I'm curious how the community will go on this one.

With HotR, we'll have two options for Poe. Either run him at natively PS8, or natively PS9. However, that 1-point PS bump comes at a 2-point premium. That seems rather steep.

I feel like the main crux of the matter is going to be how badly you want to have that PS9 and give him a pilot talent. You can already have Poe at PS10 for 32 points, but then he doesn't have room for other EPTs. We could also put him at PS9 with Adaptability for 31 points, but again that locks him out of any other pilot talents.

Personally, I can't envision too many situations where I'd want that extra point of pilot skill more than I'd want those extra two points. Even Adaptability for zero points is useless on him, as you could get the PS8 version with VI for a point cheaper and the same PS10 pilot skill.

Anyone disagree? Is there anything I'm overlooking here?

I haven't really played with Poe yet, but I still want to call PS 8 Poe the "Slow Poe".

It is basically there so he can have PTL and the black one title and take away a couple target locks from him or his buddies after the majority of ships have gone.

BB-8, black one title, PTL, Autothrusters ps9 poe may be a thing, who knows. Personally, I doubt it but you never know.

We also don't know what all the rest of those cards do, one of them could have some massive ramification that we dont even know about

Will you run Poe at PS8 or PS9?

Yes.

I haven't really played with Poe yet, but I still want to call PS 8 Poe the "Slow Poe".

Or "Sloe" ?

Then PS 9 is "Foe"

neither

I will run torpedoes into his fragile little ship and watch him burn either way

imho, PS 9 Poe is stepping a little too close to Mr Horn. PS 8 Poe is at a very nice price range

I think PS9 Poe will be better for those lists where i had all the points i needed, but Poe HAD TO HAVE VI otherwise he'd get curbstomped by the Imperial meta, but i really really wanted better offensive ability too but WG sucks. At PS9 i can worry less about PS and worry more about getting Predator or somethin' on that son of a gun and let him do work. Cause as it is, if you wanted Poe to be reliable on offensive you either had to have WG, or someone like Dutch or Garven or someone supporting him to allow him more actions, and that on it's own means shelling out more points. If all i have to do is pay 2 more points(which you already had to pay to get WG on PS8 Poe) to not have to worry about VI or squad support, then i think i'd gladly do that. PS9 Poe is more self-sufficient than PS8 Poe. But man, does his cost get up there really quick. So i dunno. I'll use both, probably.

I personally wish PS9 Poe would only have been 32 points, but i guess personally i see that extra point as being the additional cost you have to pay to not have to run VI.

I think PS8 Poe will still see more play, though.

Neither terrorists don't fly defenders.

To be honest, I'll stick to PS 8 at the moment - I run Nathan Eid's list as my tourney list, and Poe can't cost any more.

PTL sounds great, but the greens on an X-Wing are not fantastic. Maybe if I ran him with R2 astromech, but I still want him with R5-P9 or R2-D2

Neither terrorists don't fly defenders.

new T-beam Defenders love this 2 agility, small base terrorist though

I don't really click with Regen Poe, so I'm very excited to run him at PS9 with PtL/BB-8 shenanigans. Autothrusters rounds him out to an even 40, and I feel he will certainly pull his weight. Tack on Black One if you're feeling fancy!

PS9

having tried bb-8 PTL Poe...eh

after you've tried ASty with his white t-rolls letting him 180 and then continue bb-8ing on the very next turn, Poe just feels way too clunky

It is basically there so he can have PTL and the black one title and take away a couple target locks from him or his buddies after the majority of ships have gone.

BB-8, black one title, PTL, Autothrusters ps9 poe may be a thing, who knows. Personally, I doubt it but you never know.

We also don't know what all the rest of those cards do, one of them could have some massive ramification that we dont even know about

It's a bit awkward really. The BB-8 build they seem to be pushing with the title encourages formation flying to an extent, while having BB-8 and the higher PS encourage arc dodging and discourage formation flying.

The addition of that Tech Upgrade that from speculation on what's visible seems to allow taking an action before receiving stress from red maneuvers on top of the other upgrades contributes to the arc dodger ability as well, letting Poe Talon and K while still using his ability. The real limitation to PTL though is the T-70's limited greens. Hm. I feel like PS8 and 9 Poe are going to be able to fill different rolls, really. We'll see how things go. I'm just sad my movie still alt art won't be useable with PS9 Poe...

With an additional EPT I would take Push the limits and BB-8 that sounds strong to me.

So 2 points are hard for just one more pilot skill point but if you can get your squad down to 98 points or something like that, PS9 should be enough

The current PS 8 has a great power built in and putting VI (or adaptability) on him works out fine. I honestly don't like PTL on the T-70s. If I had the spare points, it would be nice to have it as an option.

PTL doesn't solve the problem that the PS8 Poe (with a non-BB8 astromech) has; getting blocked and left with no actions. I still see myself running the PS8 Poe with VI after the PS9 version comes out.

I think how he's built is the kicker for me. Poe at PS 8 can get R5P9, Adaptability and IA for a very reasonable 34 points. A fully outfitted PS 9 Poe (PTL, BB-8, Black One & Autothrusters) is going to be a ton of fun but very dear.

I know how to make PS 8 Poe work. We'll have to wait and see about Black One.

Poe-9 becomes a lot more interesting if everyone's been misreading this as a "6" when it's maybe really an "8".

Poe-9 becomes a lot more interesting if everyone's been misreading this as a "6" when it's maybe really an "8".

Looks like a 5 to me.

Anyway.

Maybe I sound spiteful but I'm always gonna run Poe at PS9- because I can't accept Rey being better.

PS9 with Adaptability so I can run him at PS8 for more points.

Seriously though, PS8, most likely. PS9 version is PS8+Autothrusters for points already.

I like the idea of PS9 Poe with Crackshot, Cool Hand, Adrenaline Rush. He can function a bit more freely, and with Cool Hand or Adrenaline Rush he can troll/kturn when needed. Any of those non-action EPTs. Toss Wingman on him, now with Black One Title he can get rid of TL and Stress from squad mates.

PS 7

PS9.

Because it's Poe "One Hell Of A Pilot" Dameron.

PS 7

AKA really sloe Poe.