I happen to have an unashamed appreciation for redheads with laser swords wearing tight outfits. Just a specific thing I like, regardless of my indifference towards the rest of the old EU and even the fact that the specific character was boring as all hell and dumb as a chair once you got into the actual material (which was true for pretty much 99% of the old EU protagonists, the entire Mary Sue lot of them). I'm sure everyone has at least one thing that they appreciate in the old stuff, no matter how they feel about the entire thing.

I have accepted that will probably never happen in IA, though, and moved on. I'd like to see everone do so as well, since that would help cut a lot of the more or less pointless Legends-Disney bickering that goes on these boards.

You know what is funny, in a sad way. The only EU figure to break the Top 20 in action figures sales was Mara Jade from Shadows of the Empire. She regularly sold toys and merchandise, before the idea of forced feminism entered the picture, which is why she shows up so often. She was Black Widow before there was Black Widow. I would like to say "If Disney were smart" they would have taken a property that already had a proven record of sales without being featured in any film or cartoon (that I can think of) and capitalized on it. Let me add here that I've been collecting cool Star Wars action figures here and there since i was a teenager. They are all mint in a couple rubber maid bins in my basement. The TFA toys are abysmal. Some of the worst toys I've seen from Star Wars in a while. Mara Jade was tailor as the female icon they needed, but instead, they chose to invent Rey. Sad.

Part of the whole '...20 years later' story line was to bypass Mara, she may have existed and died in that time. Who knows,and really cares that much.

Umm, I do. I happen to have an unashamed appreciation for redheads with laser swords wearing tight outfits. Just a specific thing I like, regardless of my indifference towards the rest of the old EU and even the fact that the specific character was boring as all hell and dumb as a chair once you got into the actual material (which was true for pretty much 99% of the old EU protagonists, the entire Mary Sue lot of them). I'm sure everyone has at least one thing that they appreciate in the old stuff, no matter how they feel about the entire thing.

I have accepted that will probably never happen in IA, though, and moved on. I'd like to see everone do so as well, since that would help cut a lot of the more or less pointless Legends-Disney bickering that goes on these boards.

You know what is funny, in a sad way. The only EU figure to break the Top 20 in action figures sales was Mara Jade from Shadows of the Empire. She regularly sold toys and merchandise, before the idea of forced feminism entered the picture, which is why she shows up so often. She was Black Widow before there was Black Widow. I would like to say "If Disney were smart" they would have taken a property that already had a proven record of sales without being featured in any film or cartoon (that I can think of) and capitalized on it. Let me add here that I've been collecting cool Star Wars action figures here and there since i was a teenager. They are all mint in a couple rubber maid bins in my basement. The TFA toys are abysmal. Some of the worst toys I've seen from Star Wars in a while. Mara Jade was tailor as the female icon they needed, but instead, they chose to invent Rey. Sad.

Lets be honest, if Hollywood did Mara Jade they would've ruined her.

She was Black Widow before there was Black Widow.

Just saying: Natasha Romanov predates Star Wars in its entirety, let alone Mara Jade.

Part of the whole '...20 years later' story line was to bypass Mara, she may have existed and died in that time. Who knows,and really cares that much.

Umm, I do. I happen to have an unashamed appreciation for redheads with laser swords wearing tight outfits. Just a specific thing I like, regardless of my indifference towards the rest of the old EU and even the fact that the specific character was boring as all hell and dumb as a chair once you got into the actual material (which was true for pretty much 99% of the old EU protagonists, the entire Mary Sue lot of them). I'm sure everyone has at least one thing that they appreciate in the old stuff, no matter how they feel about the entire thing.

I have accepted that will probably never happen in IA, though, and moved on. I'd like to see everone do so as well, since that would help cut a lot of the more or less pointless Legends-Disney bickering that goes on these boards.

You know what is funny, in a sad way. The only EU figure to break the Top 20 in action figures sales was Mara Jade from Shadows of the Empire. She regularly sold toys and merchandise, before the idea of forced feminism entered the picture, which is why she shows up so often. She was Black Widow before there was Black Widow. I would like to say "If Disney were smart" they would have taken a property that already had a proven record of sales without being featured in any film or cartoon (that I can think of) and capitalized on it. Let me add here that I've been collecting cool Star Wars action figures here and there since i was a teenager. They are all mint in a couple rubber maid bins in my basement. The TFA toys are abysmal. Some of the worst toys I've seen from Star Wars in a while. Mara Jade was tailor as the female icon they needed, but instead, they chose to invent Rey. Sad.

Lets be honest, if Hollywood did Mara Jade they would've ruined her.

Let's be honest, there's not much to ruin. Outside of the concept of being a chick with Force powers, she has about as much character and personality as a piece of plywood. She's the token female, invented just to give Luke a love interest, because him not having a partner to care for would have made for a poor role model, and was made a badass chick with a laser sword to pull double duty as a pieco of shameless fanpandering for an adolescent male audience since Leia got too pregnant to wear that golden bikini oops, I mean, an empowered independent woman.

She was Black Widow before there was Black Widow.

Just saying: Natasha Romanov predates Star Wars in its entirety, let alone Mara Jade.

You are correct. I apologize for that.

Part of the whole '...20 years later' story line was to bypass Mara, she may have existed and died in that time. Who knows,and really cares that much.

Umm, I do. I happen to have an unashamed appreciation for redheads with laser swords wearing tight outfits. Just a specific thing I like, regardless of my indifference towards the rest of the old EU and even the fact that the specific character was boring as all hell and dumb as a chair once you got into the actual material (which was true for pretty much 99% of the old EU protagonists, the entire Mary Sue lot of them). I'm sure everyone has at least one thing that they appreciate in the old stuff, no matter how they feel about the entire thing.

I have accepted that will probably never happen in IA, though, and moved on. I'd like to see everone do so as well, since that would help cut a lot of the more or less pointless Legends-Disney bickering that goes on these boards.

You know what is funny, in a sad way. The only EU figure to break the Top 20 in action figures sales was Mara Jade from Shadows of the Empire. She regularly sold toys and merchandise, before the idea of forced feminism entered the picture, which is why she shows up so often. She was Black Widow before there was Black Widow. I would like to say "If Disney were smart" they would have taken a property that already had a proven record of sales without being featured in any film or cartoon (that I can think of) and capitalized on it. Let me add here that I've been collecting cool Star Wars action figures here and there since i was a teenager. They are all mint in a couple rubber maid bins in my basement. The TFA toys are abysmal. Some of the worst toys I've seen from Star Wars in a while. Mara Jade was tailor as the female icon they needed, but instead, they chose to invent Rey. Sad.

Lets be honest, if Hollywood did Mara Jade they would've ruined her.

Let's be honest, there's not much to ruin. Outside of the concept of being a chick with Force powers, she has about as much character and personality as a piece of plywood. She's the token female, invented just to give Luke a love interest, because him not having a partner to care for would have made for a poor role model, and was made a badass chick with a laser sword to pull double duty as a pieco of shameless fanpandering for an adolescent male audience since Leia got too pregnant to wear that golden bikini oops, I mean, an empowered independent woman.

Yes, Mara Jade is a token, but Rey, she's a well rounded character. C'mon, man. Mara Jade has a pretty decent backstory as Star Wars goes. Are you sure you're not just mad that you can't prove misogyny for for the hatred of Rey because Star Wars fans long ago accepted strong female characters?

I'm not mad about anything. And I'm not in the habit of pulling out misogyny as an argument for any discussion.

However, I can tell what's what when I am presented with a busty redhead in a shiny skintight catsuit. It's not like it takes deep analysis.

I happen to be a heterosexual male, I enjoy busty redheads in shiny skintight catsuits and I'm not ashamed to admit that, which is why I don't obfuscate the issue by rationalizing to myself that it's some kind of a woman empowerment moral high ground.

I love the entirety of Star Wars, both as a whole and all the bits individually. But I also recognize all of its flaws, accept them and poke at them for good-natured fun, not "hate". In my book, that's a part of any healthy and sane relationship.

I'm not mad about anything. And I'm not in the habit of pulling out misogyny as an argument for any discussion.

However, I can tell what's what when I am presented with busty redhead in a shiny skintight catsuit. It's not like it takes deep analysis.

I happen to be a heterosexual male, I enjoy busty redheads in shiny skintight carsuits and I'm not ashamed to admit that, which is why I don't obfuscate the issue by rationalizing to myself that it's some kind of a woman empowerment moral high ground.

I love the entirety Star Wars, both as a whole and all the bits individually. But I also recognize all of its flaws, accept them and poke at them for good-natured fun. In my book, that's a part of any healthy and sane relationship.

Fair enough. We've both given our opinions. I'm ready to go back to IA talk.

And where did that catsuit come from? When we first meet Mara Jade, she wears a practical coverall, and has a forearm sheath for her blaster which is hidden from view. Not something you do while wearing a catsuit.

Have you ever conducted a Google image search of "Mara Jade"?

Have you ever conducted a Google image search of "Mara Jade"?

Yes. But I mean the description of her in the books.