Both shippes were expeced. Unfortunately I would prefer Rebel Veterans instead of Resistence heroes. Why New Poe +2points for +1PS is vaste. Predator or PTL Poe PS9 everywhere.

And there are at least to ships not worth of competetive - T65 + E-Wing both in need of upgrade...

Eh, I'll be interested to see what they do with Rebel Veterans - but it's really new ships I'm keen on. Imperial Gunboat, YES PLEASE, but...also what they are going to resurrect from the EU for Scum.

I'd really like to know which direction they are going for the (inevitable) Scum 'huge' ship, for example.

Well I must admit that i am pretty disappointed too. For multiple reasons:

- First, it's NOT a T-65+E-Wing/Y-Wing expansion. This makes said Rebel Veterans expansion that we really needed more unlikely and/or more distant in the future.

- All the spoiled cards seem rather weak competitively. This doesn't mean that there will not be a few decent ones that have not been spoiled. But this does not seem to be a "fix" expansion, just more options.

- PS9 Poe IS rather unimaginative with no further changes. I am also not sure if this is even worth the two points more on a T-70. If he struggles at PS8 vs some builds he will most likely also struggle at PS9.

- it's just not the hype that other expansions brought. Imperial Veterans looked powerful and useful on first sight, this here clearly does not look that way.

I want my Battle of Yavin pack. Give me my Red 5 Gold 5 and Black 3 unique titles for the X-wing, Y-wing, and TIE Fighter!

I can't believe FFG would do this to us...

Introducing the most recent rendition of the most iconic ship in the Star Wars universe while bringing into the game the main characters of the new trilogy and updating the new hero squadron names....

Ugh.... How dare you FFG!

I'm going down to my moms basement to go whine to the Internet where my opinion is respected!

"MOOOOOOM!!! Bring me hot pockets and Cheetos!!!"

Well, I'm an Imperial player who's slowly building up my Rebel and Scum collection, one expansion at a time.

I won't be getting this. I don't fly Rebels, owning two millenium falcons and three T-70s (even if one is Poes Orange and Black one - the colours of my Rugby team incidentally) is just unnecessary.

That said, I think it's a smart bit of marketing by FFG - There will be plenty of people looking to get into the game off the back of the new films, and this gives them a really obvious entrypoint, they buy a core set, a TFA falcon/poe, and of course they're going to need some extra TIE fighters to make up a 100 point Rebel v Imperial game.

So yeah, this expansion personally doesn't affect me, but I can see it's overall impact on the game being a positive.

Ok, I think I get it. If Lando had been more careful flying the Falcon through the second Death Star we wouldn't be arguing about this now.

and throw up third finger by breaking "two PS9 per faction" quota

This is the funniest.

I'm going on holiday tomorrow morning and having issues concentrating at work, reading people really stretching to find reasons why FFG are the worst is actually making my day more bearable. You guys are the best.

really curious as to what

1. trick____
2. snap(shot)?
3. Pr...thr(usters)?
4. M...unique astromech
5. and Hot...Co...
6. Rey
7. Finn

do, not even counting the effective 5 unspoiled pilots

there is A LOT in here, the article is just horrible because it spoils very little of interest

At first glance, I thought the Astromech was Mynock .. Wedge's astro from the X-Wing book series.

Personally; I'm not surprised they did this. I'm just a little surprised it's now. I was expecting something like this a little closer to episode 8 and this interim to get out some of the products Mr Davey has been hinting at in podcast interviews the past year. For example the "aces treatment" of the M3A, Starviper and E-Wing or the scum huge ship. I'm a liitle disappointed we're seeing this before other ships that could really do with a competitive boost but whatever. It's only a game of plastic spaceships and I'm sure I'll be buying one of these...

Why the OP thought there was a thread in this when there is already a thread on the expansion is beyond me.

I have a solution though. This should be called Heroes of the b**ching and moaning expansion thread.

And then the other thread can be the constructive one with news and information.

So I implore all of you with constructive stuff to post in the other thread, and all of you who want to sook and cry post in this thread.

Way to flop for the Mouse FFG. And also pandering to the fans. .

I'm struggling to identify what I'm supposed to be indignant about.

They produced a box full of what you acknowledge is cool content, which players will want to buy and which makes the licensor happy. That sounds to me like a win for everybody, but you're mad because... I don't know. Is it because they put together "just" seven new pilots?

Jiminy frickin' Cricket.

This thread title actually makes me want a Rocinante in X-Wing. Donager might be a bit of an ask, though.

What would Alex Kamal's PS be? And his ability?

I can see how veterans can view this as a wasted expansion, but as someone who's thinking about starting with this game, I'm actually pretty excited about this box. With The Force Awakens Core Set, I feel it's given new players (such as myself) the perfect opportunity to join the fray. I'm actually thinking about just sticking with the TFA products, and now it has the Millenium Falcon AND Poe's X-Wing? I think that's a great deal.

So yeah, for new players this is anything but a wasted expansion... but I can understand the majority of current players being a little disappointed. But hey, good thing you're not required to buy this expansion to enjoy the game, right.

(Think of it as money saved for the next expansion.)

I was looking forward to the rebel veterans. Now I am a bit asthonished that they go another way than the imperial ones. I assumed the rebels would also get some buffs to ships that are not played too much so they will be seen on board more often. In case of the rebels a buff of the E-wing would have been really nice since I haven't seen one around (besides Corran Horn).

The ships included are ok and the upgrade cards look ok too but I am wondering a bit what to do with a third Millenium Falcon^^

Of course this box causes a little uproar as all "disney"-products but for me its ok somehow it just caught me on the wrong foot... I was hoping so much for the E-wing to get some improvements that I almost became sure this was the thing to come. I am just a little bit disappointed that they put two ships in the box that are played very much already :/

Whatever...I buy any pack of X-wing since I love the game and don't just play tournaments or classic 100pt games. So any ship will be on the board some day proving its potential. Furthermore I am really looking forward to the Scum-pack whatever it might contain. Just hopin there won't be a big (or even epic)-ship included. They are cool too but I just enjoy swarms/small fighters more.

I can see how veterans can view this as a wasted expansion, but as someone who's thinking about starting with this game, I'm actually pretty excited about this box. With The Force Awakens Core Set, I feel it's given new players (such as myself) the perfect opportunity to join the fray. I'm actually thinking about just sticking with the TFA products, and now it has the Millenium Falcon AND Poe's X-Wing? I think that's a great deal.

So yeah, for new players this is anything but a wasted expansion... but I can understand the majority of current players being a little disappointed. But hey, good thing you're not required to buy this expansion to enjoy the game, right.

(Think of it as money saved for the next expansion.)

I'm pretty sure the majority is not disappointed. But disappointed people are more vocal.

I just... if this is what Rebels get as an equivalent of the glorious Imperial Veterans...

I mean yeah, there is Rouge One, but would FFG release two expansions for one fraction one right after another, expecially considering that Scum didn't get their Aces pack as of yet?

Put me in the very excited camp for this expansion. While I play competitively I also play with my kids for whom the only star wars movie they have seen in theater is TFA. That's their Star Wars love. You should have seen how excited they were when I showed them this announcement. Anything with Rey is a big hit In our house.

I think you have to view anything released for the new films as being outside of the regular release schedule and totally separate things that don't necessarily gel with the symmetry of releases.

I guess it's true that Scum players will complain if Rebels get 2 boxes of stuff in a row. Probably the same people complaining that this expansion is useless, so go figure or whatever?

I think people need to realise that this is not wave 8, it's not rebel vets, it's a film tie in product to keep a different group of people happy, but has clearly been made to also include goodies for the competitive players too.

Also I imagine a lot of the complaints are from people that don't seem to understand that TFA is an excellent film that deserves to be called Star Wars.

At least here on the forum a lot of people seem to be disappointed. It's more of a casual buy because i don't see this expansion doing anything for game balance and meta.

It's of course cool stuff, but a lot of people here are fairly competitive, and a lot of them including me expected other releases before this here.

And i especially don't blame the Rebel players that basically had to trash all their competitive lists and replace them due to U-Boats recently. Empire for instance didnt have to change much. Just take some different aces with their Palpmobile and only if they want to!

And then Empire gets Imp Veterans that have really highly competitive stuff in them on top of their already gigantic roster of aces.

While Rebels still have no E-Wing or X-Wing fix in sight and get an expansion that will probably not help them at all competitively. (Edit: I don't care if it's Resistance, it's the same **** faction Mkay?)

Also on this subject, Poe +2 points for PS9? I don't see that seeing any play. He can have PS9 for free or PS10 for 1 point if he gives up his EPT slot. Which is probably a much better option than paying 2 points and another 3 for Push or Predator. Probably not worth it!

The sadness of this is an utterly wasted PS9 slot (for which there was already the same PS8 guy too), useless much like Wedge at the moment. And if i project that into the future i can see that the other factions will get a third PS9 ace too. Another useless one for Scum like Talonbane and another arc-dodging menace for Empire! I love To play my Soonts and Vader don't get me wrong, but i would really wish for the other factions to have useful PS9 pilots too. At the moment Dengar and Han are decent hut far from dominant, Wedge and Talonbane are crap and Poe will probably go on and be flown at PS8!

I guess this means we'll be getting another imperial ace before long. Which is pretty funny with how many we've picked up recently.

Wonder if it means we'll see a PS9 starviper pilot now?

PS9 Guri or Talonbane Mc'Ownstarviper Cobra?

I think this expansion is awesome. I do love the Falcon so I'm biased I guess. Calling it "Heroes of the Resistance", Poe had to be in there, c'mon! Also, can anybody really say they're surprised by this? We all knew it was coming, right? And I'm very glad it is. Like others have mentioned, we are getting a lot of cool goodies with this one. Several new T-70 X-Wing pilots, crew, various upgrades and new abilities for both Han and Chewie... and of course, Rey. Can't wait for this! And yeah, again like others have mentioned already, no need to get more than 1 copy of this really so this is a very good deal overall.

They could of revealed wave 9 so everyone got something instead only rebels got something on star wars day that's another reason this sits ill.

This being shown at gencon would not of been such a slap in the face.

This being shown at gencon would not of been such a slap in the face.

If you want a slap in the face from FFG, go hang out in the Armada forums...

At least here on the forum a lot of people seem to be disappointed. It's more of a casual buy because i don't see this expansion doing anything for game balance and meta.

It's of course cool stuff, but a lot of people here are fairly competitive, and a lot of them including me expected other releases before this here.

And i especially don't blame the Rebel players that basically had to trash all their competitive lists and replace them due to U-Boats recently. Empire for instance didnt have to change much. Just take some different aces with their Palpmobile and only if they want to!

And then Empire gets Imp Veterans that have really highly competitive stuff in them on top of their already gigantic roster of aces.

While Rebels still have no E-Wing or X-Wing fix in sight and get an expansion that will probably not help them at all competitively. (Edit: I don't care if it's Resistance, it's the same **** faction Mkay?)

Also on this subject, Poe +2 points for PS9? I don't see that seeing any play. He can have PS9 for free or PS10 for 1 point if he gives up his EPT slot. Which is probably a much better option than paying 2 points and another 3 for Push or Predator. Probably not worth it!

The sadness of this is an utterly wasted PS9 slot (for which there was already the same PS8 guy too), useless much like Wedge at the moment. And if i project that into the future i can see that the other factions will get a third PS9 ace too. Another useless one for Scum like Talonbane and another arc-dodging menace for Empire! I love To play my Soonts and Vader don't get me wrong, but i would really wish for the other factions to have useful PS9 pilots too. At the moment Dengar and Han are decent hut far from dominant, Wedge and Talonbane are crap and Poe will probably go on and be flown at PS8!

How are 3-slooping falcons not competitive? Black One title? Rey's ability? You are probably dismissing the ships entirely because of U-boats, I don't think you hould.

How do you get 3-slooping falcons?

You can only have one Falcon title.