Black Leader and Expert Handling

By Salted Diamond, in X-Wing

Does this combo work to remove 2 target locks, one from you and one from a friendly? Black leader triggers on a barrel roll action, and EH is "preform a free BR action". So do these 2 combo to remove 2 TL?

Yes.

Absolutely. Nothing at all stops this interaction. Good Catch!

You could even remove two TL's from Poe, if need be

Edited by Futant420

except BAT POE is still cooler :D

and fluff-wise it's him

Black Leader perfectly counters OL...its almost like they plan this stuff.

The combo stresses Poe though.

BB-8 Black One can do both without stress. He's like a little fairy sprinkling anti-TL pixie dust among his friends.

The combo stresses Poe though.

Doesn't have to be on Poe though, just has to be PS >7

BB-8 Black One can do both without stress. He's like a little fairy sprinkling anti-TL pixie dust among his friends.

Nope. Can't do BB8 and EH in the same round. E: maybe. I don't know what happens if you try to EH after you;'ve already BRed that round, and whether the rest of EH takes effect if the BR portion fails.

Edited by thespaceinvader

BB-8 Black One can do both without stress. He's like a little fairy sprinkling anti-TL pixie dust among his friends.

Afraid not. BB-8 doesn't add Barrel Roll to Poe's bar.

BB-8 Black One can do both without stress. He's like a little fairy sprinkling anti-TL pixie dust among his friends.

Afraid not. BB-8 doesn't add Barrel Roll to Poe's bar.

Bb8 performs a free barrel roll action on green maneuvers. This with the title will remove a target lock, and rarely would it be worth taking a subpar expert handling to trigger that title rather than something like predator to take advantage of new ps9 Poe.

What's with my lousy writing these days leading to misinterpretation? Smh

I wasn't implying BB-8 and EH together. I was saying BB-8 (instead of EH) allows a T-70 to both boost and barrel roll, allowing Black One to proc twice, which I thought was the gist of the thread.

... huh. I looked at it like 3 times before noticing that it works on boosts as well.

Yeah, BB8 PTL is clearly the combo they're going for.

BB-8 Black One can do both without stress. He's like a little fairy sprinkling anti-TL pixie dust among his friends.

Afraid not. BB-8 doesn't add Barrel Roll to Poe's bar.

Bb8 performs a free barrel roll action on green maneuvers. This with the title will remove a target lock, and rarely would it be worth taking a subpar expert handling to trigger that title rather than something like predator to take advantage of new ps9 Poe.

And that barrel roll doesn't count as Expert Handling, therefore BB-8 can't pull double TL removal.

Batpoooooeeeee!

Reveal a green

perform free BR action

remove TL

trigger PTL

boost

remove TL

perform green maneuver

remove stress

perform focus

???

YOU'RE AWESOME

Bat-Poe. (Poor bat-wedge, filthy T-70 has all the goodies and now the upstart poe also gets PS9)

BB-8 Black One can do both without stress. He's like a little fairy sprinkling anti-TL pixie dust among his friends.

Afraid not. BB-8 doesn't add Barrel Roll to Poe's bar.

Bb8 performs a free barrel roll action on green maneuvers. This with the title will remove a target lock, and rarely would it be worth taking a subpar expert handling to trigger that title rather than something like predator to take advantage of new ps9 Poe.

And that barrel roll doesn't count as Expert Handling, therefore BB-8 can't pull double TL removal.

BB8 PTL can. BR/Boost, each removing one TL.

E: or just regular BB8 poe. BB8 barrel roll, remove a TL, move, boost, remove at TL.

Edited by thespaceinvader

add in a VI wes and you are shutting down some action economy.

Really love this but I'm still gonna be the a hole running regen Poe, just with Lone Wolf and Black One now.

I read, Black Leather and Expert Handling.

Wonder what Freud would say?

I read, Black Leather and Expert Handling.

Wonder what Freud would say?

I'm still taken aback by the fact they put "The Black One" over Finn's crew card.

Couple of questions:

1) Do things like Adaptability and Veteran Instincts count before you apply Black One? Can you boost a pilots PS with those cards and then equip the title?

2) Black One does work on yourself as well, right? So you can use it remove a TL on your own ship, not just a different friendly at R1?

Don't think of list building as having an order to it.

The list is legal if, once you are done selecting pilots and upgrades, all of the requirements for a legal list are met.

So yes, PS increasing abilities "work" for black one.

Edited by WickedGrey

Worth noting, adaptability is blank until setup so that doesn't work with the title.

BB-8 Black One can do both without stress. He's like a little fairy sprinkling anti-TL pixie dust among his friends.

Afraid not. BB-8 doesn't add Barrel Roll to Poe's bar.

Bb8 performs a free barrel roll action on green maneuvers. This with the title will remove a target lock, and rarely would it be worth taking a subpar expert handling to trigger that title rather than something like predator to take advantage of new ps9 Poe.

And that barrel roll doesn't count as Expert Handling, therefore BB-8 can't pull double TL removal.

Also Black One doesn't stipulate that it has to be another friendly so it can be you for one/both.

Couple of questions:

1) Do things like Adaptability and Veteran Instincts count before you apply Black One? Can you boost a pilots PS with those cards and then equip the title?

2) Black One does work on yourself as well, right? So you can use it remove a TL on your own ship, not just a different friendly at R1?

VI does, Adaptability doesn't. VI is set during list building, so you would have the PS increase to then qualify for the title. THere's precedent for this.

Adaptability doesn't because the PS change only happens during setup, when you actually place the ship on the table.