FFG! WHY!?

By KCDodger, in X-Wing

Really?

Must we have another thread

People have the right to be disappointed or whatever about the preview and post about it just about as much as those who are excited about it.

Apparently your only allowed to post something here if you agree with everyone else and are only going to say positive things

I find it hard to believe grown men can act this way.

Childish Is what this is

Well, we are playing with toys going pew pew. :P

You're right though. We can all voice our opinion but one thing that must be remembered by all of us is that X-Wing is a popular game and seems to be getting more popular. With Star Wars movies coming out regularly now, it is only logical that FFG will use the material provided and make more expansions that target newer players as well. I think one thing that is being forgotten here is that FFG doesn't need to tailor every expansion to current players. Anyone that didn't think there would be a new Falcon with Rey as a pilot was kidding themselves. The way Force Awakens ended, the Falcon is hers now and Chewie is her copilot, or at least that's how I am seeing it until Episode 8 says otherwise.

It's true we are playing with toy ships making laser beam sounds lol.

Still though I find it funny how a grown man or women can be so bothered by others voicing their opinions about a game.

I also find it funny that like the OP can criticize people for voicing their lack of approval over the new expansion.

He's basically doing the very same thing he is mocking.

So basically unless you are a sheep and follow what the majority thinks then you have no place to voice your opinions

I'll admit I don't care for it for reasons I stated in other threads, but meh, it's a game with plastic ships.

When I saw it I was kind of glad I saw others displeased with it as I knew that I wasn't the only one

But do I care that others like it?

No

Did others start a thread complaining about those who did?

Not that I've seen

Unlike this thread or the I hate whinners thread they are pretty childish imo.

People need to grow up, and sad as it is, a 30-40 year old man getting upset or being bother by what someone else thinks in regards to plastic space ships is pretty sad

Maybe they should get out more, and get a life

I don't disagree with your post in its entirety and I think people have the right to complain about things they don't like. But.......there is always a but.

Time to state my feelings about this expansion. If FFG came to me and asked me what rebel box set they should put out next it would definitely not be this one. Am I disappointed that FFG didn't make the expansion I wanted? Hell yeah, I am. However, I realize I'm not their only customer. They have a world of potential customers to woo. Episode VIII is approaching and apparently FFG thinks there is an audience for product from the latest movie. Perhaps I'm not the target for this release or maybe there is a larger audience for this product than there is for what I want. Whatever their reason, FFG thought this was the next rebel box they should release. Full disclosure. I'm still exited about HotR and can't wait to get my hands on it, even if I wish it were something else.

Now to the point. Despite the fact that I'm disappointed in FFG's choice, I realize they have a business to run and customers/potential customers other than myself to consider. I personally wouldn't start a thread complaining about the new expansion because in my mind it would seem self centered. Maybe you care about what I want. Maybe you don't. While I'm sure FFG wants my business, I understand they have many people to please other than me. This is all just my opinion and my personal reasons for not starting threads complaining about the next release. I understand the reasons for complaints about gameplay and/or balance even when I don't agree with them. I'm not saying people don't have the right to complain or shouldn't create complaint threads. I'm just giving one possible point of view on why some types of threads might receive some negative responses. Yes, I realize people don't have to read the threads. Just trying to explain why they might receive a less than enthusiastic reception from some.

Edited by Starbane

Really?

Must we have another thread

People have the right to be disappointed or whatever about the preview and post about it just about as much as those who are excited about it.

Apparently your only allowed to post something here if you agree with everyone else and are only going to say positive things

I find it hard to believe grown men can act this way.

Childish Is what this is

You know what else is childish? Posturing yourself above others by calling their actions childish. People are allowed to have their own opinions, of course. Just as I am allowed to have my opinion that's different from yours, in that grown men crying about fresh new products in their miniature game is just as bad.

You know, if you want to go by the "What I believe grown men should do because I believe there are rules for grown men."

Grown (wo)men are allowed to do whatever the hell they want, no longer constrained by preconceptions. If not, what the hell is the use of being an adult?

Wow, why not just resurrect your PSA thread if you so badly need attention?

You're a bit late to the "I should start a thread - ironically! - complaining but not complaining!" by a few days.

Edited by Bojanglez

People have a right to be excited about this expansion as much as people have a right to be disappointed. There is no gun to anyone's head to buy or not buy it or any other X-Wing expansion. I'm not bothering to buy Imperial Veterans, so what ? Should that affect or matter to anyone that I don't like the expansion, nope not one little bit.

Edited by Toqtamish

People have a right to be excited about this expansion as much as people have a right to be disappointed. There is no gun to anyone's head to buy or not buy it or any other X-Wing expansion. I'm not bothering to buy Imperial Veterans, so what ? Should that affect or matter to anyone that I don't like the expansion, nope not one little bit.

I have a kitten it's life depends on you buying imp vets, you don't hate kittens do you?

There is no reason why an argument or stance should be exempt from critism.

An argument that can't withstand critism isn't a valid argument.

Yeah I agree with the OP, intentional draws are an outrage and an anathema to Xwing.

I have a kitten it's life depends on you buying imp vets, you don't hate kittens do you?

Nope.

They're lovely with a nice bhoona sauce.

Cheers

Baaa

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Where's the all Imperial version?

Really?

Must we have another thread

People have the right to be disappointed or whatever about the preview and post about it just about as much as those who are excited about it.

Apparently your only allowed to post something here if you agree with everyone else and are only going to say positive things

I find it hard to believe grown men can act this way.

Childish Is what this is

You know what else is childish? Posturing yourself above others by calling their actions childish. People are allowed to have their own opinions, of course. Just as I am allowed to have my opinion that's different from yours, in that grown men crying about fresh new products in their miniature game is just as bad.

You know, if you want to go by the "What I believe grown men should do because I believe there are rules for grown men."

Grown (wo)men are allowed to do whatever the hell they want, no longer constrained by preconceptions. If not, what the hell is the use of being an adult?

I'm not posturing myself above anyone

But isn't that what your doing buy mocking those who are unhappy about the preview?

Your post remind me of something a 6 year old would do on the playground.

If you want to post something, why not be a little more mature about it.

This thread is no better than the one calling people whinners imo

Childish

I'm just calling it as how I see it

If you want to get defensive about that, ain't nothing I can do about that.

Maybe try and have a intelligent conversation about it instead of belittling those who dont follow the crowd

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Where's the all Imperial version?

Been thinking about doing that, for all three gloriouse factions Brah...

But today I made Sabine...lil miss badass in the game and she is cute too!

... and dammit dat is all the excuse I need to Emote an ass up!!

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A positive use of them negative waves.

The fight continues.

Cheers

Baaa

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Really?

Must we have another thread

People have the right to be disappointed or whatever about the preview and post about it just about as much as those who are excited about it.

Apparently your only allowed to post something here if you agree with everyone else and are only going to say positive things

I find it hard to believe grown men can act this way.

Childish Is what this is

You know what else is childish? Posturing yourself above others by calling their actions childish. People are allowed to have their own opinions, of course. Just as I am allowed to have my opinion that's different from yours, in that grown men crying about fresh new products in their miniature game is just as bad.

You know, if you want to go by the "What I believe grown men should do because I believe there are rules for grown men."

Grown (wo)men are allowed to do whatever the hell they want, no longer constrained by preconceptions. If not, what the hell is the use of being an adult?

I'm not posturing myself above anyone

But isn't that what your doing buy mocking those who are unhappy about the preview?

Your post remind me of something a 6 year old would do on the playground.

If you want to post something, why not be a little more mature about it.

This thread is no better than the one calling people whinners imo

Childish

I'm just calling it as how I see it

If you want to get defensive about that, ain't nothing I can do about that.

Maybe try and have a intelligent conversation about it instead of belittling those who dont follow the crowd

But you are doing the same thing you accuse him of. You cannot have it both ways.

A positive use of them negative waves.

The fight continues.

Cheers

Baaa

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Cheers

Baaa

Now there is a good idea

Instead of having 15 range rulers, or 6 coins, why not just have a ship with Alt paint job

That alone would be a cool prize and see the light of day more than a coin

This.... Green squad a-wings, Grey squadron Y-wings, more scum options, Royal Guard ties with the extra wings on them...

Edited by FlyingAnchors

Philosophy according to the sheep -

Saying something once, means you've said it. Saying something twice is repeating yourself. Saying it more than that becomes white noise.

Life is too obtuse and unpredictable to take it too seriously, one day you wake up, the next you don't. So make sure this doesn't happen to you -

Cheers

Baaa

well on a lighter note we shouldnt see as many "Poe repaints" on Facebook....

Well, in a few months (no correlation to HotR release at all, no sir, not at all) my Poe repaint will be spot on to what FFG is releasing, lol. One will be hard pressed to tell the difference between FFG's Poe and my Poe (which many will see is one and the same, lol).

And if you think that's impressive, wait'll you guys see my Falcon mod. I'll be damned if FFG didn't copy the idea I had in my head for it and put it into a fancy new box with my Poe repaint. Man I'm good. :P

Really?

Must we have another thread

People have the right to be disappointed or whatever about the preview and post about it just about as much as those who are excited about it.

Apparently your only allowed to post something here if you agree with everyone else and are only going to say positive things

I find it hard to believe grown men can act this way.

Childish Is what this is

You know what else is childish? Posturing yourself above others by calling their actions childish. People are allowed to have their own opinions, of course. Just as I am allowed to have my opinion that's different from yours, in that grown men crying about fresh new products in their miniature game is just as bad.

You know, if you want to go by the "What I believe grown men should do because I believe there are rules for grown men."

Grown (wo)men are allowed to do whatever the hell they want, no longer constrained by preconceptions. If not, what the hell is the use of being an adult?

I'm not posturing myself above anyone

But isn't that what your doing buy mocking those who are unhappy about the preview?

Your post remind me of something a 6 year old would do on the playground.

If you want to post something, why not be a little more mature about it.

This thread is no better than the one calling people whinners imo

Childish

I'm just calling it as how I see it

If you want to get defensive about that, ain't nothing I can do about that.

Maybe try and have a intelligent conversation about it instead of belittling those who dont follow the crowd

But you are doing the same thing you accuse him of. You cannot have it both ways.

I'm just calling it how I see it

I'm not belittling anyone

I'm blunt. If I see bull ****, I don't try cover it up, and say it smells like roses, I call it bull ****

And just as I said earlier

Why can't people post a discussion to complain about their disappointment just as much as the 15 threads about how excited people are

Then you get others who make threads insulting those few who posted their concerns and why they are not happy.

They don't have to like it, but posts like this are childish.

Just calling the kettle black

Edited by Krynn007

I don't blame people for complaining about being sold ships we already own for new upgrades. I don't mind buying another Falcon, but I'm not everyone. It's similar to why people complained about the TIE Advanced fix being included with the Raider.

And I don't blame people for complaining about other ships not getting fixes. I think the game is fairly balanced overall even with some ships lagging behind, but I can understand why T-65 and non-Corran E-Wing fans feel like they're being neglected.

Complaints about the source material on the other hand are hilarious. Dash Rendar's a cheap knockoff Han Solo with a stupid Rob Liefeld costume from an awful novel and a middling video game. IG-88's four variants are detailed in one of the most infamously bad EU stories. Even if you somehow think the Force Awakens is worse than Kevin J Anderson-penned garbage, let's not whine about cool new stuff because it comes from a story you don't like, especially when said story is the most popular Star Wars thing in the past decade.

Edited by WingedSpider

People have a right to be excited about this expansion as much as people have a right to be disappointed. There is no gun to anyone's head to buy or not buy it or any other X-Wing expansion. I'm not bothering to buy Imperial Veterans, so what ? Should that affect or matter to anyone that I don't like the expansion, nope not one little bit.

This! We can be happy about new things, it's really not so hard.

People have a right to be excited about this expansion as much as people have a right to be disappointed. There is no gun to anyone's head to buy or not buy it or any other X-Wing expansion. I'm not bothering to buy Imperial Veterans, so what ? Should that affect or matter to anyone that I don't like the expansion, nope not one little bit.

This! We can be happy about new things, it's really not so hard.

We can be happy about new things just as much as the next person who is not happy.

We have more threads where people are celebrating vs complaining, so I see no need of making threads just to insult, or belittling those few who express their concerns

People have a right to be excited about this expansion as much as people have a right to be disappointed. There is no gun to anyone's head to buy or not buy it or any other X-Wing expansion. I'm not bothering to buy Imperial Veterans, so what ? Should that affect or matter to anyone that I don't like the expansion, nope not one little bit.

This! We can be happy about new things, it's really not so hard.
You're right

We can be happy about new things just as much as the next person who is not happy.

We have more threads where people are celebrating vs complaining, so I see no need of making threads just to insult, or belittling those few who express their concerns

You're right. If I just kept quiet and let bitterness run rampant without trying to do SOMETHING to counter the incessant whining, things would be so much better.

There's an emotion Star Wars fans can feel besides bitterness, but it seems to be the easiest one to hold onto.

You're right. If I just kept quiet and let bitterness run rampant without trying to do SOMETHING to counter the incessant whining, things would be so much better.

There's an emotion Star Wars fans can feel besides bitterness, but it seems to be the easiest one to hold onto.

Making this thread isn't going to change anyone's mind, especially with your mocking tone, and we don't really need more negativity here.

You're right. If I just kept quiet and let bitterness run rampant without trying to do SOMETHING to counter the incessant whining, things would be so much better.

You're not helping with the incessant whining by posting another thread of whining, whether it's sarcastic whining about the release or whining about people whining about the release.

You're right. If I just kept quiet and let bitterness run rampant without trying to do SOMETHING to counter the incessant whining, things would be so much better.

As stated before, as soon as the forums on CaptainLackwit.com are up, you get to be a cop. And despite your noble protestations, starting this thread did nothing but stroke your own ego. No one is going to come away from this thinking "Wow, Captain Lackwit REALLY showed me the error of my ways!"

If you want to help out, continue to make positive posts about the stuff you love and don't respond to the "incessant whining" and rampant bitterness. It just ratchets things up and doesn't help, so let those threads die out and contribute to the positive discussions that are critically and constructive additions to the narratives of subjects related to the game.

Don't be self-important or self-indulgent or delusional enough to think anything you do here will really impact the thought process of anyone else on these forums and please don't try and sell us on the idea you're the Dayman. You're neither a master of karate, nor friendship for everyone.

That all said - as I do love a lively thread, a genuine thank you for starting another one where we can all jump in and kick you in the nuts, much appreciated :)

Edited by Bojanglez