ships across range 1 and range 2

By alien earth, in X-Wing Rules Questions

Hello everybody.

first of all please excuse me for bad grammar or typos: i'm italian :ph34r:

I would like to ask what if a ship is across range 1 and range 2: do the tactician triggers? can i shoot with TLT?

Have I to measure to the nearest corner?

Thank you!

Check out the FAQ, specifically the 'range in arc' section. I'll assume we have a ship where the closest point to point measurement is r1 out of arc, but the ship is in arc at range 2.

Firstly, we need to know if the ship doing the shooting is able to shoot out of its arc.

If it's not, then you take the measurement of range along the line of the firing arc, and that's the range of the attack AND the range in arc. If that's 2, the attack is range 2, and tactician can trigger. Autothrusters can't unless this measurement is range 3, or the ship is out of arc entirely. If the whole ship is in arc, it's just the closest point to closest point.

For a ship which CAN fire outside its arc (e.g. using TLT or another turret upgrade without the BTLA4 title, or using a primary weapon turret) then you measure the range of the attack from the closest point of the attacker to the closest point of the defender (i.e. the shortest possible range). This is the range of the attack. If this is r1, the TLT can't shoot. However, if this is r1, but the range in arc is 2, Tactician might be able to trigger as noted above, and autothrusters might be blocked as noted above.

In short: there are two measurements, the range in arc (closest point along the line of the firing arc) and the range out of arc. Ships which can't fire out of arc only use the former. Ships which can measure the range of their attack using the latter, but any abilities which reference arcs (mostly, tactician and autothrusters) use the former.

(Also worth noting that NONE of this applies to card abilities which just reference how close ships are together rather than attack range, such as Carnor Jax, Zertik Strom, Gemmer Sojan, Guri)

Put more simply:

If the closest point in arc is at range 1, Tactician will not trigger.

The game does not look further than the closest point you can hit.

Put more simply:

If the closest point in arc is at range 1, Tactician will not trigger.

The game does not look further than the closest point you can hit.

Except that it does look further than that, in exactly the cases I noted, when you're attacking an enemy that crosses the border of your arc, with a weapon that shoots out of arc, but an upgrade that cares about range in arc, which was the question in the first place.

Edited by thespaceinvader

more clear now.

i just look where i can shoot and measure it.

sorry for noobness ;)