True true. It probably got butt loads of people into the game. Still though, the X-Wing is the game's namesake. Gotta count for something. Hopefully.

I do wonder what else they have to go with the Heroes expansion that may have something to do with the T-65. Could be nothing. Or could be something. As for the Rogue thing, that'd be coolio.

It does count for something. There are X-wing(T-70)fixes in this set. Maybe the real fix has always been the T-70...you know, the new core set namesake ship.

if this was the case (it's not), it's a pretty crappy fix

exactly as many T-70 pilots are viable as the T-65 (PS 8 Poe and Biggs respectively)

That's why this set is a fix to that fix

^ that's Rogue Flight. Not Rogue Squadron.

It's Rogue Squadron.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Rogue_Squadron

It's called Rogue Group in the movie, but Rogue Squadron is a recognized moniker. Also look at the Legends tab of the page, and you'll note that it is the legendary X-wing squadron.

Whether you choose to accept it or not, Rogue Squadron is canon, and appears in ESB.

Wookipedia doesn't determine what is canon. It's gotten many of the ship sizes wrong.

Wookipedia doesn't determine what is canon. It's gotten many of the ship sizes wrong.

However Wookieepedia Catalogues what is canon. Rogue Squadron appears in ESB. It's canon.

EDIT:

http://www.starwars.com/databank/zev-senesca

From the owners of Star Wars:

Zev was a rebel pilot assigned to Echo Base on the frozen planet Hoth. Flying a snowspeeder as Rogue Two, he located Han Solo and Luke Skywalker after the two went missing during a perilous blizzard. Zev then flew with Rogue Squadron in the Battle of Hoth, but blasts from an AT-AT walker ripped through his snowspeeder, killing him.

End of discussion. Even Starwars.com recognizes Rogue Squadron as an official name. Rogue Squadron is canon.

Wookipedia doesn't determine what is canon. It's gotten many of the ship sizes wrong.

However Wookieepedia Catalogues what is canon. Rogue Squadron appears in ESB. It's canon.

At no point they are called "Rogue Squadron", and they fly T-47s.

In the battle of Ednor you have the same people as "Red Squadron".

Wookipedia doesn't determine what is canon. It's gotten many of the ship sizes wrong.

However Wookieepedia Catalogues what is canon. Rogue Squadron appears in ESB. It's canon.

At no point they are called "Rogue Squadron", and they fly T-47s.

In the battle of Ednor you have the same people as "Red Squadron".

Starwars.com calls them Rogue Squadron several times. Even if they aren't called Rogue Squadron in the movies, the point is the Rogues still exist and are canon. There's literally hundreds of explanations you could come up with for why Wedge was in Red Squadron in RotJ. The point is that at atleast one point in time, they existed.

http://www.starwars.com/databank/wedge-antilles

A talented young rebel pilot from Corellia, Wedge Antilles survived the attack on the first Death Star to become a respected veteran of Rogue Squadron. He piloted a snowspeeder in the defense of Echo Base on Hoth, and led Red Squadron in the rebel attack on the second Death Star above Endor.

http://www.starwars.com/databank/derek-hobbie-klivian

Born on Ralltiir, Derek “Hobbie” Klivian defected to the Rebel Alliance with Biggs Darklighter and flew with Rogue Squadron during the Battle of Hoth. He served as Luke Skywalker’s wingman during the defense of Echo Base, ejecting from his snowspeeder just before the craft rammed an AT-AT.

Literally copy pasting from starwars.com, THE people in charge of SW Canon. Their canon articles make several references to Rogue Squadron.

Rogue One is out in December. Expect T-65s to get plastered with love around that time, to tie in with this film about, well, T-65s. So youhave about a 7 month wait for T65s to be reborn - not long on the X-wing time scale...

i don't think Rogue One has anything to do with T-65's i'd be surprised if there are any space ship battles in the film. It was described as a ground war, WW2 film set in the Star Wars universe.

"Rogue" has nothing to do with Rogue Squadron, which isn't canon.

Did someone have an argument about Canon?

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Of all the complaints leveled against Heroes, I must admit that this is the best one. It's highly irrelevant to gameplay overall, at least compared to the impact an E-Wing/X-Wing upgrade or Scyk/Starviper/Kirhaxz upgrade could have brought. However, I am still interested in it.

Yeah, interceptors were totally fixed, that's why you see them all over the place!

TIE Advanced are eating up the meta since their title and special system upgrade fixed em right up!

Here's hoping Defenders actually rock, since their 'fix' was multiple cards that allow diversity in their lists.

Yeah Vader and fel see no play at all you're right.

Rebel Veterans already happened. It was a kick butt book series called Xwing: Rogue Squadron.
Did we Imps get that?! Noooooo.

Seriously though, the only looseres in this expansion is SnV who havent even gotten a huge yet. Their last batch of ships were basically vehicals for the Tractor Beam and not much else.
Look at it like this, Rebels STILL have the market on the PWT ships in standard.

Yup this was not the expansion rebels wanted to see.

This is not the expansion you're looking for.

Move along.

Great, now I have to keep waiting for Rebel Veterans AND Villians of the First Order... And Scum Aces, Scum Veterans, Scum of the Scum, and 2 Scum epic ships...

Guess what. Bwings are overcosted now. . TLT Ys are basically always better. And scouts are completely under costed and literally always better. Except for that one guy who decided to win a regionals with xxxxz

TLT Y's were dead the moment someone thought up the contracted scout list. Even Papa Palppy seems to be enjoying blasting them to bits with his aces these days. That turret is nice, but only dealing two damage against ships with either lots of health or ships with high agility, means it's not going to do anything strong. The Y's are in the same boat as the B's these days sadly, collecting dust on the shelf.

Rebel Veterans already happened. It was a kick butt book series called Xwing: Rogue Squadron.

Did we Imps get that?! Noooooo.

Seriously though, the only looseres in this expansion is SnV who havent even gotten a huge yet. Their last batch of ships were basically vehicals for the Tractor Beam and not much else.

Look at it like this, Rebels STILL have the market on the PWT ships in standard.

Rebel Veterans has not happened yet, I don't know how you think a book series from the 90's qualifies as an expansion.

Imperial Veterans box will be released before Rebel Veterans, so yes, you actually did get something.

Illicit upgrades in HOTR will Beniefit scum ships as well to some degree, yet they do have ships that need help (syck and starviper come to mind first). I'm not saying Scum doesn't need something for Epic at some point, but they did just get Dengar and Zuckcuss, both ships are still relatively new and people are working on how to use them in their list effectively. Scum is actually a playable faction now (maybe it was after Wave 7, but Wave 8 gave it a really nice boost.).

How is having the market on PWT's a bad thing? Empire has the market on Force users, yet no rebel players complaining (looking a palpatine here.)

And this required it's own thread why ?

For the same reason most of these threads do. Just because...

I guess I just don't understand all the negative feelings toward the OP because he made a thread about a ship he truly enjoys, and wants to see a fix for it. So what if he's the umpteenth person to do so. It's a public forum and it's certainly his - or anyone else's, for that matter - prerogative to post or start a thread about anything he/she wants, within forum regulations of course. There is certainly nothing saying we (the readers or perusers of such threads) have to post or even read them.

I mean, it's not like this same thing hasn't happened with other ships in our beloved universe, in these very threads

Wookipedia doesn't determine what is canon. It's gotten many of the ship sizes wrong.

Wookiepedia has the awkward task of tracking the old EU and the new Disney Cannon. Although it might be difficult it is not impossible. Many stories have been adapted with plenty of changes that break continuity with the previous form of media. The Lord of the Rings movies had many changes that were different from the original books (like who carried Frodo to Rivendale) and Game of Thrones had several differences if you look at the ASOFAI videos and watch some of the YouTube clips (like the name of the mercenaries that followed Tygeron).

Wookiepedia just has to track the old lore (which it pretty much have done) and then add the new lore in front of it keeping both stories in preservation.