Obi-Wan kenobi, Greedo and The grand Inqusitor packs announced!

By Muz333, in Star Wars: Imperial Assault

FFG will release whatever they want and those that dont like it only need to not buy them. Simple. No one is pointing a gun to the head to anyone not willing to buy.

That's a bit harsh, I haven't yet seen anyone bothered by the pre-Yavin characters. People are simply wondering how they'll fit in the structure as we know it.

yeah. It's been a "hmm that's interesting. Let's see how that plays out." rather than a "omg I won't but it this is stupid" kind of thing.

I can't see why they wouldn't cash in on the Rebels TV Show era stuff. I don't need the Episode 1-3 prequel stuff, but I can't see why they wouldn't use what's currently available and being promoted. Kids love that show, many adults do as well, and as these individuals expand into gaming they're going to gravitate to what they enjoy and what's familiar.

Of note, I started playing the campaign with a couple of my friends and their 11 year old sons. One of the boys has become so excited and into this game that he's asked for only one thing for his 11th birthday (this week). He's asked for an IA Core Set.

Jacob

Remember that the Smuggler and Bantha Rider were announced during previews for Twin Shadows and released after RTH. If that holds true here and the next large box is indeed an early time period then it's entirely plausible that they'll work within that time period.

I believe the rumors at the time were that the Smuggler and the Bantha were supposed to come out before RtH, but there was a production/shipment hiccup that switched the two waves around. That's supported by the fact that the Smuggler/Bantha product codes slot in between Twin Shadows and RtH.

The three packs just announced have product codes that slot them in directly after the Bespin wave.

Not sure if that actually means anything for speculation, but I wanted to bring it up since it felt pertinent.

FFG will release whatever they want and those that dont like it only need to not buy them. Simple. No one is pointing a gun to the head to anyone not willing to buy.

That's a bit harsh, I haven't yet seen anyone bothered by the pre-Yavin characters. People are simply wondering how they'll fit in the structure as we know it.

yeah. It's been a "hmm that's interesting. Let's see how that plays out." rather than a "omg I won't but it this is stupid" kind of thing.

You dont pay much atention then to some past comments in this forum (clue - wasnt me).

Releasing pre-yavin stuff but still in New Hope people seem to be ok with it but the Inquisitor is just a bit much for some... I imagine things from the PT will give an heart attack for many more.

I lost count of how many negative comments Ive read here about FFG releasing Clone Wars or pre-OT stuff (movie stuff - im not talking about the animated cartoon although both can fit in this) stuff for example...

Edit = Hey look... Just found one of them... https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/topic/129820-clone-wars-expansion/?hl= clone wars

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The rebels-style interdictor has just been announced for Armada, we have X-wing chock full of Rebels content, and now we have the Inquisitor.

I think it's only a matter of time until we get a Rebels expansion. Maybe it will be a boxed set with all the main characters from the show in it, rather than be a specific wave?

My feelings at the inevitability of more Rebels content in IA:

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I think it's only a matter of time until we get a Rebels expansion. Maybe it will be a boxed set with all the main characters from the show in it, rather than be a specific wave?

I agree that more Rebels (Edit: realized how important capitalizing that is) figures are inevitable but I think they'll have to stagger the releases of the crew of the ghost. Unless they thought up mega figure packs for the other factions and announced them all at once it would smack of special treatment for rebels.

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The next big box will probably come out around December - just like Hoth did... Rogue One is being released at the same time - I'm pretty sure the next big box will be Period 1 or 2 to tie in with Rogue One, and they're using the opportunity to release some extra figures in time for it...

I think it's only a matter of time until we get a Rebels expansion. Maybe it will be a boxed set with all the main characters from the show in it, rather than be a specific wave?

I agree that more Rebels (Edit: realized how important capitalizing that is) figures are inevitable but I think they'll have to stagger the releases of the crew of the ghost. Unless they thought up mega figure packs for the other factions and announced them all at once it would smack of special treatment for rebels.

And thats assuming theyre allies, not heroes themselves.

I wouldnt be surprised if this large box set could be a "stand alone" box set. You would still need the core for tiles/cards to compete at tournaments, but this could be large enough to run a full campaign without...??

~D

I think it's only a matter of time until we get a Rebels expansion. Maybe it will be a boxed set with all the main characters from the show in it, rather than be a specific wave?

I agree that more Rebels (Edit: realized how important capitalizing that is) figures are inevitable but I think they'll have to stagger the releases of the crew of the ghost. Unless they thought up mega figure packs for the other factions and announced them all at once it would smack of special treatment for rebels.
Well, it would "kind of" be special treatment in that two UNIQUE figures would be in the same expansion pack, but we have plenty of two-three figure packs already. Plus large/massive figure model packs. So I could see them selling them for a $20 price tag like ATST/Bantha. They could also put Kanan and Ezra and maybe even Kallus in the box set like they did Luke/Vader.

And thats assuming theyre allies, not heroes themselves.

I wouldnt be surprised if this large box set could be a "stand alone" box set. You would still need the core for tiles/cards to compete at tournaments, but this could be large enough to run a full campaign without...??

~D

Seriously doubt they would redo stormtroopers, ISB agents, or even rebel troopers for a Rebel themed box set. I can see maybe the mini-ATST thing (AT-DP), possibly Hondo, maybe those spider-like or cat-like monsters from the Aliens/Pitch Black episodes. But the majority of figures that would appear in a Rebels themed box would have to be heroes. Kanan, Hera, Sabine, Ezra, and Zeb... Chopper seems ally-ish. That would be my take. That said... it would be a very strange box. I like Rebels, and thy would play well in this game, but this type of box would change the formula for the game very drastically, in having the heroes be HEROES.

Zeb = Gaarkhan/Biv

Kanan = Diala

Sabine = Fenn/Mak/Loku

Hera = Gideon/Vera/Murne

Ezra = Jyn/Davith

Chopper = Saska/MHD-19

And I can see them doing a different kind of Trooper. Perhaps a melee version or the cadet/academy Trooper (make it a 2 figure). Plenty of creatures to derive from. Definitely get our Clone/Commando Troopers finally. Lots of Mercs to insert as well.

And thats just a pure Rebels themed. Depends on if theyre adding in more cast from A New Hope time period.

~D

For me seeing the Grand Iquisitor is exciting not because the Ghost Crew might come, and with the new season who knows what they will be like after the events of the temple, but it also opens the door for Ahsoka.

Fulcrum Lives!!!

And if you missed it Ahsoka held her own mostly against Vader.

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For me seeing the Grand Iquisitor is exciting not because the Ghost Crew might come, and with the new season who knows what they will be like after the events of the temple, but it also opens the door for Ahsoka.

Fulcrum Lives!!!

And if you missed it Ahsoka held her own mostly against Vader.

Ahhh! I haven't seen season 2!!!

It's because Twin Shadows doesn't have side missions, and I expect Besbin Gambit to have the same setup.

on't think Twin Shadows or Bespin have time periods?

But I agree that people are too hang up on time periods. Imperial Assault is about making your own stories in the Star Wars universe, not following a pre-made script. People who care about established events and timing of the Star Wars universe are certainly capable of applying their own fixed-timeline-restrictions when deciding which missions to include in a campaign, and people who don't, can also include anything they want.

Exactly. Unless they go full-prequel there is literally no time period when Obi-Wan could be available to help the rebels in the campaign. The entire time that the empire exists he is either watching over Luke on Tatooine, on-screen in A New Hope, or dead. Does that mean that we should never be able to have Obi-Wan in an IA campaign? Of course not!

Not necesserily. I find it plausible that during the almost two-decade period between the Clone Wars and New Hope, he might have helped a Rebel cell or two with this and that, while making sure none of the Imperials connect the dots about him being him (which is why I think having him wave that laser sword around doesn't make any narrative sense, not in IA and not even in the ANH cantina scene). He wouldn't even need to leave Tatooine to do that too, since apparently that planet has a lot of both Imp and Reb activity for being in the middle of nowhere. He's chummy with Bail Organa after all, to the point of Leia knowing about him and knowing to seek him out to help her and meet up with her adopted father. I doubt either she or Bail would consider that plan if they never heard from or about Kenobi for twenty years.

Also, I recall there was a rumour that Kenobi is supposed to show up on Rebels at some point, since apparently we need everyone to be connected with everyone else, in an "Anakin Skywalker built C-3PO" kind of way.

At some point he has to receive a blow to the head that makes him not only forget specifically R2-D2 and C-3PO but also the idea that he ever owned a droid.

It's because Twin Shadows doesn't have side missions, and I expect Besbin Gambit to have the same setup.

on't think Twin Shadows or Bespin have time periods?

But I agree that people are too hang up on time periods. Imperial Assault is about making your own stories in the Star Wars universe, not following a pre-made script. People who care about established events and timing of the Star Wars universe are certainly capable of applying their own fixed-timeline-restrictions when deciding which missions to include in a campaign, and people who don't, can also include anything they want.

Exactly. Unless they go full-prequel there is literally no time period when Obi-Wan could be available to help the rebels in the campaign. The entire time that the empire exists he is either watching over Luke on Tatooine, on-screen in A New Hope, or dead. Does that mean that we should never be able to have Obi-Wan in an IA campaign? Of course not!

Not necesserily. I find it plausible that during the almost two-decade period between the Clone Wars and New Hope, he might have helped a Rebel cell or two with this and that, while making sure none of the Imperials connect the dots about him being him (which is why I think having him wave that laser sword around doesn't make any narrative sense, not in IA and not even in the ANH cantina scene). He wouldn't even need to leave Tatooine to do that too, since apparently that planet has a lot of both Imp and Reb activity for being in the middle of nowhere. He's chummy with Bail Organa after all, to the point of Leia knowing about him and knowing to seek him out to help her and meet up with her adopted father. I doubt either she or Bail would consider that plan if they never heard from or about Kenobi for twenty years.

Also, I recall there was a rumour that Kenobi is supposed to show up on Rebels at some point, since apparently we need everyone to be connected with everyone else, in an "Anakin Skywalker built C-3PO" kind of way.

At some point he has to receive a blow to the head that makes him not only forget specifically R2-D2 and C-3PO but also the idea that he ever owned a droid.

It was sun stroke. It can be deadly in deserts here, imagine what it must be like to have two suns! This is also probably why he aged an additional 10 years between ROTS and ANH. ;)

It's because Twin Shadows doesn't have side missions, and I expect Besbin Gambit to have the same setup.

on't think Twin Shadows or Bespin have time periods?

But I agree that people are too hang up on time periods. Imperial Assault is about making your own stories in the Star Wars universe, not following a pre-made script. People who care about established events and timing of the Star Wars universe are certainly capable of applying their own fixed-timeline-restrictions when deciding which missions to include in a campaign, and people who don't, can also include anything they want.

Exactly. Unless they go full-prequel there is literally no time period when Obi-Wan could be available to help the rebels in the campaign. The entire time that the empire exists he is either watching over Luke on Tatooine, on-screen in A New Hope, or dead. Does that mean that we should never be able to have Obi-Wan in an IA campaign? Of course not!

Not necesserily. I find it plausible that during the almost two-decade period between the Clone Wars and New Hope, he might have helped a Rebel cell or two with this and that, while making sure none of the Imperials connect the dots about him being him (which is why I think having him wave that laser sword around doesn't make any narrative sense, not in IA and not even in the ANH cantina scene). He wouldn't even need to leave Tatooine to do that too, since apparently that planet has a lot of both Imp and Reb activity for being in the middle of nowhere. He's chummy with Bail Organa after all, to the point of Leia knowing about him and knowing to seek him out to help her and meet up with her adopted father. I doubt either she or Bail would consider that plan if they never heard from or about Kenobi for twenty years.

Also, I recall there was a rumour that Kenobi is supposed to show up on Rebels at some point, since apparently we need everyone to be connected with everyone else, in an "Anakin Skywalker built C-3PO" kind of way.

At some point he has to receive a blow to the head that makes him not only forget specifically R2-D2 and C-3PO but also the idea that he ever owned a droid.

To be fair other than Luke and a few others... most people treat droids like a talking toaster rather anything important. And Protocal Droids and Astromechs are common.

As for Kenobi's own droid for his Starfighter... I never took them as being "Owned". Just the droids that were assigned to them for their duties.

Re: Obi-Wan's appearance. Just look at pictures of Caucasians who live in the desert. It does look like they're more aged due to that.

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It's because Twin Shadows doesn't have side missions, and I expect Besbin Gambit to have the same setup.

on't think Twin Shadows or Bespin have time periods?

But I agree that people are too hang up on time periods. Imperial Assault is about making your own stories in the Star Wars universe, not following a pre-made script. People who care about established events and timing of the Star Wars universe are certainly capable of applying their own fixed-timeline-restrictions when deciding which missions to include in a campaign, and people who don't, can also include anything they want.

Exactly. Unless they go full-prequel there is literally no time period when Obi-Wan could be available to help the rebels in the campaign. The entire time that the empire exists he is either watching over Luke on Tatooine, on-screen in A New Hope, or dead. Does that mean that we should never be able to have Obi-Wan in an IA campaign? Of course not!

Not necesserily. I find it plausible that during the almost two-decade period between the Clone Wars and New Hope, he might have helped a Rebel cell or two with this and that, while making sure none of the Imperials connect the dots about him being him (which is why I think having him wave that laser sword around doesn't make any narrative sense, not in IA and not even in the ANH cantina scene). He wouldn't even need to leave Tatooine to do that too, since apparently that planet has a lot of both Imp and Reb activity for being in the middle of nowhere. He's chummy with Bail Organa after all, to the point of Leia knowing about him and knowing to seek him out to help her and meet up with her adopted father. I doubt either she or Bail would consider that plan if they never heard from or about Kenobi for twenty years.

Also, I recall there was a rumour that Kenobi is supposed to show up on Rebels at some point, since apparently we need everyone to be connected with everyone else, in an "Anakin Skywalker built C-3PO" kind of way.

At some point he has to receive a blow to the head that makes him not only forget specifically R2-D2 and C-3PO but also the idea that he ever owned a droid.

To be fair other than Luke and a few others... most people treat droids like a talking toaster rather anything important. And Protocal Droids and Astromechs are common.

As for Kenobi's own droid for his Starfighter... I never took them as being "Owned". Just the droids that were assigned to them for their duties.

Re: Obi-Wan's appearance. Just look at pictures of Caucasians who live in the desert. It does look like they're more aged due to that.

I think he'd remember those two, for one thing Vader built one of them, and for another they'd been through quite a lot together. Luke's reference to so much devotion in a droid was also referenced in a scene many years before that Obi Wan was in, after R2 fixes up that shiney Naboo shuttle from Wave X.

It's because Twin Shadows doesn't have side missions, and I expect Besbin Gambit to have the same setup.

on't think Twin Shadows or Bespin have time periods?

But I agree that people are too hang up on time periods. Imperial Assault is about making your own stories in the Star Wars universe, not following a pre-made script. People who care about established events and timing of the Star Wars universe are certainly capable of applying their own fixed-timeline-restrictions when deciding which missions to include in a campaign, and people who don't, can also include anything they want.

Exactly. Unless they go full-prequel there is literally no time period when Obi-Wan could be available to help the rebels in the campaign. The entire time that the empire exists he is either watching over Luke on Tatooine, on-screen in A New Hope, or dead. Does that mean that we should never be able to have Obi-Wan in an IA campaign? Of course not!

Not necesserily. I find it plausible that during the almost two-decade period between the Clone Wars and New Hope, he might have helped a Rebel cell or two with this and that, while making sure none of the Imperials connect the dots about him being him (which is why I think having him wave that laser sword around doesn't make any narrative sense, not in IA and not even in the ANH cantina scene). He wouldn't even need to leave Tatooine to do that too, since apparently that planet has a lot of both Imp and Reb activity for being in the middle of nowhere. He's chummy with Bail Organa after all, to the point of Leia knowing about him and knowing to seek him out to help her and meet up with her adopted father. I doubt either she or Bail would consider that plan if they never heard from or about Kenobi for twenty years.

Also, I recall there was a rumour that Kenobi is supposed to show up on Rebels at some point, since apparently we need everyone to be connected with everyone else, in an "Anakin Skywalker built C-3PO" kind of way.

At some point he has to receive a blow to the head that makes him not only forget specifically R2-D2 and C-3PO but also the idea that he ever owned a droid.

To be fair other than Luke and a few others... most people treat droids like a talking toaster rather anything important. And Protocal Droids and Astromechs are common.

As for Kenobi's own droid for his Starfighter... I never took them as being "Owned". Just the droids that were assigned to them for their duties.

Re: Obi-Wan's appearance. Just look at pictures of Caucasians who live in the desert. It does look like they're more aged due to that.

I think he'd remember those two, for one thing Vader built one of them, and for another they'd been through quite a lot together. Luke's reference to so much devotion in a droid was also referenced in a scene many years before that Obi Wan was in, after R2 fixes up that shiney Naboo shuttle from Wave X.

I'm not convinced Obi-Wan isn't just playing it off (i know when it was filmed, he had never met the two before, and that it was only due to the prequels that there is anything to discuss). His lines are not direct lies, and he isn't n the business of giving luke all the info. Think about how a Clinton would answer the question. "Not to my recollection..." Seems an awful lot like "I don't remember ever owning a droid before." Technically he didn't, and it depends greatly on your definition of the word 'owns.' Lots of loopholes there for a carefully crafted dodge. He remembers R2 just fine, but R2 knows enough to play along with the act. After all, he does know where to look for Obi-Wan (although Leia could have told him roughly where to start).

It's because Twin Shadows doesn't have side missions, and I expect Besbin Gambit to have the same setup.

on't think Twin Shadows or Bespin have time periods?

But I agree that people are too hang up on time periods. Imperial Assault is about making your own stories in the Star Wars universe, not following a pre-made script. People who care about established events and timing of the Star Wars universe are certainly capable of applying their own fixed-timeline-restrictions when deciding which missions to include in a campaign, and people who don't, can also include anything they want.

Exactly. Unless they go full-prequel there is literally no time period when Obi-Wan could be available to help the rebels in the campaign. The entire time that the empire exists he is either watching over Luke on Tatooine, on-screen in A New Hope, or dead. Does that mean that we should never be able to have Obi-Wan in an IA campaign? Of course not!

Not necesserily. I find it plausible that during the almost two-decade period between the Clone Wars and New Hope, he might have helped a Rebel cell or two with this and that, while making sure none of the Imperials connect the dots about him being him (which is why I think having him wave that laser sword around doesn't make any narrative sense, not in IA and not even in the ANH cantina scene). He wouldn't even need to leave Tatooine to do that too, since apparently that planet has a lot of both Imp and Reb activity for being in the middle of nowhere. He's chummy with Bail Organa after all, to the point of Leia knowing about him and knowing to seek him out to help her and meet up with her adopted father. I doubt either she or Bail would consider that plan if they never heard from or about Kenobi for twenty years.

Also, I recall there was a rumour that Kenobi is supposed to show up on Rebels at some point, since apparently we need everyone to be connected with everyone else, in an "Anakin Skywalker built C-3PO" kind of way.

At some point he has to receive a blow to the head that makes him not only forget specifically R2-D2 and C-3PO but also the idea that he ever owned a droid.

To be fair other than Luke and a few others... most people treat droids like a talking toaster rather anything important. And Protocal Droids and Astromechs are common.

As for Kenobi's own droid for his Starfighter... I never took them as being "Owned". Just the droids that were assigned to them for their duties.

Re: Obi-Wan's appearance. Just look at pictures of Caucasians who live in the desert. It does look like they're more aged due to that.

I think he'd remember those two, for one thing Vader built one of them, and for another they'd been through quite a lot together. Luke's reference to so much devotion in a droid was also referenced in a scene many years before that Obi Wan was in, after R2 fixes up that shiney Naboo shuttle from Wave X.

I'm not convinced Obi-Wan isn't just playing it off (i know when it was filmed, he had never met the two before, and that it was only due to the prequels that there is anything to discuss). His lines are not direct lies, and he isn't n the business of giving luke all the info. Think about how a Clinton would answer the question. "Not to my recollection..." Seems an awful lot like "I don't remember ever owning a droid before." Technically he didn't, and it depends greatly on your definition of the word 'owns.' Lots of loopholes there for a carefully crafted dodge. He remembers R2 just fine, but R2 knows enough to play along with the act. After all, he does know where to look for Obi-Wan (although Leia could have told him roughly where to start).

Yeah, that's my chosen head-retcon too, but it's still not perfect. R2 didn't really belong to him but had told Luke he did, Obi Wan could have played along with that and discussed it with R2 later. The fact that he chose to contradict R2's story in front of Luke suggests he was simply speaking his mind at the time.