IG-88A and Simultaneous Fire

By Rinehart, in X-Wing Rules Questions

Weird theoretical situation. IG-88A and IG-88B at PS8 both shoot at PS8 Wes. Aggressors shoot first. B shoots and does enough damage to kill Wes, but Wes stays on the board to get his simultaneous shot. A then shoots at Wes, because it's his only shot, and adds more damage cards to him. After Wes is removed from th board, which of the IGs use A's ability? Is it the IG players choice? Can they both recover a shield, they both did damage the destroys him?

I'd say that only the first aggressor that does enough damage to Wes can use A's ability. What's the correct interaction in this situation? I haven't seen anything like this in real life, but if I do, I'd like to know what the community thinks is correct.

Only one ship can be given 'credit' with a kill. That's the ship that did enough damage to destroy it. What A did was pump more damage into an already destroyed target.

Only one ship can be given 'credit' with a kill. That's the ship that did enough damage to destroy it. What A did was pump more damage into an already destroyed target.

Yup. B gets the regen, because B did the destruction. A just shot the zombie a bit, and the only effect of its doing so would have been to potentially draw the Blinded Pilot crit.

Wait B get's the shield as soon as he deals enough damage to destroy Wes right? so before Wes shoots, even though he's not removed yet he still counts as destroyed, right?

even though he's not removed yet he still counts as destroyed, right?

Yes, a ship is considered Destroyed it receives enough damage cards to equal its hull. So any action that triggers when a ship is destroyed would be as soon as it gets that last damage card.

even though he's not removed yet he still counts as destroyed, right?

Yes, a ship is considered Destroyed it receives enough damage cards to equal its hull. So any action that triggers when a ship is destroyed would be as soon as it gets that last damage card.

Sorry VanorDM, but the ship is not destroyed until it has had it's opportunity to attack.

The FAQ states:

If IG-88A destroys a ship at his pilot skill, he does not recover the shield until that ship has had an opportunity to attack with the Simultaneous Attack Rule.

The FAQ entry is because the Simultaneous Attack Rule states:

If a ship would be destroyed and it has the same pilot skill value as the active ship but has not had an opportunity to attack yet, it is not destroyed... After it has had its opportunity to attack, it is destroyed and removed from the play area.

Sorry VanorDM, but the ship is not destroyed until it has had it's opportunity to attack.

It's considered destroyed and will be removed from play as soon as it has its opportunity to attack, so the other IG shooting at it doesn't change it's status. Both ships can't claim to have destroyed it.

This does bring up an interesting question...

The old rules said a ship was destroyed immediately after it had damage cards equal to the hull IIRC, with the SAR being an exception to that. However the new rules don't say immediately.

In the case of IG88 I still feel that only one ship can get credit for killing the target, so the ship that attacked first gets the shield, the other one as thespaceinvader put it, was shooting a zombie.

The FAQ ruling means that the ship can't get a shield token until the destroyed ship is actually removed from play. I think that was so in the case of the SAR the ship firing back gets to shoot IG88 as he was at the start of that PS.

But is the change in wording intentional? We've seen plenty of cases where they have removed things from the rules but seem to still have them apply via FAQ's and others. Such as if damage is dealt one at a time or not.