Has enyone noticed that kenobis price is covered???

And are we going to start getting item cards with each figure pack???

Yes, and we don't even see the skirmish card. The visible one is Campaign only. They might begin including item cards and better agenda cards with the stand alone blisters to give campaign only players more incentive to buy. The Ancient Lightsaber weapon is great.

Ok so apparently now we can buy Lightsabers at Star Walmart.... wtf is a merchant doing selling Obi-Wan's lightsaber to the Rebel Alliance?!

<ahem> opening scene of Force Awakens

There are no lightsabers in the open scenes of TFA. I don't follow.

It's also not Obi Wan's lightsaber. It's an ancient lightsaber. Guess the merchant had one lying around.

My mistake, one of the pre-release synopses had Luke's lightsaber being given to a Resistance agent, In the movie, it's the map. Sorry

I feel like I should go watch Star Wars Rebels now. As I suspect we'll end up with even more characters popping up from the series.

I feel like I should go watch Star Wars Rebels now. As I suspect we'll end up with even more characters popping up from the series.

You should. I think half the people on here will say it's trash, and the other half will say it's great.

You should decide for yourself.

So on my way home from campus yesterday I had a fantastic idea on what ability Obi-Wan's skirmish card might have.

"More powerful than you can possibly imagine: when this figure is defeated gain 4 victory points" (name and number may vary).

So on my way home from campus yesterday I had a fantastic idea on what ability Obi-Wan's skirmish card might have.

"More powerful than you can possibly imagine: when this figure is defeated gain 4 victory points" (name and number may vary).

Nah... defeat should spawn a force ghost version of his card that... well lies to the heroes in private but otherwise "cannot interfere."

I feel like I should go watch Star Wars Rebels now. As I suspect we'll end up with even more characters popping up from the series.

It's a little "meh" until the Inquisitor shows up as a villain. Great bad guy. The strength of any story is the antagonist.

So on my way home from campus yesterday I had a fantastic idea on what ability Obi-Wan's skirmish card might have.

"More powerful than you can possibly imagine: when this figure is defeated gain 4 victory points" (name and number may vary).

Cool idea, but victory points? A little boring. How 'bout this: If Obi-wan has been defeated, put this card into play from your hand or discard pile as an attachment on a unique unit you control. Attached unit gains [surge]: Recover 2, Focus. If attached unit is defeated, remove this card from the game.

Brainstorming is all cool and fun, but I hope you realize that we already know what his Command Card is.

Brainstorming is all cool and fun, but I hope you realize that we already know what his Command Card is.

Huh, you're right. Pretty underwhelming (and the name doesn't make much sense for the effect), but I guess that's why it only costs 1.

I had a similar reaction for having a purchasable lightsaber, but I guess it makes sense.

There are lots more lightsabers in the universe than Jedi at this point. Also doesn't make a lot of sense that Diala doesn't have one, Jedi can make them, hell even Ezra made his own gunsword.

As for anyone else wielding it... Well I guess it might be good on Loku, and considering he's easily the worst character that isn't a bad thing. Anyone else isn't going to want it.

I had a similar reaction for having a purchasable lightsaber, but I guess it makes sense.

There are lots more lightsabers in the universe than Jedi at this point. Also doesn't make a lot of sense that Diala doesn't have one, Jedi can make them, hell even Ezra made his own gunsword.

As for anyone else wielding it... Well I guess it might be good on Loku, and considering he's easily the worst character that isn't a bad thing. Anyone else isn't going to want it.

Maybe Loku is related to Guss Tano!!

~D

I had a similar reaction for having a purchasable lightsaber, but I guess it makes sense.

There are lots more lightsabers in the universe than Jedi at this point. Also doesn't make a lot of sense that Diala doesn't have one, Jedi can make them, hell even Ezra made his own gunsword.

As for anyone else wielding it... Well I guess it might be good on Loku, and considering he's easily the worst character that isn't a bad thing. Anyone else isn't going to want it.

Diala isn't a Jedi. She's a Force-sensitive that received limited tips and hints about the whole Jedi thing. And Ezra had to go through an entire spirit journey in order to get the parts to make his laser dohikey, and needed specific instructions from Kanaan to even attempt the whole "let's make the lazor sword, woo" thing.

Diala got neither the guidance to get the parts, nor any hints on how to make the thing even if she got them, what with her master getting himself killed by Vader before doing much with her. Which is why her only option was "inheriting" one after him.

You seem to assume that one gets up one day, realizes they can do Force stuff, and poof, they become a member of the Jedi Order and get instinctive knowledge about building what we are told is one of the most sophisticated weapons in the galaxy and proceed to do so with parts from an old refrigerator. "The Force doesn't work like that!"

Getting a lightsaber is supposed to be a Big Deal in the Star Wars franchise, even though logic would dictate that there would be some just laying around. It's part of the spiritual side of Star Wars. Which is why I loved the fact that the only Force-using hero in IA had to actually go through an in-game trial to get one. It felt like a perfect nod to the entire mythos and Diala is still my first choice when playing the campaign just because of that, even though usually I'm not that hot on Jedi stuff in the first place. Heck, I got an extra Diala miniature and hacked her up to hold a staff, so that I can switch the miniature out to mark her completion of the trial by laying her master to rest.

It is also why dislike the idea that Nightwing Davith can just buy one with XP and either character can just spend credits to get one. It cheapens the narrative experience and robs the lighsaber of its myth. However, I can recognize that it is needed simply for the game mechanics to work and for the character balance to make sense, so I consider it a necessary evil.

Other than that, I'm not sure why you consider Loku to be the worst character. I've been playing him in the Hoth campaign and having a blast. His target lock thing is great for increasing the DPS of the entire team and his innate ACC bonus opens him up for using item combinations that are not feasible for other characters. A 5/5 Speed and Endurance value is also exceptional.

On the evaluation of the new lightsaber, I withhold judgement until I know whether it's Tier II or Tier III. But even if it's III, I think you are being harsh by saying it's basically useless.

A possible solution might be to increase the amount of cards drawn every upgrade stage instead of pulling cards out of the deck. But I don't think we're there yet to be honest.

There are 12 items in each tier of the core set, and you draw 6 at the end of the mission, which is a 1 to 2 ratio. If you wanted to keep the ratios the same, you could draw an additional card from the deck for every 2 cards you add to it. That's probably a bit much, but drawing an additional card for every 3-5 cards you add to the item decks could work.

Dunno I like having a bigger item deck. Right now people seem to be like "this I'd a good choice but we are likely draw a better one next time". The more items, the more you pick out what is good even if you know there is a better option in the deck, since you are not as likely to see it.

I read through the first six pages without seeing it...

Gideon Argus with a LS?

Diala isn't a Jedi. She's a Force-sensitive that received limited tips and hints about the whole Jedi thing. And Ezra had to go through an entire spirit journey in order to get the parts to make his laser dohikey, and needed specific instructions from Kanaan to even attempt the whole "let's make the lazor sword, woo" thing.

Diala got neither the guidance to get the parts, nor any hints on how to make the thing even if she got them, what with her master getting himself killed by Vader before doing much with her. Which is why her only option was "inheriting" one after him.

You seem to assume that one gets up one day, realizes they can do Force stuff, and poof, they become a member of the Jedi Order and get instinctive knowledge about building what we are told is one of the most sophisticated weapons in the galaxy and proceed to do so with parts from an old refrigerator. "The Force doesn't work like that!"

Getting a lightsaber is supposed to be a Big Deal in the Star Wars franchise, even though logic would dictate that there would be some just laying around. It's part of the spiritual side of Star Wars. Which is why I loved the fact that the only Force-using hero in IA had to actually go through an in-game trial to get one. It felt like a perfect nod to the entire mythos and Diala is still my first choice when playing the campaign just because of that, even though usually I'm not that hot on Jedi stuff in the first place. Heck, I got an extra Diala miniature and hacked her up to hold a staff, so that I can switch the miniature out to mark her completion of the trial by laying her master to rest.

It is also why dislike the idea that Nightwing Davith can just buy one with XP and either character can just spend credits to get one. It cheapens the narrative experience and robs the lighsaber of its myth. However, I can recognize that it is needed simply for the game mechanics to work and for the character balance to make sense, so I consider it a necessary evil.

Other than that, I'm not sure why you consider Loku to be the worst character. I've been playing him in the Hoth campaign and having a blast. His target lock thing is great for increasing the DPS of the entire team and his innate ACC bonus opens him up for using item combinations that are not feasible for other characters. A 5/5 Speed and Endurance value is also exceptional.

On the evaluation of the new lightsaber, I withhold judgement until I know whether it's Tier II or Tier III. But even if it's III, I think you are being harsh by saying it's basically useless.

I had no problem with Diala. I thought she was the right mix of post Jedi era force user. I'm starting to sense a disturbance in the force however, as Rebels is already piling on the glow bats and it will inevitably ooze into IA. There should be a new law. Fandom Law, the longer a game based in the Star Wars universe progresses, the chance of "force users" (i.e. competing glow-bat wielders) overrunning everything else approaches one.

I read through the first six pages without seeing it...

Gideon Argus with a LS?

Apparently he and Mak have some latent force abilities...Or else enough combat training to still make good use of it, a la General Grievous.

I read through the first six pages without seeing it...

Gideon Argus with a LS?

Apparently he and Mak have some latent force abilities...Or else enough combat training to still make good use of it, a la General Grievous.

This gives me my first opportunity to invoke Fandom's Law*

* The more a Star Wars based game expands, the probability of "force users" overrunning everything else approaches one.

Okay everyone, lets go over this again and now say it with me one more time...

"A lightsaber does not make one a Jedi..."

Say that out loud 10 times or until you finally understand...its a made up world and a game...

Now go out and assault something!!

~D

I had a similar reaction for having a purchasable lightsaber, but I guess it makes sense.

There are lots more lightsabers in the universe than Jedi at this point. Also doesn't make a lot of sense that Diala doesn't have one, Jedi can make them, hell even Ezra made his own gunsword.

As for anyone else wielding it... Well I guess it might be good on Loku, and considering he's easily the worst character that isn't a bad thing. Anyone else isn't going to want it.

You seem to assume that one gets up one day, realizes they can do Force stuff, and poof, they become a member of the Jedi Order and get instinctive knowledge about building what we are told is one of the most sophisticated weapons in the galaxy and proceed to do so with parts from an old refrigerator. "The Force doesn't work like that!"

So, what you're saying is you haven't seen The Force Awakens. Because that is pretty much the plot. Woman has the force, gets drawn to a light saber, outshoots a bunch of elite storm troopers despite never having fired a gun, masters multiple advanced force techniques the first time she tries despite knowing nothing of the force, overpowers a highly trained Sith and beats him up with the light saber she's never had any training for.

Welcome to the new and "improved" Star Wars.

I had a similar reaction for having a purchasable lightsaber, but I guess it makes sense.

There are lots more lightsabers in the universe than Jedi at this point. Also doesn't make a lot of sense that Diala doesn't have one, Jedi can make them, hell even Ezra made his own gunsword.

As for anyone else wielding it... Well I guess it might be good on Loku, and considering he's easily the worst character that isn't a bad thing. Anyone else isn't going to want it.

You seem to assume that one gets up one day, realizes they can do Force stuff, and poof, they become a member of the Jedi Order and get instinctive knowledge about building what we are told is one of the most sophisticated weapons in the galaxy and proceed to do so with parts from an old refrigerator. "The Force doesn't work like that!"

So, what you're saying is you haven't seen The Force Awakens. Because that is pretty much the plot. Woman has the force, gets drawn to a light saber, outshoots a bunch of elite storm troopers despite never having fired a gun, masters multiple advanced force techniques the first time she tries despite knowing nothing of the force, overpowers a highly trained Sith and beats him up with the light saber she's never had any training for.

Welcome to the new and "improved" Star Wars.

And that is why many people hate TFA.

So, what you're saying is you haven't seen The Force Awakens. Because that is pretty much the plot. Woman has the force, gets drawn to a light saber, outshoots a bunch of elite storm troopers despite never having fired a gun, masters multiple advanced force techniques the first time she tries despite knowing nothing of the force, overpowers a highly trained Sith and beats him up with the light saber she's never had any training for.

Welcome to the new and "improved" Star Wars.

And that is why many people hate TFA.

Still better than anything from the prequels!!

~D

I had a similar reaction for having a purchasable lightsaber, but I guess it makes sense.

There are lots more lightsabers in the universe than Jedi at this point. Also doesn't make a lot of sense that Diala doesn't have one, Jedi can make them, hell even Ezra made his own gunsword.

As for anyone else wielding it... Well I guess it might be good on Loku, and considering he's easily the worst character that isn't a bad thing. Anyone else isn't going to want it.

You seem to assume that one gets up one day, realizes they can do Force stuff, and poof, they become a member of the Jedi Order and get instinctive knowledge about building what we are told is one of the most sophisticated weapons in the galaxy and proceed to do so with parts from an old refrigerator. "The Force doesn't work like that!"

So, what you're saying is you haven't seen The Force Awakens. Because that is pretty much the plot. Woman has the force, gets drawn to a light saber, outshoots a bunch of elite storm troopers despite never having fired a gun, masters multiple advanced force techniques the first time she tries despite knowing nothing of the force, overpowers a highly trained Sith and beats him up with the light saber she's never had any training for.

Welcome to the new and "improved" Star Wars.

Jeez this again :-) I do find it weird that she was able to pull the mind trick after failing only once but the lightsaber duel with Kylo? He was bleeding out from a bowcaster shot, had been injured by Finn in their very short duel and had just killed his dad. Maybe not at his fighting best. And Rey had survived on her own on Jakku for years, I'm sure she had to fight off a rival scavenger or weird beast at least a few times so the idea that she'd be totally incapable of defending herself just annoys me. No offense but jeez can we just be happy that we got a cool Star wars movie? No not better than ESB but at least it met most folks expectations. Hell it made a SW fan of my wife! (I also love Rebels) ;-)

The plot abilities of Rey are insignificant compared to the stupidity of the Star Killer weapon, and flying through the shields at "light speed"