For example the bomber command center. If a bomber is at distance 1-5 of two of them could it reroll a die again or could it reroll 2 dice (firepray, b-wings, etc.)?

Yes.

Thank you

I am confused, the question was, "is A or B correct?" The answer "yes"

I am confused, the question was, "is A or B correct?" The answer "yes"

He was asking if he could re-roll the same die twice or roll two separate bomber dice with two separate bomber command cards.

They are 2 seperate "While" abilities so they go on the stack of triggers.

I will admit, I dislike when people introduce terms from other systems to describe what's going on. Eurgh. Stack.

The answer, as I see it, is that Fleet Support is the first time that we have multiple copies of the same effect to be able to affect the one dice role.

We have no precedent in order to handle this .

I would agree with people, that yes , you should be able to either Reroll multiple dice, or reroll the one die multiple times, if you have multiple overlapping Bomber Command effects...

But without an FAQ that states the intent of it from FFG, we're guessing.

I personally believe the notion that you could reroll multiple times is incorrect.

I think this because of the use of "while" in the wording. Which I think, similar to how it's used regarding engagement, represents a "binary" relationship. Meaning it's Either in range of BCC or Not there is no stacking

Now I could be completely wrong but that's how I see the wording at this time (and I am also confident that it will switched to via faq, or at least stop you from rerolling the SAME dice multiple times)

The only problem with that, is if its banned from that, then you're stopping people from Using Vader and then Ordnance Experts and then a Concentrate Fire token to reroll the one Dice multiple times.

Which, you can totally do.

Its just wether you are allowed to have one "Bomber Command" Reroll, or not... Because the fact that they all share the "While" Trigger doesn't matter... That already works.

Its just wether Bomber Commands duplicate will fall under the "and not again this trigger." or not...

::shrug:L

Like I said, don't know.

The only problem with that, is if its banned from that, then you're stopping people from Using Vader and then Ordnance Experts and then a Concentrate Fire token to reroll the one Dice multiple times.

Which, you can totally do.

Its just wether you are allowed to have one "Bomber Command" Reroll, or not... Because the fact that they all share the "While" Trigger doesn't matter... That already works.

Its just wether Bomber Commands duplicate will fall under the "and not again this trigger." or not...

::shrug:L

Like I said, don't know.

The only problem with that, is if its banned from that, then you're stopping people from Using Vader and then Ordnance Experts and then a Concentrate Fire token to reroll the one Dice multiple times.

Which, you can totally do.

Its just wether you are allowed to have one "Bomber Command" Reroll, or not... Because the fact that they all share the "While" Trigger doesn't matter... That already works.

Its just wether Bomber Commands duplicate will fall under the "and not again this trigger." or not...

::shrug:L

Like I said, don't know.

well no because Vader, OE, and leading shots are SEPARATE effects. BCC is 1 effect and think it doesn't stack itself. You could for example have bcc and the new rebel chick (toryen?) To reroll 2 dice or the same die twice as they are Separate effects. Basically i think regardless of the # of cards the effect only happens once

Okay, that's what I thought you meant, but it didn't parse that way

So Yes, I agree - that is entirely what we're going to need Clarification on...

So at the moment Farlander's rerolled and the reroll from a bomber command centre can stack. Similar to Vader and ordnance experts. But we are not sure about multi bomber command centres.

So at the moment Farlander's rerolled and the reroll from a bomber command centre can stack. Similar to Vader and ordnance experts. But we are not sure about multi bomber command centres.

That's the crux of it.

I don't think there's any ambiguity at all here.

The concurrent "while" is irrelevant because:

A “while” effect can be resolved during the specified event and cannot occur again during that instance of the event.

Each separate BCC produces a separate while effect, each triggered simultaneously.

If two or more of a player’s effects have the same timing, that player can resolve those effects in any order.

As far as multiple card effects with the same name stacking, as far as I can tell there is no reason to think they shouldn't. There is no indication in the rules that they shouldn't. We even have a precedent with the faceup damage card effects, which have been specifically clarified to stack if you have multiple of the same name.

Totally with you, Ard.

Just want it in black and smudge from FFG so people stop arguing with me

I am confused, the question was, "is A or B correct?" The answer "yes"

The question was not

if A:
    return A

elif B:
    return B

The question was

if (A or B):
    return True

(A or B) == True, therefore I said "yes."

Wow. Holy crap, I just realized I have read the text of BCC wrong this whole time. For some reason, I thought it was contingent on the BCC's ship's squadron activation only.

Nope, its a Global, Passive Benefit.

Nope, its a Global, Passive Benefit.

I don't see why multiples of Bomber Command wouldn't each be treated as their own effect. Each is being spawned by it's own separate ship.

I. . .think it would be two separate effects, and therefore allow two re-rolls. Each one triggers from "While attacking. . .", and so would trigger separately. Just like you can use a single Nav token to trigger both Ozzel and Nav Teams. The only upgrade I can think of that can be taken in multiples is Expanded Hangars, which definitely counts as separate.

Based of the way that the Effect and Timing rule reads on While effects I would say that each effect is seperate. You have to check the timing of each card and you get to decide in what order they resolve. So unless FFG tells us otherwise I do t see why it would not.

I. . .think it would be two separate effects, and therefore allow two re-rolls. Each one triggers from "While attacking. . .", and so would trigger separately. Just like you can use a single Nav token to trigger both Ozzel and Nav Teams. The only upgrade I can think of that can be taken in multiples is Expanded Hangars, which definitely counts as separate.

Ugh, why do I post after eleven o'clock?

You are, of course, correct. So I think that makes it into no current effects can duplicate the way BCC can duplicate.

I have been trying to interpret it myself and find the wording too absolute. It simply says it may reroll 1 die. So no matter what source the squadron recieves the reroll from, it may reroll 1 die. No more.

Now I agree that that would be a too strickt interpretation, I do agree that you could reroll a dice for each BCC in range, in combination of other abilities and rerolling rerolls.

It is worth 8 points, so you may expect a lot from it.