One thing has occured to me, and that's that Heroes of the Resistance effectively allows FFG to recost Outer Rim Smuggler. We can't see what they've priced Resistance Whatevertheotherwordis at, only that it's a PS3 generic. We also don't know if it has ORS style reduced stats or not.

What would you hope to see the new generic Falcon statted at and priced at?

I'm assuming they've made it have the same stats as the unique YT-1300 pilots, because the ORS was the only outlier there. Easily a Wave II mistake before the competitive scene had really solidified meaningfully.

And given the Contracted Scout running rampant presently....kiiinda hoping the new PS3 Falcon generic gets an EPT slot too.

I personally hope it won't have the unique stats: I'd love to see ORS pulled off right.

I personally hope it won't have the unique stats: I'd love to see ORS pulled off right.

I personally hope it won't have the unique stats: I'd love to see ORS pulled off right.

the scout is the ORS pulled off right

hell, so is the Warden Squadron pilot, albeit on a small base

I personally hope it won't have the unique stats: I'd love to see ORS pulled off right.

Since the YT-1300 can only take a single missile, a ship with the ORS statline can't really make up for the low primary damage like a YT-2400 or Jumpmaster can.

If it has the standard YT-1300 statline, I'd expect it to come in at around 39 points. May drop it an additional point if it has no EPT slot.

I'm sure the generic will have the same stats as everyone else. This is the resistance era falcon. It's not as if some guy would say, "well I'm just a generic pilot, so I better pull these custom guns and shields generators off and replace them with the stock versions."

I am REALLY hoping they make the generic work, and I think a lot is riding on it.

A lot of us are uncomfortable with the idea of having two Falcons. If the generic is a solid ship that can be run with one of the named pilots, then that will totally make it worth it.

The theme of a generic pilot in a YT-1300 feels extra odd in the TFA era. the YT-1300 is so outdated at that point the Falcon was barely cutting it. It's "Garbage."

So that any random person would be flying a non-falcon 1300 just seems unlikely, let a lone them also flying for the Resistance.

But that's all besides the point, and I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to rationalize it.

I'll be surprised if this new generic has 'nerfed' stats like the ORS did.

I'll be really annoyed if it has Falcon stats.

I'm sure the generic will have the same stats as everyone else. This is the resistance era falcon.

Remove PWT and cost it cheaply, make flying it carefully a thing again. Turret locked in position forward arc to represent it's aged design and dodgy unreliable turrets

I would be shocked if it wasn't directly comparable to the Contracted Scout. They have flat out said that the Wild Space Fringer and ORS are hugely over-costed.

I personally hope it won't have the unique stats: I'd love to see ORS pulled off right.

But, if they were looking to pull off the ORS right, they would have had a ORS in this pack, or, at least, a title for them or upgrade specified to them. No reason to make an entirely new card and make them basically totally useless.

Not everything is spoiled, so there is still hope, but pretty sure this is going to have the named pilot stats and look to follow the path the Contracted Scout has set.

I personally hope it won't have the unique stats: I'd love to see ORS pulled off right.

But, if they were looking to pull off the ORS right, they would have had a ORS in this pack, or, at least, a title for them or upgrade specified to them. No reason to make an entirely new card and make them basically totally useless.

Not everything is spoiled, so there is still hope, but pretty sure this is going to have the named pilot stats and look to follow the path the Contracted Scout has set.

uh...as is, it's literally impossible to make the existing ORS good

it's a garbage pilot, made at a time when FFG had very little idea what is was doing or how successful the game was going to be

making a strictly superior generic pilot would not be out of line, considering how competitively worthless the ORS is. It is dead weight and should be cast off as such

The theme of a generic pilot in a YT-1300 feels extra odd in the TFA era. the YT-1300 is so outdated at that point the Falcon was barely cutting it. It's "Garbage."

So that any random person would be flying a non-falcon 1300 just seems unlikely, let a lone them also flying for the Resistance.

But that's all besides the point, and I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to rationalize it.

I'll be surprised if this new generic has 'nerfed' stats like the ORS did.

Well, I mean, it did get stolen pretty frequently. Is it the ship itself or the name on the label?

I personally hope it won't have the unique stats: I'd love to see ORS pulled off right.

But, if they were looking to pull off the ORS right, they would have had a ORS in this pack, or, at least, a title for them or upgrade specified to them. No reason to make an entirely new card and make them basically totally useless.

Not everything is spoiled, so there is still hope, but pretty sure this is going to have the named pilot stats and look to follow the path the Contracted Scout has set.

uh...as is, it's literally impossible to make the existing ORS good

it's a garbage pilot, made at a time when FFG had very little idea what is was doing or how successful the game was going to be

making a strictly superior generic pilot would not be out of line, considering how competitively worthless the ORS is. It is dead weight and should be cast off as such

literally impossible? A ORS only title that had a -5 point cost and granted an additional modification wouldn't be enough to make it usable? If not that, how about -15 point cost? Obviously over doing it here, but there is no way it is literally impossible.

There are plenty of creative ways they could have made the ORS usable.

I personally hope it won't have the unique stats: I'd love to see ORS pulled off right.

But, if they were looking to pull off the ORS right, they would have had a ORS in this pack, or, at least, a title for them or upgrade specified to them. No reason to make an entirely new card and make them basically totally useless.

Not everything is spoiled, so there is still hope, but pretty sure this is going to have the named pilot stats and look to follow the path the Contracted Scout has set.

....The ORS was ALREADY totally useless.

It's way, way easier to try to make a good ORS than to print like, 3-4 different cards just to make an old, crappy generic good.

The card would literally have to say "Outer Rim Smuggler Only. Increase your pilot skill by 2, and add an EPT slot to your upgrade bar. Increase your hull value by 2 and your shield value by 1. 12 points."

ooooooooor you could just make a new pilot card with all of those upgrades already done and try to forget that the ORS ever happened.

Hopefully it has the same stats as Han/Lando/Chewy and an EPT. That is all it needs to at least be useable.

I personally hope it won't have the unique stats: I'd love to see ORS pulled off right.

But, if they were looking to pull off the ORS right, they would have had a ORS in this pack, or, at least, a title for them or upgrade specified to them. No reason to make an entirely new card and make them basically totally useless.

Not everything is spoiled, so there is still hope, but pretty sure this is going to have the named pilot stats and look to follow the path the Contracted Scout has set.

....The ORS was ALREADY totally useless.

It's way, way easier to try to make a good ORS than to print like, 3-4 different cards just to make an old, crappy generic good.

True, but that is a bit of a jab at players who have already purchased the original Falcon expansion, and it isn't a good look to have a totally useless pilot card in an expansions that will continue to see decent sales. If this new generic has the same stat line as the ORS, and is correctly costed, it will likely be costed lower than the ORS, meaning the ORS will be 100% useless unless someone for some reason prefers PS 1 over PS 3.

I'm not saying the ORS is fine, or that they should have released it here. I'm just saying if this generic has the same statline, it would have been a nice pull to veteran players to include an ORS as well with a fix, or maybe over cost this generic as well and include a fix in here for the generic YT-1300s all together. A bit silly, sure, but I just don't like the idea of a card becoming totally obsolete, which the ORS would if this generic has the same stat line and is correctly costed.

the ORS was a bit of a jab at players who purchased the original expansion well before heroes of the resistance was spoiled

it was crap on the onset, it will continue to be crap

besides, original Falcon comes with different variations of han/chewie and it comes with the incredibly useful VI + EU.

Yeah if they do nothing to fix the ORS other than give us a replacement for it... I'd be happy.

Besides, it makes no sense for them to include a title for a pilot that doesn't exist in the expansion pack.

These are all going to be resistance pilots and while the difference is slim it does exist.

the ORS was a bit of a jab at players who purchased the original expansion well before heroes of the resistance was spoiled

Maybe to competitive players who are aware enough of the surrounding game to know it is terribly overcosted, but not to the casual player who doesn't care to look into that stuff. If the new generic has the same stat line at PS 3 with a competitive squad price, those casual players will know that something in their collection is totally useless, and FFG didn't even care to give them a reason to use it.

Which, if FFG decides to do that, it's fine. I would just prefer they tried to find a way to make the ORS usable even in a casual scene, which is the only place you will see it currently. Now, you wont see it anywhere.

Now, you wont see it anywhere.

Well that depends on the cost of the new generic. If it's say 30 odd points, then the ORS still has some place even if it's only in casual lists.

FFG gives them plenty of reason to use the falcon contained in the MF expansion pack

just no reason to use a single, poorly designed card

True, but that is a bit of a jab at players who have already purchased the original Falcon expansion, and it isn't a good look to have a totally useless pilot card in an expansions that will continue to see decent sales.

I'm not sure I'd call it a jab. The Engine Upgrades that I bought the YT-1300 expansion for still work just fine.