I can see FFG doing a cool pre-EP4 expansion that can incorporate all the cool new elements from Rogue one like those dark troopers and Hovertanks we saw in the movie as well as the AT DT walkers, the cadet troopers and some of the inquistor stuff. Also then they can have Rebel agents from different rebel cells and off shoots and all the cool nods from Rebels and Rogue one in one expansion extravaganza!

It's a smart move seeing as the jump forward to TFA would have been 30 years and honestly too big to connect with the current story they have going on.

Who knows, maybe you'll get Gideon as an imperial commander still? Fenn as a storm trooper? Put some backstory to current FFG characters.

The timing will be perfect as well. Announce it this summer after Bespin launches and have it come out just in time to coincide with the Rogue One Movie. They said Q3 for the figures though, which means they would be out before the expansion... I just find it so weird they would release figures that don't fit in the timeline at all. Unless these are going the route of the Wave 4 and get delayed, delayed and delayed some more to coincide or follow the Pre EP4 expansion.

Who knows, maybe you'll get Gideon as an imperial commander still? Fenn as a storm trooper? Put some backstory to current FFG characters.

Wait, Gideon is supposed to be an ex-Imperial officer? Wow, I missed that bit. No wonder they kicked him out though, what with the whole Caucasian Male And Bonus Points For Posh British Gentlemen theme they were going for with their officer cadre.

Rae Sloane might disagree with that.

Oh cool, I did not know this, since I don't listen to hip-ho... I mean, follow the new canon of books and comics I love how all the art on that page makes her look like a high school cheerleader, while she's supposed to be forty by the Battle of Yavin Do they actually do anything interesting with her in the books, or is she dark-skinned and female just for the sake of that? Honest question.

Who knows, maybe you'll get Gideon as an imperial commander still? Fenn as a storm trooper? Put some backstory to current FFG characters.

Wait, Gideon is supposed to be an ex-Imperial officer? Wow, I missed that bit. No wonder they kicked him out though, what with the whole Caucasian Male And Bonus Points For Posh British Gentlemen theme they were going for with their officer cadre.

Rae Sloane might disagree with that.

Oh cool, I did not know this, since I don't listen to hip-ho... I mean, follow the new canon of books and comics I love how all the art on that page makes her look like a high school cheerleader, while she's supposed to be forty by the Battle of Yavin Do they actually do anything interesting with her in the books, or is she dark-skinned and female just for the sake of that? Honest question.

She's dark skinned and female because she's dark skinned and female. It's never a plot point. She's never like look at me i'm a strong woman. She's just a person working for the Empire who happens to be a dark skinned female. A big deal of it is never made about one way or the other.

She was introduced by John Jackson Miller (Kenobi, KOTOR comics, Lost Tribe of the SIth) in the novel A New Dawn.

In regards to the art on the page that art is of her roughly 5BBY, so yeah she'd look younger than 40.

the main question about the Rebels exp box, is whether theyre going to make the main 6 Rebel team, the playable heroes, or make them ALL just allies...

What he said...

the main question about the Rebels exp box, is whether theyre going to make the main 6 Rebel team, the playable heroes, or make them ALL just allies...

What he said...

Precedent leads me to think they'll make new heroes for the campaign, and the Rebels crew would be allies, but that's a lot of allies, and it would be sort of odd to have one or two popping in here and there rather than them all working together.

I can see it going both ways, if in fact there's a Rebels box coming out.

Who knows, maybe you'll get Gideon as an imperial commander still? Fenn as a storm trooper? Put some backstory to current FFG characters.

Wait, Gideon is supposed to be an ex-Imperial officer? Wow, I missed that bit. No wonder they kicked him out though, what with the whole Caucasian Male And Bonus Points For Posh British Gentlemen theme they were going for with their officer cadre.

Rae Sloane might disagree with that.

Oh cool, I did not know this, since I don't listen to hip-ho... I mean, follow the new canon of books and comics I love how all the art on that page makes her look like a high school cheerleader, while she's supposed to be forty by the Battle of Yavin Do they actually do anything interesting with her in the books, or is she dark-skinned and female just for the sake of that? Honest question.

She's dark skinned and female because she's dark skinned and female. It's never a plot point. She's never like look at me i'm a strong woman. She's just a person working for the Empire who happens to be a dark skinned female. A big deal of it is never made about one way or the other.

She was introduced by John Jackson Miller (Kenobi, KOTOR comics, Lost Tribe of the SIth) in the novel A New Dawn.

In regards to the art on the page that art is of her roughly 5BBY, so yeah she'd look younger than 40.

Cool, thanks!

The whole xenophobia of the empire is based on nothing. Two reasons, Star Wars was filmed in England, and the extras were English. Second, the one scene in ESB where the deck officer says "Bounty Hunters, we don't need their scum." To me, that was a sentiment directly against these mercenaries, not at aliens in general. It must have been a hit to his pride that DV was going outside his own organization for help.

The whole xenophobia of the empire is based on nothing. Two reasons, Star Wars was filmed in England, and the extras were English. Second, the one scene in ESB where the deck officer says "Bounty Hunters, we don't need their scum." To me, that was a sentiment directly against these mercenaries, not at aliens in general. It must have been a hit to his pride that DV was going outside his own organization for help.

A lot of old storytelling in Star Wars was like that for a while. Large broad generalizations made off of tiny moments.

This one alien guy was a certain way? Every member of his species must be just like that! etc.

The whole xenophobia of the empire is based on nothing. Two reasons, Star Wars was filmed in England, and the extras were English. Second, the one scene in ESB where the deck officer says "Bounty Hunters, we don't need their scum." To me, that was a sentiment directly against these mercenaries, not at aliens in general. It must have been a hit to his pride that DV was going outside his own organization for help.

A lot of old storytelling in Star Wars was like that for a while. Large broad generalizations made off of tiny moments.

This one alien guy was a certain way? Every member of his species must be just like that! etc.

Oh yeah, you can say that again. I always loved how Star Wars logic for alien civilizations was basically "Jabba was a mobster and had a Twi-Lek dancing girl, ergo the Hutts are an entire nation of mobsters and Twi-Leks are an entire nation of sex slaves". Makes me chuckle every time I watch ROTJ.

The whole xenophobia of the empire is based on nothing. Two reasons, Star Wars was filmed in England, and the extras were English. Second, the one scene in ESB where the deck officer says "Bounty Hunters, we don't need their scum." To me, that was a sentiment directly against these mercenaries, not at aliens in general. It must have been a hit to his pride that DV was going outside his own organization for help.

Other than Yoda, Chewie and a few Rebels with little screen time, the aliens didn't came off very well in the original Star Wars either. Tattooine was all aliens and was a wretched hive of scum and villainy with plenty of murder and reinforced in the prequels with slavery. Jabba, the crime lord's palace, all aliens, more slavery and murder. Jawwas and Tuskans all stealing, murdering scum. Uggnots ripping C3-PO apart. Even the Ewoks wanted to eat the humans. Until they went and blew up an inhabited moon for the LOLz, The Empire could almost seem like they were the lesser of the evils.

The whole xenophobia of the empire is based on nothing. Two reasons, Star Wars was filmed in England, and the extras were English. Second, the one scene in ESB where the deck officer says "Bounty Hunters, we don't need their scum." To me, that was a sentiment directly against these mercenaries, not at aliens in general. It must have been a hit to his pride that DV was going outside his own organization for help.

A lot of old storytelling in Star Wars was like that for a while. Large broad generalizations made off of tiny moments.

This one alien guy was a certain way? Every member of his species must be just like that! etc.

Yes, you are very correct, not only that, but so many planets are single Biome. A staple of science fiction and space fantasy, along with the simplistic representation of an alien culture. It reminds me of the elevator ride in the original Mass Effect when you take Wrex and Kaiden. Kaiden is a human and says to Wrex, a Krogan who considered a warrior race, "I haven't spend much time around Krogan, Wrex, and I must say, you're not what I expected." Wrex responds, "Right, because you humans have a wide range of cultures and attitudes, but Krogan all think and act exactly alike."

The whole xenophobia of the empire is based on nothing. Two reasons, Star Wars was filmed in England, and the extras were English. Second, the one scene in ESB where the deck officer says "Bounty Hunters, we don't need their scum." To me, that was a sentiment directly against these mercenaries, not at aliens in general. It must have been a hit to his pride that DV was going outside his own organization for help.

A lot of old storytelling in Star Wars was like that for a while. Large broad generalizations made off of tiny moments.

This one alien guy was a certain way? Every member of his species must be just like that! etc.

Wrex responds, "Right, because you humans have a wide range of cultures and attitudes, but Krogan all think and act exactly alike."

To a Krogan... I would be shocked if it didn't seem like humans all acted and thought exactly alike. Being an extremely long-lived warrior race they are going to be so dissimilar to humans there won't be much overlap for variance to be all that apparent.

I loved how in old EU over 50% of aliens in Star Wars were "A war-like race". Mostly all the creatures in Jabba's palace were "a war-like race" and while humans could by some definition be described as "a war-like race", I would hope someone took the time to look into the whole of humanity before grouping us in to that one ideal.

I loved playing the Star Wars RP games so that I could take those hollow and honestly lazy species descriptions and play out how I thought the races would act and behave base on their society and world they evolved in.

KOTOR races were pretty developed though.

I loved how in old EU over 50% of aliens in Star Wars were "A war-like race". Mostly all the creatures in Jabba's palace were "a war-like race" and while humans could by some definition be described as "a war-like race", I would hope someone took the time to look into the whole of humanity before grouping us in to that one ideal.

I loved playing the Star Wars RP games so that I could take those hollow and honestly lazy species descriptions and play out how I thought the races would act and behave base on their society and world they evolved in.

KOTOR races were pretty developed though.

I would express it as, KOTOR did a good job of developing some of the established races. Their take on Wookiees wasn't half bad, and in my cases there was at least an attempt to portray some representative of the species outside of the confines of their normal single culture. Except for Trandoshans. I never saw them, that I can think, ever being anything but lizard-y shock troops who like to quote-unquote hunt.

SWTOR did a great Trandoshan companion that shed ideas on thier culture. On how some saw the great hunt as just getting more kills and how others saw the strength and stamina of an enemy adding to its worth in the hunt. Then, as you die, you go to a Valhalla where "the score keeper" tallies the worth of your hunt and your place on the afterlife.

It's still violence based but with more of an honour code then previously seen. You could also be in the hunt pack of a great hunter and he gets your points but his points reflect on you in death as well. Making for a selfish life debt. There's a trandoshan in the KOTOR comics that becomes a cook on a ship after the captain saves his life and the trandoshan sees him as the better hunter too.

SWTOR did a great Trandoshan companion that [blah blah blah]

Okay okay, but cut to the chase already: is he romance-able?

SWTOR did a great Trandoshan companion that [blah blah blah]

Okay okay, but cut to the chase already: is he romance-able?

My consular say, "Once you trando..." Or something like that.

Sorry Boba Rick, I guess unlike you I can actually read books and enjoy them.

Anyways, there is no time period event on these side mission cards. So you can bring Obi-wan and Greedo on missions when they were already dead.

#lolffgcaresaboutstarwarslore

Dude, FFG and Disney dont care really about what you want/feel based off what Ive read thru in most of your negative posts.

BUT you want to know whats great about this game? If you dont want to include Rebels in your campaign, you dont have to. If you dont want Ewoks to show up, you dont have to. If you dont want any Force Users except the original 4 (Twins, Obi, & Vader) you dont have to. If you dont want any of them in your skirmish armies, you dont have to use them (sure youll prob face them) but YOU dont have to use them and can stick to your "ideal" Star Wars universe.

So quit your griping.

NOW, the main question about the Rebels exp box, is whether theyre going to make the main 6 Rebel team, the playable heroes, or make them ALL just allies...

~D

Except i have to wait for all this Rebel's and other trash to get over with until we can finally see some good stuff... IF we ever do.

Would you have preferred if I invoked the angsty Boba Fett fanpander jetpack girl who expresses her cool teenage rebelious tendencies by doing graffiti? I'd enjoy making you cringe either way

And people wonder what my problem with Rebels is...

SWTOR did a great Trandoshan companion

I cannot condone calling Qyzen a great companion: his recruitment is just so out of thin air (Herald of The Scorekeeper? Really?) and his themes are so of base with those of the consular's story, and this is the primary companion for the class.

SWTOR did a great Trandoshan companion

I cannot condone calling Qyzen a great companion: his recruitment is just so out of thin air (Herald of The Scorekeeper? Really?) and his themes are so of base with those of the consular's story, and this is the primary companion for the class.

But they do counter balance it with the Smuggler's companion Bowdaar (the wookie). They put that the Trandoshans hunted the wookies down for fun, not sport, and were rather ruthless in their murderess ways. So it gives the Trandoshans a bit of backstory on how most were/are hunters as others stated. They are kind of like "The Predator" of the star wars races.

~D

the main question about the Rebels exp box, is whether theyre going to make the main 6 Rebel team, the playable heroes, or make them ALL just allies...

What he said...

Precedent leads me to think they'll make new heroes for the campaign, and the Rebels crew would be allies, but that's a lot of allies, and it would be sort of odd to have one or two popping in here and there rather than them all working together.

I can see it going both ways, if in fact there's a Rebels box coming out.

One of the things I thought that would be cool to add is a card called something like "Unexpected Ally" where perhaps its a reward that allows you to create a side deck of 2-6 hero skirmish cards (that arent the heroes being used in the campaign) and one is randomly drawn and thats the ally you bring to that mission and the Imperial Player only gets like 4 threat. So you can bring in a Biv/Gaarkhan/Fenn for super cheap. And if you have Murins exp card, basically for free. But its random.

~D

that's a fun idea, a random deck of potential allies.

Would you have preferred if I invoked the angsty Boba Fett fanpander jetpack girl who expresses her cool teenage rebelious tendencies by doing graffiti? I'd enjoy making you cringe either way

And people wonder what my problem with Rebels is...

Yup, it has a bit of that in it.

But honestly, the old EU had the same kind of cringeworthy stuff in spades. Come on, it had a random astromech drroid running away from home to become a Jedi after apparently getting some of them middle chlorians stuck up his exhaust.

It had and entire civilization of angsty goth BDSM aliens invading the galaxy.

It had an angsty teenager reimagining of Scooby Doo and the Mystery Machine gang the Solo kids.

It even had a cyborg Imperial admiral going all "I'll get you next time, Gadget" at R2D2 for wrecking a "robot harem".

Star Wars stuff has always been this way. Rebels is just continuing on that steady path after the franchise shook some stuff up. Getting offended by that is pretty ridiculous in my book.

Also it had "jizz music" and the talented players of it, "jizz wailers". Then the last old EU story was Lule looking for the Star Wars version of God, a pure light force being in a black hole and fighting the personification of the dark side.