A lot of people who play Armada (and by "a lot" I mean far more than I would have guessed) seem to be happy with a slow release schedule for new content. They cite that their wallets are grateful for having less to buy. Some have also stated that FFG likely can only produce so much product in a given year, and with multiple miniatures games out now, they might not have the production means to make more than 2 expansions per year for Armada.

I feel differently however, considering that the game is so new, and has such a limited selection, it would be better if Armada's production were scaled up to meet or exceed X-Wing's rate of new product, (one or two 4-ship waves per year, plus aces packs in between). And then, if production is an issue, perhaps scale back on other games that already have a ton of product, like X-Wing or perhaps even Imperial Assault.

How do you guys feel? If you only got one wave per year for X-Wing, and lets say, for the sake of argument, it was a smaller-than-normal wave.... (Say, 1 Rebel, 1 Imperial, and 1 Scum). Would you be ok with that if it meant they could catch other games up?

if it meant they could catch other games up?

No I'm selfish and don't play Armada. Full speed ahead on XWing production!

Early waves weren't so bad, mostly small base ships, then the occasional large base. Then it got stupid. This last wave only had one 'normal' priced small base ship. Wave 7 had a to of small ships but introduced two new subfactions as well, almost doubling the amount of ships in the wave. Without the TFA releases, tho, that wave would have also had only one 'normal' priced small base ship again. Wave 6 as well, just the lowly Scyk was the lone 'normal' small ship you expansion. Wave 5 was two large bases, one of which was 40 bucks! Now there's 4 huge ships and soon to be 4 (or 5 if you count Heroes) boxed sets of small ships outside of the two different core sets!

Not to mention playmats, fancy dials and colored bases and pegs.

Yeah, perhaps if plans had limited he total number of expansions there would be a wider customer base, I don't know. It's been slow but steady that I've caught up with the various waves, but it's still gonna be sometime before I commit to more huge ships. Wave 8 is particular pricey, and has two announced 'aces' on top of that.

AND NO GUNBOAT.

And to clarify, even if you don't play anything else, do you STILL think X-Wing should keep pushing out approx. 8+ expansions per year? At what point do you slow down?

I think X-Wing is moving way too fast. I started the game only weeks ago, and the sheer amount of stuff is absolutely daunting. Since I started, they announced four (!) new ships (Imperial Aces and Heroes of the Resistance). If the game moves too quickly, it will become extremely difficult for new players to get in. Armada is (yet) much more forgiving.

With all the new movies, TV shows and comics/books- I guess FFG could keep the flow of 8 expansions per year but it does seem like they could slow down a bit.

I haven't bought any Wave 8. I'm still flying my Wave 7 toys because they still seem "new" to me.

I wouldn't mind only 3 ships per year. (As long as we get the Wookiee AntiSlaver and Jabba's Yacht soon) We have so much to choose from now and I figure that FFG can still pump out plenty of sweet accessories each year to satisfy eager buyers/collectors.

Fewer releases is something that I would be fine with.

2 Waves + misc releases a year is just fine for me.

I would love a release of ships on May 4th and Nov 5th. Which in my world is 6 ships 3 in the beginning and 3 at the end with each first Monday of a new month having a news story. You could do an epic ships in Nov or special box sets whatever.

Idk but if there is consist news and a release date each year on the same date that would make me a happier person.

I think X-Wing is moving way too fast. I started the game only weeks ago, and the sheer amount of stuff is absolutely daunting. Since I started, they announced four (!) new ships (Imperial Aces and Heroes of the Resistance). If the game moves too quickly, it will become extremely difficult for new players to get in. Armada is (yet) much more forgiving.

Pfft go look at attack wing then come back and apologise, we'll wait.

I would love it. This game has a bad case of "Cult of the New." Fewer releases would allow us to dig deeper into individual ships, pilots, abilities, and combos, maybe flattening out the meta shifts that happen every wave. It may be worse for FFG's sales, but it would be better for the game.

That being said, 1 release would be a bit slow, so perhaps 1 "Wave" and one bonus box (a Veterans/Aces/Heroes type release or Epic) would be fine.

I think X-Wing is moving way too fast. I started the game only weeks ago, and the sheer amount of stuff is absolutely daunting. Since I started, they announced four (!) new ships (Imperial Aces and Heroes of the Resistance). If the game moves too quickly, it will become extremely difficult for new players to get in. Armada is (yet) much more forgiving.

Pfft go look at attack wing then come back and apologise, we'll wait.

Just because there's someone even worse doesn't alleviate the problem. ^^

I think X-Wing is moving way too fast. I started the game only weeks ago, and the sheer amount of stuff is absolutely daunting. Since I started, they announced four (!) new ships (Imperial Aces and Heroes of the Resistance). If the game moves too quickly, it will become extremely difficult for new players to get in. Armada is (yet) much more forgiving.

Well yeah, the game has been out for just shy of 4 years now. That starting a week ago and trying to catch up is daunting isn't exactly a surprise, regardless of how fast releases continue to come. It's the nature of any 'hobby type' game like this, whether it's miniatures or cards or whatever else. We've actually gone quite a while at this point(Wave 8 was announced at GenCon right? So nearly 9 months) without a new wave announcement, just 'deluxe', to borrow the term from their LCGs, type expansions.

Too many unreleased ships. Keep them coming

You guys are funny. 3 ships a year? You think this game is gona be in production 10 years from now with new content coming out? Nope.

Let's get ships while we can

Too many unreleased ships. Keep them coming

You guys are funny. 3 ships a year? You think this game is gona be in production 10 years from now with new content coming out? Nope.

Let's get ships while we can

I would rather see something I want and save my money to buy it, then to have money and wait for a wanted product because I will find other products to spend my money on.

They better sell when it is hot. Most miniature games only have about a ten year sell life.

You don't need to buy every ship, you know... for me the more the merrier (since I will buy only those I find interesting).

I think FFG are doing just fine.

There are still many ships from Legends that we, old Star Wars geeks, want badly (like the Gunboat!). Better release them sooner, because the Disney products (from new films, tv shows, toys, etc.) will add plenty of options in the next years.

I think X-Wing is moving way too fast. I started the game only weeks ago, and the sheer amount of stuff is absolutely daunting. Since I started, they announced four (!) new ships (Imperial Aces and Heroes of the Resistance). If the game moves too quickly, it will become extremely difficult for new players to get in. Armada is (yet) much more forgiving.

Pfft go look at attack wing then come back and apologise, we'll wait.

Just because there's someone even worse doesn't alleviate the problem. ^^

Attack wing started same time as x-wing we just got wave 8 they are on 23, by comparison ffg's release is sedate.

Or look at games workshop they release new stuff weekly.

Ffg does two waves a year six months apart with the odd release in between.

Really it's quite easy to get into now, when I started there were shortages and much less choice.

I think more stuff is never a bad thing so long as it's all of the same quality we expect. Though personally I'd rather they made Aces and Veterans packs for all the old ships instead of pulling more EU stuff and Sequel Trilogy ''''redesigns''''

OT content:

T-65, TIE Fighter, Advanced, Y-wing, A-Wing, Interceptor, Falcon, Slave One, B-wing, Bomber, Space Cow---that's he first three waves minus the HWK.

Then we had both Aces sets. And the Rebel Huge sets.

The next 5 waves we got a few more 'canon' releases, the Outrider, Hounds Tooth, Gozanti, TAP, Ghost and Attack 'shuttle' and two more 'aces' as well as Most wanted and he Y again. I believe the Defender and Z-95 are canon now too. Thanks to TCW and Rebels as well as Special Edition and the Prequels we got all these as official SW ships in the Disney canon. HWKs are canon too!

Then there's the other thangs. E-wing, TIE Phantom, Scyk, Starviper, the other Bounty Hunter ships, K-fighter, K-wing, Punisher, Decimater (may be canon too). Raider, a totally new ship made by FFG!!!!

And the TFA releases, also including one of those new aces sets. New movies!!! More ships! Sorta.

I don't know how many of the releases outside the first 3 waves were 'necessary' to have a 'good' game, but this game has continued to sell like crazy despite all this 'other stuff'. 8 waves, averaging 4 expansions each, about 20-25 bucks average, 60-100 bucks per wave to get one of everything. 4 huge ships, usually as much as a whole wave! 4 aces. 2 core sets.

So, what does it all mean? It means I've given them a ton of money for a great game!!!!

Even tho there's an occasional release of an obscure ship that will totally warp the meta (TLTs from an ugly k-wing, triple toilets) I still just keep plugging, buying only one of each release. So far it's given me enough variety and upgrades to make tons of lists, just not the unoriginal spam or swarm lists. Might eventually get enough TIEs for the traditional Swarm, but that's because it's special and the first Meta. I'm still here, and I like it. I guess the release schedule has been...ok, not too slow, not to fast, and I REALLY want Imp Vets!!!!

and someday....GUNBOAT! You know it will happen.

FFG should just keep going, they have done a great job making me buy stuff I never thought I would, like those ugly scum ships.

I need to find the graph that shows that in relation to earlier waves, the ship releases have slown down... Or at least been pretty much the same. Which is why I always find these posts humorous.

Too many unreleased ships. Keep them coming

You guys are funny. 3 ships a year? You think this game is gona be in production 10 years from now with new content coming out? Nope.

Let's get ships while we can

This is an interesting post to me.

First off, there are ONLY a lot of unreleased ships if you expect them to release LEGENDs ships, which I don't. I expect moving forward, that we are only going to see stuff from the movies and Rebels, and there isn't a whole heckuvalot more they can currently do yet with those. Ren's shuttle? Leia's Resistance Shuttle? Kanja Klub? Rebels has given us some options but not so much as to justify 4-6 new ships every 6 months for the rest of time. So I'm curious which ships you are expecting. Personally I'd love for X-Wing to introduce atmospheric battles and a ground format, with AT-ATs, Turrets, Speeders, Tanks, and CLOUD CARs! I don't want to have a whole separate game with those things. I want X-Wing to have those things. I want to attack an AT-AT with an X-Wing, JUST like you can do in the video games. I want to have AT-ATs inching forward towards a GR-75 trying to blow it up before it can take off! Wishful thinking I know!

But on to your second point. You think only 3 ships a year would kill this game? People who play Armada seem to think that only 2 ships a year is healthy. I completely disagree with them and as someone who absolutely LOVES Armada, I'm disgusted at the apparent slowdown for that game. But I think that with as mush stuff as X-Wing has now, it probably COULD stand to slow down a little, ONLY if that means free-ing up production assets for another game like Armada.

Give Armada a good year of heavy production and it'll get filled out almost to the point of being a solid game with build diversity. Give me 1 year like X-Wing had awhile back, where we got 2 Waves, 2 Aces packs, and 2 Huge Ships! It was something like twelve expansions within a 12 month timeframe! Give me something like that for Armada and it'll be to a point where we can then go back into slow mode.

The Armada audience isn't the X-wing audience.

Especially when you consider that individual ship prices is more there than it is with X-wing.

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How do you guys feel? If you only got one wave per year for X-Wing, and lets say, for the sake of argument, it was a smaller-than-normal wave.... (Say, 1 Rebel, 1 Imperial, and 1 Scum). Would you be ok with that if it meant they could catch other games up?

I am well aware that I am the exception but with the variety of miniatures out now I would be okay with only two or three new ones per year. It would give me a better chance to learn and play what I own and make my storage solutions last a bit longer.

I think X-Wing is moving way too fast. I started the game only weeks ago, and the sheer amount of stuff is absolutely daunting. Since I started, they announced four (!) new ships (Imperial Aces and Heroes of the Resistance). If the game moves too quickly, it will become extremely difficult for new players to get in. Armada is (yet) much more forgiving.

You don't have to buy every expansion. I'm skipping Imperial Veterans entirely as I don't play Imperials.

I think FFG has put some good thought into this over the last four years and have settled on a deliberate, well-paced system. Too slow and FFG doesn't make enough profit to keep putting more ships out and the line stops. Too fast and people quit buying because it is too much like other systems that want the cash grab. As it is, I am not necessarily one that will rush out and buy the latest, but I am systematically buying all of the ships in multiples. Considering I have 6 TIEs and 7 TIE/fos without a Gozanti yet, I am not afraid of purchasing for Epic. The current pace allows many of us to go back and pick up odds and ends ships we wouldn't if we were trying to stay up with more Waves. If it was too slow, I would likely find other games that I would put my entertainment budget into which might pull me away from X-Wing. For my budget, I find X-Wing in a very sweet spot... even if lately I have found myself buying a ton of acrylic (templates, tokens, asteroids, etc).

In the end, with as much as I enjoy this game, I need FFG to put out a release schedule that will take them past the ten year mark. I don't care what the schedule needs to be, but I need them to know what it is and work at it every month, just like I'm working at keeping them in business every month.